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Post by fujiwarafan on Feb 6, 2017 11:18:46 GMT
Also, the poll doesn't take into account the economic situation of these days, where in the EU for example being left means "opening/free-market" and right means "closure/protectionism". That's merely a matter of perspective. Many people think very differently about left/right. For instance: -many people think of Hitler as far right, yet the political compas has him close to the center -many people think of Hillary Clinton as left, however the political compas has her to the far right, even to the right of Trump -many people think of EU governments as left, although the political compas has them all comfortably on the right -many people think of the european socialist parties as being to the left, yet the political compas has them to the right These are all distinctions I agree with and many other people do aswell. The reason a lot of people do not is because left and right have lost their meaning or perhaps never really had one. Historically the left were the disenfranchised and the right were the people in power. The entire distinction is based on the seating in the french national assembly from 1789, when the royalists seated to the right and the revolutionaries seated to the left. It's hard to come up with any meaningful distinction if that is your basis. Technically you could twist and turn things so that almost anything fits to the left and almost anything fits to the right as you can redefine what left and right means as you see fit. Generally "opening" is more associated with the left and "closure" more to the right but if you get into free-market and protectionism things get a lot more fuzzy. For instance Marx (who is the poster boy for the far left) was against the free-market, while libertarians typically want the most free market possible and the smallest state. On The Political Compas they went with an economic distinction between left and right which I think is (one of) the most meaningful way(s) to look at it. However both left and right have aquired so many meanings that it's impossible to boil it down to one thing. Unfortunately this encourages making politics a show rather than an actual debate but it's hard to change it. Reality is too complex for such labels. However while I think some of the questions are questionable (to say the least), I actually like general measures of the political compas because it's easy to decipher. I pretty much agree on everything, especially because politics evolves with history and reality. The EU alignements and economic policy are a typical example of this. What hasn't changed much is the social view of the two sides. Left keeps standing on the "opening", while right on the "closure" and that's what the political compass lacks: a proper way to determine that economic policies have kind of switched and keep on changing. So you have me being put in the "authoritarian left" section but being a fan of Marine Le Pen for example.
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Post by bing147 on Feb 7, 2017 18:40:23 GMT
Economic Left/Right: -6.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.1
Very close to dmitriyuriev, but about 1.5 squares further down towards libertarian.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 3:03:45 GMT
Left libertarian, I guess my jefe will be ashamed of me
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Post by The-Havok on Feb 13, 2017 3:29:11 GMT
Left libertarian, I guess my jefe will be ashamed of me Is he a PRI shill?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 3:47:31 GMT
Took the test
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 5:45:47 GMT
Left libertarian, I guess my jefe will be ashamed of me Is he a PRI shill? No idea, I never talk about politics, or at least with him
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Post by mrx2848 on Feb 19, 2017 20:09:37 GMT
They call me a Left Libertarian, but I don't buy it. I've long been an advocate of strong central government and regulations. The poll felt fishy to me simply from the phrasing of the questions.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Feb 20, 2017 1:36:35 GMT
I've long been an advocate of strong central government and regulations. I hate you.
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 20, 2017 5:22:42 GMT
I haven't completed yet, but these questions are terrible. And I'm only two questions into the quiz. Further in now. I reserve the right to disown the results of this quiz, because it is godawful. Okay, seriously guys. Finished with page 2. I'll finish the quiz for the lulz, but I'm finding a less leading one after this. Gosh. If you agree with some of these questions, you're a white supremacist or some other kind of nutjob. "People with serious inheritable disabilities should not be allowed to reproduce?" Agree or disagree? Are you fucking kidding me? "The most important thing for children to learn is to accept discipline?" I believe in discipline. Seriously, I do. I even believe in spanking if you're not an idiot about it. But THAT ISN'T THE GOAL OF DISCIPLINE! Discipline is a measured punishment that you know is coming if you do something bad. You hit your brother, you get a good spanking, slate is clean, move along. Accepting discipline is merely accepting your consequence if you do something bad. The goal is that you decide that it really isn't worth being bad, so you don't need discipline. Because when you're thirty-five and kill a guy holding up a gas station, the important thing isn't that you accept the discipline. The important thing is that you don't do that in the first place. Yeeeeh, I call bull.
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Post by DingoMatty on Feb 20, 2017 7:26:33 GMT
Left lib - more than fucking Gandhi bitches.
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Post by magdafr on Feb 20, 2017 14:13:28 GMT
I agree.
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Post by Schiggy on Feb 20, 2017 18:17:18 GMT
Economic Left/Right: -6.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.13
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Post by Joaquim on Feb 20, 2017 18:23:14 GMT
I've long been an advocate of strong central government and regulations. I hate you. We're surrounded by communists.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Feb 21, 2017 1:15:25 GMT
We're surrounded by communists. Yep
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Post by The-Havok on Feb 23, 2017 4:26:41 GMT
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Post by Barbie on Feb 24, 2017 16:22:07 GMT
Yaaaass left libertarian. I'm cool with authoritarian left, and I'm pleased to see no one is a fucking Ancap who are legit as horrendous as Nazis
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 17:35:02 GMT
Yaaaass left libertarian. I'm cool with authoritarian left, and I'm pleased to see no one is a fucking Ancap who are legit as horrendous as Nazis How are ancaps as bad as nazis exactly?
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Mar 5, 2017 21:24:27 GMT
Yaaaass left libertarian. I'm cool with authoritarian left, and I'm pleased to see no one is a fucking Ancap who are legit as horrendous as Nazis Did someone drop you on your head as a child? I'm seriously asking.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 13, 2017 4:02:35 GMT
Yaaaass left libertarian. I'm cool with authoritarian left, and I'm pleased to see no one is a fucking Ancap who are legit as horrendous as Nazis Did someone drop you on your head as a child? I'm seriously asking. You're one to talk.
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