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Post by Zeb31 on Jun 16, 2018 22:35:53 GMT
Well then.
It's a Tidal exclusive for now (because I guess it isn't as big a deal not to pay artists' royalties if the artists own the streaming service).
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Post by Zeb31 on Jun 16, 2018 23:36:53 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 16, 2018 23:51:42 GMT
I dunno, sounds like Jay can't take the best lyricist in Rap history - the guy who Ethered him releasing another stellar record just yesterday.
Just kidding......I know they're friends now......but not really kidding
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jun 19, 2018 14:54:13 GMT
One of my issues with Jay-Z in the latter part of his career was how he seemed to care mostly about projecting an image of opulence and glamour, emphasizing his financial success as though that alone made him the pinnacle of hip hop (sure other artists brag about how rich they are, but not to such an extreme nor do they coast so long off just that), until 4:44 was a welcome return to form. Beyoncé can fall into similar trappings, but her ascendance to the point of celebrity hero worship (a trend that will never not be disturbing going all the way back to Elvis) came with her actually getting better, more personal, and better refined in her music rather than the other way around.
With this album, all of their worst traits are on display as this serves largely as a commercial for how awesome it is to be Beyoncé and Jay-Z. Well, mostly Beyoncé since Jay's vocal contributions are more dispersed than hers. That kind of self-mythologizing paired with the clean New York sound would have fit in just nicely a decade ago or hell even 5-6 years ago, but in 2018 and after each artist is coming off some of their best and most personal work, it feels like a hollow exercise in brand management.
Class is at the forefront of the album and all they have to say about that is "we're so rich we can do whatever we want." A few times they toy with the idea of political intrigue by again positioning themselves as icons of black glamour, addressing how they're both black and rich but instead of of actually touching on issues of race as they have in the past, they only reinforce capitalism by glamorizing their wealth and being very strategic regarding this album's release: right after their tour started and a month after Tidal was accused of fraud.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 19, 2018 16:03:23 GMT
One of my problems with Jay who is the GOAT of all time (I love Nas as a lyricist far more but just in that way) is he is the Rap equivalent of a boring Rock band in how he's treated now (i.e. the U2 of the genre except he was actually the best) Essentially he, by being so big, for so long that everything that applies to anyone else doesn't apply to him. No critical thought applies because he needs his own critical thought I guess. Except 4:44 which I thought was major stuff.......
My main problem is that everything is a pose, the young Jay would have thought this Jay was a kind of boring joke - the hell with your wife and your spoiled baby etc. But you can't say that, you have to take his celebrations of wealth at face value, at the life you'll never have and hey, good for him but it bores me.
The one lyric I always loved of his, the most honest he's been in a long time was from Watch the Throne - Nigg*s in Paris :
Ball so hard, I'm shocked too, I'm supposed to be locked up too You escaped what I've escaped You'd be in Paris getting f*cked up too
Damn straight and that's as reflective, other than 4:44, than he gets now, his next record should be a list of his monthly bills......
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