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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jun 20, 2018 13:03:05 GMT
This is quite big big big news . I'm all ears...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 13:43:15 GMT
It’s beyond fucked up and anyone who justifies it is a piece of shit. Yes, there must be a resolution about immigration and how they can and cannot enter the country, but yanking their kids away and throwing them in cages is barbaric and disgusting. I curse every asshole in ICE and Border Patrol and Fox News and the orange bacteria’s administration. I’d call him and his cronies pigs but even pigs have compassion.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jun 20, 2018 14:09:22 GMT
It’s beyond fucked up and anyone who justifies it is a piece of shit. Yes, there must be a resolution about immigration and how they can and cannot enter the country, but yanking their kids away and throwing them in cages is barbaric and disgusting. I curse every asshole in ICE and Border Patrol and Fox News and the orange bacteria’s administration. I’d call him and his cronies pigs but even pigs have compassion. Yes , this absolutely cruel . My heart breaks for those poor kids . Even a lot of Conservatives agree that the whole thing is so fucked up . Reminds me of the Holocaust when Nazis were separating children from their parents .
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Post by cherry68 on Jun 20, 2018 14:16:08 GMT
Of course not, especially for small children (teenagers are usually less traumatized). I wonder if American law doesn't allow mothers to keep their babies with them in prison at least, in a special area.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jun 20, 2018 14:27:37 GMT
Of course not, especially for small children (teenagers are usually less traumatized). I wonder if American law doesn't allow mothers to keep their babies with them in prison at least, in a special area. Yeah , some of the mothers are still breastfeeding their babies for God's sake !
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Jun 20, 2018 14:50:28 GMT
It really is beyond the pale.
Perhaps it isn't the end of the world that the US has pulled out of the UN Human Rights Council. It's clearly an area that their tangoed cunt leader, and current governing administration is not particularly interested in.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 20, 2018 15:01:42 GMT
This is the reason I'm not a Republican. This right here. I don't understand how my conservative mother, who says this is absolutely wrong, can stand by and still stand by her vote for Trump after this. To be fair, she considered him the lesser of two evils, but if everyone who did consider him the lesser of two evils actually voted third party like me, maybe something would change for the next election.
No one should be troubled by this news. They should be incensed. They should be banging down their representatives' doors and flooding their phone lines to stop this. But no one will. As Joaquin Phoenix's character in Hotel Rwanda wisely observed: "People are going to say 'that's terrible.' And then go on eating their dinners."
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Post by quetee on Jun 20, 2018 16:06:52 GMT
Is Trump trolling the Republicans or what? This whole thing is a disgrace. I hate it when people who are able to do not put bullies in check.
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Post by quetee on Jun 20, 2018 16:09:27 GMT
This is the reason I'm not a Republican. This right here. I don't understand how my conservative mother, who says this is absolutely wrong, can stand by and still stand by her vote for Trump after this. To be fair, she considered him the lesser of two evils, but if everyone who did consider him the lesser of two evils actually voted third party like me, maybe something would change for the next election. No one should be troubled by this news. They should be incensed. They should be banging down their representatives' doors and flooding their phone lines to stop this. But no one will. As Joaquin Phoenix's character in Hotel Rwanda wisely observed: "People are going to say 'that's terrible.' And then go on eating their dinners." I think at the end of the day, if you admit you made a huge mistake then you would look like a horrible person. It's called saving face.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 20:11:30 GMT
It’s beyond fucked up and anyone who justifies it is a piece of shit. Yes, there must be a resolution about immigration and how they can and cannot enter the country, but yanking their kids away and throwing them in cages is barbaric and disgusting. I curse every asshole in ICE and Border Patrol and Fox News and the orange bacteria’s administration. I’d call him and his cronies pigs but even pigs have compassion. /thread
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jun 20, 2018 20:59:07 GMT
I remember when people were using the Japanese-American internment camps as a extreme example of what the Trump Administration stands for, but this...this is so much worse. It's unfathomable that this is occurring in America in 2018. The only consolation I can take from it is that these events and all those who defended these policies will be made to hold their heads in shame when these things are exposed as sickening violations of human rights that they are. No one supporting this vile inhumane treatment will be able to defend themselves in the court of public opinion decades from now. They are now and forever on the WRONG side of history. When that time comes, there will be no debate, no forgiving, no forgetting. I hope the guilt haunts them to their graves.
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Post by quetee on Jun 20, 2018 21:22:54 GMT
I'm thinking we should follow the money on this one.
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Post by countjohn on Jun 21, 2018 3:28:59 GMT
Heard today doing what they did cost eight times as much as if they had just kept them in the same place. There's really no apparent motivation for it at all aside from just going out of their way to be cruel.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 21, 2018 14:19:46 GMT
It's beyond sickening, inhumane, and just unforgivable. Anyone who defends it, is a monster at this point as far as I'm concerned. Trump's adminstration is the worst, and The GOP is full of heartless monsters. These children are people too, but since they have brown skin, and of a different nationality, it's okay if they suffer. There's a reason I'll never vote Republican in my life.
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Post by quetee on Jun 21, 2018 16:09:15 GMT
History repeats itself: that's not the same...they were trying to keep them in and we are trying to keep that out.....the trump rep that said that is a moron.
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Post by cherry68 on Jun 21, 2018 16:09:27 GMT
It's beyond sickening, inhumane, and just unforgivable. Anyone who defends it, is a monster at this point as far as I'm concerned. Trump's adminstration is the worst, and The GOP is full of heartless monsters. These children are people too, but since they have brown skin, and of a different nationality, it's okay if they suffer. There's a reason I'll never vote Republican in my life. Read Dazed 's post in this thread. It was already done during Obama 's administration. Trump already cancelled this law yesterday and now children and parents can reunite. 😊
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Post by quetee on Jun 21, 2018 16:18:30 GMT
It's beyond sickening, inhumane, and just unforgivable. Anyone who defends it, is a monster at this point as far as I'm concerned. Trump's adminstration is the worst, and The GOP is full of heartless monsters. These children are people too, but since they have brown skin, and of a different nationality, it's okay if they suffer. There's a reason I'll never vote Republican in my life. Read Dazed 's post in this thread. It was already done during Obama 's administration. Trump already cancelled this law yesterday and now children and parents can reunite. 😊 he was not taking kids from family.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 21, 2018 16:33:02 GMT
It's beyond sickening, inhumane, and just unforgivable. Anyone who defends it, is a monster at this point as far as I'm concerned. Trump's adminstration is the worst, and The GOP is full of heartless monsters. These children are people too, but since they have brown skin, and of a different nationality, it's okay if they suffer. There's a reason I'll never vote Republican in my life. Read Dazed 's post in this thread. It was already done during Obama 's administration. Trump already cancelled this law yesterday and now children and parents can reunite. 😊 It was never this bad under Obama though. Also don't trust Trump, the mistreatment is still going on inside, and they won't even let senators or mayors see it, that's how bad it is. At this point ICE needs to be abolished.
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Post by Zeb31 on Jun 21, 2018 16:58:43 GMT
Trump already cancelled this law yesterday and now children and parents can reunite. 😊 This isn't a law, it's a policy that was instated two months ago by the Trump administration (Jeff Sessions, to be precise), and not only is there an indefinite "implementation phase" before Trump's executive order takes actual effect, during which the current practice still stands, the White House still hasn't announced that the 2,300 children that are being held in custody will be reunited with their parents. They might be at some point, but it's unclear when/if that'll happen. So no, this isn't cancelled.
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Post by clunkybob2 on Jun 21, 2018 17:25:29 GMT
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Post by dazed on Jun 21, 2018 20:25:28 GMT
It's beyond sickening, inhumane, and just unforgivable. Anyone who defends it, is a monster at this point as far as I'm concerned. Trump's adminstration is the worst, and The GOP is full of heartless monsters. These children are people too, but since they have brown skin, and of a different nationality, it's okay if they suffer. There's a reason I'll never vote Republican in my life. Read Dazed 's post in this thread. It was already done during Obama 's administration. Trump already cancelled this law yesterday and now children and parents can reunite. 😊 I was misinformed which lead me to being wrong so I deleted my post. The Obama administration did put the children in detention centers and cages, but they didn't deliberately separate the kids from the families like the Trump administration was doing with the zero tolerance policy that they implemented a few months ago. The zero tolerance policy is still in effect though and the 2000+ kids are still being held in the detention centers. It’s sad that there needs to be a massive public outcry for the government to realize that what their doing is severely inhumane and wrong (wouldn’t be surprised if they know it’s wrong but do it anyways). It’s 2018 and the most influential country in the world that’s all about ‘fighting for equality’ is still doing this kind of shit and think they can get away with it? So fucking despicable.
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Post by cherry68 on Jun 21, 2018 20:34:57 GMT
dazedWell, let's hope children will be allowed to stay with their mothers at least. They say the pentagon will give some buildings to house them.
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Post by quetee on Jun 21, 2018 21:38:24 GMT
Read Dazed 's post in this thread. It was already done during Obama 's administration. Trump already cancelled this law yesterday and now children and parents can reunite. 😊 I was misinformed which lead me to being wrong so I deleted my post. The Obama administration did put the children in detention centers and cages, but they didn't deliberately separate the kids from the families like the Trump administration was doing with the zero tolerance policy that they implemented a few months ago. The zero tolerance policy is still in effect though and the 2000+ kids are still being held in the detention centers. It’s sad that there needs to be a massive public outcry for the government to realize that what their doing is severely inhumane and wrong (wouldn’t be surprised if they know it’s wrong but do it anyways). It’s 2018 and the most influential country in the world that’s all about ‘fighting for equality’ is still doing this kind of shit and think they can get away with it? So fucking despicable. the worst part about this is that it was costing more to separate them.
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Post by quetee on Jun 21, 2018 21:40:44 GMT
dazedWell, let's hope children will be allowed to stay with their mothers at least. They say the pentagon will give some buildings to house them. they already admitted to losing kids. One of Trump's cronies was on tv and he actually responded boo hoo when someone said a kid with down's syndrome was separated from mother.
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Post by cherry68 on Jun 21, 2018 22:03:35 GMT
dazedWell, let's hope children will be allowed to stay with their mothers at least. They say the pentagon will give some buildings to house them. they already admitted to losing kids. One of Trump's cronies was on tv and he actually responded boo hoo when someone said a kid with down's syndrome was separated from mother. Poor child. He'll be even more disoriented.
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