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Post by idioticbunny on Jul 9, 2018 19:50:01 GMT
Finally getting around to seeing the Best Picture line-up and I'm genuinely shocked at how much I don't hate it. It has four of my five favorite films of the year in it (all that's missing is Prisoners) and I can live with Gravity's inclusion. Just shocked that Place Beyond the Pines and Short Term 12 made the cut. That's absolutely beautiful.
I also can't figure out why anyone would hate Short Term 12. It's a totally harmless film. Maybe it doesn't work as well for some, but it worked gangbusters on me. I nearly cried about twenty minutes into the film and it hardly ever let up. Full of so much emotion, do you know how difficult that is to capture in a film without being manipulative? Damn hard. And it did it well.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jul 9, 2018 20:18:07 GMT
Finally getting around to seeing the Best Picture line-up and I'm genuinely shocked at how much I don't hate it. It has four of my five favorite films of the year in it (all that's missing is Prisoners) and I can live with Gravity's inclusion. Just shocked that Place Beyond the Pines and Short Term 12 made the cut. That's absolutely beautiful. I also can't figure out why anyone would hate Short Term 12. It's a totally harmless film. Maybe it doesn't work as well for some, but it worked gangbusters on me. I nearly cried about twenty minutes into the film and it hardly ever let up. Full of so much emotion, do you know how difficult that is to capture in a film without being manipulative? Damn hard. And it did it well. I'd argue that the movie was VERY manipulative, and cheap about it. I just didn't care.
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Post by idioticbunny on Jul 9, 2018 20:38:58 GMT
Finally getting around to seeing the Best Picture line-up and I'm genuinely shocked at how much I don't hate it. It has four of my five favorite films of the year in it (all that's missing is Prisoners) and I can live with Gravity's inclusion. Just shocked that Place Beyond the Pines and Short Term 12 made the cut. That's absolutely beautiful. I also can't figure out why anyone would hate Short Term 12. It's a totally harmless film. Maybe it doesn't work as well for some, but it worked gangbusters on me. I nearly cried about twenty minutes into the film and it hardly ever let up. Full of so much emotion, do you know how difficult that is to capture in a film without being manipulative? Damn hard. And it did it well. I'd argue that the movie was VERY manipulative, and cheap about it. I just didn't care. I suppose we shall have to agree to disagree... Shame it didn't work for you. It hit right at home, and at the right time too, so I was just wet with tears the whole movie.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jul 9, 2018 21:51:35 GMT
I'd argue that the movie was VERY manipulative, and cheap about it. I just didn't care. I suppose we shall have to agree to disagree... Shame it didn't work for you. It hit right at home, and at the right time too, so I was just wet with tears the whole movie. No no, I think it is the best of the BP nods (I'm missing Before Midnight). I just found it to be manipulative slosh that was so good at it that the film transcends its own cheap tearjerking (that scene with the girl writing the story about being molested was just ugh) to be effective. There's just so much it does right mixed in with all the wrong.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jul 9, 2018 22:01:03 GMT
Finally getting around to seeing the Best Picture line-up and I'm genuinely shocked at how much I don't hate it. It has four of my five favorite films of the year in it (all that's missing is Prisoners) and I can live with Gravity's inclusion. Just shocked that Place Beyond the Pines and Short Term 12 made the cut. That's absolutely beautiful. I also can't figure out why anyone would hate Short Term 12. It's a totally harmless film. Maybe it doesn't work as well for some, but it worked gangbusters on me. I nearly cried about twenty minutes into the film and it hardly ever let up. Full of so much emotion, do you know how difficult that is to capture in a film without being manipulative? Damn hard. And it did it well. I'd argue that the movie was VERY manipulative, and cheap about it. I just didn't care. I didn't see it that way. I'm a sensitive person but I can tell when a film is expressly trying to get me to feel a certain way (*ahem* Spielberg) and I tend to react very negatively toward that. I think what made Short Term 12 such a emotionally resplendent experience for me at least is how real it felt. I can't find a single false note in it, so I'm ok with letting myself be taken over by that kind of experience. Especially coming from a similar place myself dealing with mental health and shit, the movie felt dead-on in its portrayals and I have a ton of respect for that. I haven't seen a film in this space that's as realistic or empathetic as Short Term 12. Cretton's volunteering experience definitely came through.
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Post by idioticbunny on Jul 9, 2018 23:17:32 GMT
I'd argue that the movie was VERY manipulative, and cheap about it. I just didn't care. I didn't see it that way. I'm a sensitive person but I can tell when a film is expressly trying to get me to feel a certain way (*ahem* Spielberg) and I tend to react very negatively toward that. I think what made Short Term 12 such a emotionally resplendent experience for me at least is how real it felt. I can't find a single false note in it, so I'm ok with letting myself be taken over by that kind of experience. Especially coming from a similar place myself dealing with mental health and shit, the movie felt dead-on in its portrayals and I have a ton of respect for that. I haven't seen a film in this space that's as realistic or empathetic as Short Term 12. Cretton's volunteering experience definitely came through. Martin Stett Can't say it better than Tommen_Saperstein did. I've dealt with mental health problems as well, but not to the extent as those I've been closest to or have been in relationships with and watching it back in 2013 in theaters when I was toward the bitter end of one of those relationships where mental health took a toll on us both was gut-wrenching. Felt superbly authentic in its portrayal of it for me, even if some of the writing could have come off as anything but (the octopus book you mention for instance), but Cretton's direction felt earnest enough that it didn't feel manipulative or exploitative to me. Regardless, glad it'll be your pick of these fine nominees for BP! Though if you're a fan of the other two Before films, you absolutely should check out the third entry.
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Post by Viced on Jul 10, 2018 0:37:37 GMT
James Gandolfini (Enough Said) was robbed. Jonah Hill got nominated again over him. Absolutely atrocious. You people should be fucking ashamed of yourselves.
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