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Post by Mattsby on Sept 5, 2018 1:22:59 GMT
August 30th during a Q&A Michael Radford (long involved, for more than a decade, as writer-director) said there's financing. I've told pacinoyes this before: I've always been wrestling with the potential perfection of Lear being Pacino's last project against my eagerness to see him do it already! And it looks like it could very well be gearing up - even though we've been teased so many times before this seems legit. Radford is usually kinda tepid on the matter - "just waiting on Al, who knows" that sorta thing. But this is def a development. For fun: who to cast? I'm thinking Depp for Fool, other roles: Rylance, Jeremy Irons, Danny Huston, Jack Huston, Chastain......
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Post by stephen on Sept 5, 2018 1:28:58 GMT
Hmmm… Rylance as the Fool, Olivia Colman as Goneril, Stephen Dillane as Gloucester, Jodie Whittaker as Regan, Bebe Cave as Cordelia…
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 1:39:50 GMT
Paltrow and Winslet as Regan and Goneril; Robbie as Cordelia?
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 5, 2018 2:00:10 GMT
Hopefully (finally) true - and if he does it that would then be 3 Shakespearean films and a separate classical piece (Salome) on his filmed resume which is far more than every major American film actor for that sort of thing.
Pacino is in Paris for live shows in October, I wonder if he's shooting on location perhaps?
I would die happily if Rylance was The Fool - that would almost be too perfect (although Depp would be something too). Surprised there's not more chatter around his buddy Chastain (his discovery, Salome herself) as one of the daughters, that would very much work I'd think.
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 24, 2018 18:57:51 GMT
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Post by Mattsby on Nov 24, 2018 21:08:12 GMT
I’ll take any update! Radford’s comments are curious but also just a little concerning lol. And the year wait - I’d imagine necessary for scheduling with the cast. Some of the names rumored about ( Depp, Chastain) prob have commitments.
Just a thought, wondering if Andrea Iervolino is involved. He coproduced Merchant of Venice, The Humbling, Radford’s latest movie, and currently Waiting for the Barbarians with, cough cough, Depp and Rylance !!
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Post by LaraQ on Nov 24, 2018 21:11:43 GMT
Isn't Chastain a bit too old for Cordelia now?.She's 41,she might be a better fit for one of the other 2 Sisters.
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 24, 2018 21:37:43 GMT
Pacino's movies with unknown director always turned mediocre, I'm not anticipating this too much. He's an Oscar nominated director ray - come on get your head in the game!!!
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 24, 2018 21:42:42 GMT
Isn't Chastain a bit too old for Cordelia now?.She's 41,she might be a better fit for one of the other 2 Sisters. Yeah, I don't think she'll actually be in it but we'll see - I think it was more of a wish thing with her - she'd fit Goneril more definitely. You have to be really careful with how you cast all these parts anyway - Pacino is not an ideal actor to play Lear, surround him with great Shakespearean actors (Rylance etc) he gets his thunder stolen maybe, surround him with lesser actors and he dominates wrongfully or it looks amateurish. It becomes very much finding people who mesh with him.......
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Post by Mattsby on Feb 9, 2019 19:47:20 GMT
An interview with Pacino's close friend and producing partner Barry Navidi from Jan 27; mabigmovies.com/2019/01/27/interview-with-filmmaker-barry-navidi/Not a great interviewer, but Navidi says John Huston and Brando were his mentors, and mentions Lear is in the "near future" as well as Modigliani which I suppose is still in the works for them, a project Pacino has been involved with one way or another since the '80s!
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 9, 2019 20:12:17 GMT
Yeah I'm not sure but it seems to me that the IMDB page includes a whole production team maybe it was always that way but I don't remember it. Navidi needs to update his website but I can't imagine that Isaac will play Modigliani since he just played Gaugin, but you never know. I really think Lear has to come from Al's mouth but I suppose he ain't talking until those OUATIH interviews (see how optimistic I'm being, I'm saying he has a big enough part to actually do interviews for that film
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Post by Mattsby on May 23, 2019 16:57:25 GMT
Well..... doesn't look like it'll film this year..... Deadline - "Oscar-nominated English filmmaker Michael Radford has signed on to direct Sweethearts, an indie biopic set 1930s Hollywood about the love affair between movie stars and frequent on-screen co-stars Jeanette MacDonald and Nelson Eddy. Production is scheduled to begin later this year in Spain." Pacino taking The Hunt sort of signaled this. If they have the financing, why the holdup? Could be scheduling with the cast, promotion for Irishman, or Pacino just wants to wait a little longer...
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Post by pacinoyes on May 23, 2019 17:06:40 GMT
Depressed, grrrrrrrrrr Axis Sally, gag, a small role in OUATIH (which is fine but .....), no Irishman trailer, no Lear announcement........wtf grandpa, get your head in the game........
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Post by Mattsby on May 23, 2019 17:15:33 GMT
More thorough casting ideas.... And I know this bunch is unrealistic or a little off but....
Lear: Pacino The Fool: Rylance Kent: Depp Gloucester: Jeffrey Wright Edgar: Andre Holland Edmund: Jack Huston Goneril: Chastain Regan: Claire Foy Cordelia: Rooney Mara Albany: Oscar Isaac Cornwall: Danny Huston France: Romain Duris Oswald: Sacha Baron Cohen
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Post by TerryMontana on May 23, 2019 18:11:39 GMT
Can't see this happening, unfortunately...
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Post by pupdurcs on May 23, 2019 20:16:32 GMT
It'll be a massive shame if Pacino doesn't get the chance to do Lear. His seriousness and dedication to classical theatre deserves it, even if he doesn't get to do it in the theatre. And I think playing Lear on stage may have passed him by. His last Broadway appearences in Mamet's China Doll was something of a farce, and it was constantly noted that Pacino needed an earpiece and multiple teleprompters to remember lines. That is understandable at his age on stage as memory starts to become a real issue, but if he can't get away with it for a Mamet, he won't get away with it for Lear. Film, where you can forget and screw up lines and still have a dozen chances to fix things seeme his best bet now.
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Post by pacinoyes on May 23, 2019 20:21:35 GMT
China Doll was something more than that though - I know Mattsby saw it and Viced saw it (and I did as well) and back in the old IMDB days a lot more had also to some acclaim actually - he definitely used the earpiece in act 1 and act 1 was a poorly written mess but act 2 was really mostly great if you stuck with it and a lot of people raved him in that - that's how Tarantino became a fan actually. You had to stay with it. I'd really love to see him do China Doll on TV - there's genius in that play.......act 2 anyway.
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Post by pupdurcs on May 23, 2019 20:25:42 GMT
I can't speak for individuals or fans who watched China Doll, but I can speak for the general media/theatre world coverage surrounding it and Pacino's performance, and it was pretty rough. He got hammered. Felt bad for the guy, and suspected it might be his last time on Broadway.
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Post by pacinoyes on May 23, 2019 20:33:03 GMT
He got some good reviews in the media though and more as it went on however ......the real problem with that play is Mamet wouldn't change act 1.
There's a degree of professionalism to that and he was working hard in that piece - I think actors would like the piece more the general media/theatre crowd who would have felt burned by that first act.........I think back to it mostly fondly because of act 2 and of course it lead to OUATIH ........as often is the case with him, the success or failure of that piece is more complex than it might first appear etc.
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Post by Viced on May 23, 2019 22:06:06 GMT
His last Broadway appearences in Mamet's China Doll was something of a farce, and it was constantly noted that Pacino needed an earpiece and multiple teleprompters to remember lines. China Doll was FAR from a farce. And if anything, Mamet is the one who should take all the blame for its so-so reception. He wrote a very uneven play about a rich guy talking on the phone for 90 minutes... and the main saving grace was Pacino's herculean performance. He had moments there that were so powerful they literally shook me to my core. I haven't seen that many plays, but Pacino in China Doll was the only time I've ever experienced anything that visceral. And I'm pretty sure actors half his age would have needed an earpiece to remember all that shit. Also, the totally genuine standing ovation and rapturous applause when it was over really didn't have the feeling of a farce to me.
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Post by pupdurcs on May 23, 2019 22:21:25 GMT
His last Broadway appearences in Mamet's China Doll was something of a farce, and it was constantly noted that Pacino needed an earpiece and multiple teleprompters to remember lines. China Doll was FAR from a farce. And if anything, Mamet is the one who should take all the blame for its so-so reception. He wrote a very uneven play about a rich guy talking on the phone for 90 minutes... and the main saving grace was Pacino's herculean performance. He had moments there that were so powerful they literally shook me to my core. I haven't seen that many plays, but Pacino in China Doll was the only time I've ever experienced anything that visceral. And I'm pretty sure actors half his age would have needed an earpiece to remember all that shit. Also, the totally genuine standing ovation and rapturous applause when it was over really didn't have the feeling of a farce to me. As I said, I can't go by individual reactions from fans who watched it. I'm happy it was a joyous experience for you and that's your truth, but I can only go by the general reviews, critics and media/ theatre world fallout from the play and Pacino's performance, which being fair, presented the whole thing as being a farce. I'm not going to post article links, but I've done google searches to refresh my memory, and it was as bad as I remembered. Maybe worse. Pacino was 75 years old. It's an accomplishment for him to be able to get back on stage. I don't hold the earpiece/teleprompter thing against him so much due to his age, but it became a thing in a negative sense. The performance was a disaster for Pacino perception wise, but he's a theatre legend already so it doesn't matter. And it's great that you enjoyed it despite the negativity.
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Post by pacinoyes on May 23, 2019 22:34:42 GMT
His last Broadway appearences in Mamet's China Doll was something of a farce, and it was constantly noted that Pacino needed an earpiece and multiple teleprompters to remember lines. China Doll was FAR from a farce. And if anything, Mamet is the one who should take all the blame for its so-so reception. He wrote a very uneven play about a rich guy talking on the phone for 90 minutes... and the main saving grace was Pacino's herculean performance. He had moments there that were so powerful they literally shook me to my core. I haven't seen that many plays, but Pacino in China Doll was the only time I've ever experienced anything that visceral. And I'm pretty sure actors half his age would have needed an earpiece to remember all that shit. Also, the totally genuine standing ovation and rapturous applause when it was over really didn't have the feeling of a farce to me. That sums it up really well. I say this all the time but it goes back to what the critic Clive Barnes once said about him - "you can't always judge his acting because he doesn't act in the normal way of acting" - like in 1979 he had to recover from his Richard III, but a few years later it was a career highlight, in 1980 he had to recover from Cruising, but a few years later that film and performance was seen much differently, in 1983 he had to recover from Scarface, but then......... well you get the idea......it's happens all the time with him, a constant pattern of success/failure/reassessment/re-evaluation/new judgment......it doesn't make him better than other actors but it makes him a different type. Most actors maybe have like 1 performance like that maybe........... but he has a ton like that.
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Post by pupdurcs on May 23, 2019 22:38:59 GMT
To be honest, I'm not too interested in harping on about China Doll either, and didn't mean to conduct a post-mortem on that production by bringing it up . The only reason I mentioned it is because it seems to confirm why Pacino isn't just doing Lear on stage. Film finance is tricky (as this product ion is finding out), but someone like Pacino could probably get a Lear stage production put together within a few months. The memory issues from his last stage production seem to be the most logical reason why that won't happen.
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Post by pacinoyes on May 23, 2019 22:51:06 GMT
To be honest, I'm not too interested in harping on about China Doll either, and didn't mean to conduct a post-mortem on that production by bringing it up . The only reason I mentioned it is because it seems to confirm why Pacino isn't just doing Lear on stage. Film finance is tricky (as this product ion is finding out), but someone like Pacino could probably get a Lear stage production put together within a few months. The memory issues from his last stage production seem to be the most logical reason why that won't happen. Maybe, I think actually it's possible he won't go back on the stage again - he literally may have 5-7 roles left total - I mean maybe not but you never know now. He even went back and did a workshop of a new play in LA after China Doll but I think if he returns to Broadway he will do something without the heavy lifting like China Doll and Lear have. I think when he saw Hopkins film Lear he thought - well, ok, I can do that then and there's never been an American Lear film etc. On the other hand, he's been discussing this film over 10 years - and he never played Hamlet or Hickey - the roles he read in his Actors Studio audition for Godsakes - the stakes are high with him playing Lear now.........if he doesn't do it, it's a big disappointment and at the age he's at now, actors start to pass away (Finney, Lemmon, Newman etc.).......
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 23, 2019 21:44:52 GMT
No financing...
That can cause a lot of trouble. It may take a while till they finally manage to gather the money and start shooying.
I mean, if it ever happens.
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