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Post by Film Socialism on Feb 23, 2017 20:31:23 GMT
are there any sorts of films where you don't really trust the critics on, even if it's acclaimed?
i can't really trust them on genre films as a whole thesedays.
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Post by Viced on Feb 23, 2017 20:57:10 GMT
It's not that I don't trust critics, it's more that I just don't really give a crap about them.
I know what I want to see and don't really need critics to guide me. I'm more interested in reading reviews after I've seen a movie.
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Post by bobbystarks on Feb 23, 2017 21:01:05 GMT
It's not that I don't trust critics, it's more that I just don't really give a crap about them. I know what I want to see and don't really need critics to guide me. I'm more interested in reading reviews after I've seen a movie. Yeah pretty much this. Especially that last sentence. |
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Post by Film Socialism on Feb 23, 2017 21:01:09 GMT
It's not that I don't trust critics, it's more that I just don't really give a crap about them. I know what I want to see and don't really need critics to guide me. I'm more interested in reading reviews after I've seen a movie. hm but i mean would most of us have watched Moonlight or Whiplash or Dallas Buyers Club if not for the critics? lower profile films, no big names at the time, newer not acclaimed directors, etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 21:04:36 GMT
Off topic: Have you hear about this site? criticsroundup.com/2016-rankings/ . Basically is RT, but instead they only add reviews of Slant, Reverse Shot, Cinema Scope, Senses of Cinema, Mubi's Notebook, Sight & Sound, Film Comment, Richard Brody, Cahiers du Cinéma, Village Voice etc... |
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Post by Film Socialism on Feb 23, 2017 21:06:59 GMT
Off topic: Have you hear about this site? criticsroundup.com/2016-rankings/ . Basically is RT, but instead they only add reviews of Slant, Reverse Shot, Cinema Scope, Senses of Cinema, Mubi's Notebook, Sight & Sound, Film Comment, Richard Brody, Cahiers du Cinéma, Village Voice etc... litttt |
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Post by Sharbs on Feb 23, 2017 21:07:59 GMT
They certainly help get movies on my radar ie. Moonlight, but they serve no guideline for liking a film or not
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Post by moonman157 on Feb 23, 2017 21:18:17 GMT
Critics Round Up is the bible for me mostly.
Other than that I basically just rely on a few critics though. Michael Koresky, Adam Nayman, Nick Pinkerton, the peeps at Cinema Scope, some of the peeps at Slant, etc.
The Reverse Shot people are great for serious film but they are kind of burdened by a dedication to more traditional arthouse stuff that prevents them from getting into any vulgar auteur shit which is where Cinema Scope offers a good balance.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 21:27:22 GMT
Always
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 3:52:31 GMT
When it's Rex Reed.
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Post by rhodoraonline on Feb 24, 2017 8:11:35 GMT
When they're fawning too much over a superhero film.
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Post by oneflyr on Feb 24, 2017 8:15:24 GMT
Marvel
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Post by JangoB on Feb 24, 2017 9:15:50 GMT
- Marvel movies and Disney remakes
- Non-studio horror films
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Post by fujiwarafan on Feb 24, 2017 9:21:12 GMT
When I realize that in festivals like Cannes and Venice the majority of "critics" are just cinema-uneducated petulant bloggers with no taste whatsover who think it's more important to see a Clooney's press conference instead of a Puiu's one. True critics are nearly extinct.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Feb 24, 2017 9:52:17 GMT
It's not that I don't trust critics, it's more that I just don't really give a crap about them. I know what I want to see and don't really need critics to guide me. I'm more interested in reading reviews after I've seen a movie. This pretty much. I'd even go a little further, as I'm at the point now where I don't even care to read what they had to say, even after I've seen the film. |
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Feb 24, 2017 14:04:44 GMT
I generally ignore them but to your point if something gets rave reviews that wasn't on my radar I'll probably check itmout.
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Post by taranofprydain on Feb 25, 2017 0:28:55 GMT
Truth is that many of the reviewers I trusted the most are gone now. I still like Joe Morgenstern at the Wall Street Journal. Really dislike A.O. Scott.... I don't trust critics when they give raves to things like Sausage Party.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 4:18:54 GMT
When I realize that in festivals like Cannes and Venice the majority of "critics" are just cinema-uneducated petulant bloggers with no taste whatsover who think it's more important to see a Clooney's press conference instead of a Puiu's one. True critics are nearly extinct. Ffs, let this meme die. |
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Feb 25, 2017 4:21:20 GMT
I might keep my ear to what a few select critics or publications have to say, but generally it comes down to whether or not I was already interested enough in the movie to see it and I don't pay the critics that much attention.
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Post by no on Feb 25, 2017 5:30:13 GMT
I think our definitions of trust may not be mutually shared. I generally trust an opinion unless I am given a reason to doubt their truthfulness of subjective view. Biases of auterism sometimes influences a critic to exaggerate their enjoyment of a film. The same can be said with groupthink and peer pressure, in fear of not aligning opinions with others. Political influence can also make critics pretend to dis/like something like Ghostbusters.
But I think you mean, when does one reject the critical consensus as it does not align with one's personal opinions and perspectives? I will think about this one.
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Post by ChairfaceC on Feb 25, 2017 6:27:11 GMT
I don't think I've ever read through an entire movie review, to be honest.
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Post by fujiwarafan on Feb 25, 2017 9:30:22 GMT
When I realize that in festivals like Cannes and Venice the majority of "critics" are just cinema-uneducated petulant bloggers with no taste whatsover who think it's more important to see a Clooney's press conference instead of a Puiu's one. True critics are nearly extinct. Ffs, let this meme die. What? Which meme? |
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Post by tobias on Feb 25, 2017 17:28:25 GMT
are there any sorts of films where you don't really trust the critics on, even if it's acclaimed? i can't really trust them on genre films as a whole thesedays. I don't generally trust them and I haven't realy found a critic whose opinion I will always value. I found that often I expect much more from reviews than even good critics offer. I guess the question is really about when I reject the consensus (e.g. the Metacritic score). The answer to that is: always, however for some more than others. Here are some categories where I'm especially careful: -divisive auteur films - lots of critics love to trashtalk them, I don't think I ever want to read a review of a Lars von Trier film again, some of that was straight out of Kindergarten with all the personal insults. It also happens to Malick and DePalma and many others I would assume. -Marvel & other popular blockbusters - I mean the scores on RT are crazy. Most of them are fringe-fresh ratings though. -Genre films - I think a fair ammount of critics don't get the subversive ones especially. The Sirk's, Ray's or Fuller's of today will not be treated better than they were back then. |
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Post by unfunnyhamster on Mar 7, 2017 21:38:59 GMT
It depends.
Is SASHA STONE a critic?
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Post by Kirk-Picard on Mar 7, 2017 21:45:08 GMT
When critics are unfairly harsh on an actor or director in general and not for that particular film
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