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Post by notacrook on Feb 23, 2017 19:38:38 GMT
...or similar Best Picture winners that many now roll their eyes at and shake their heads at the memory of them beating supposedly better competition?
While I would rather see Moonlight win BP, I did love La La Land and think it would be a worthy winner. But it's becoming increasingly possible that, in a few years time, people will look back at it as a bad decision on the part of the Academy. I hope it's not the case.
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Post by Zeb31 on Feb 23, 2017 19:43:02 GMT
Audiences are crazy about La La Land, though, and it's not beating out a widely beloved alternative. It'll age well. Shakespeare in Love is only as hated as it is because it beat Saving Private Ryan.
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Post by stephen on Feb 23, 2017 19:46:11 GMT
Audiences are crazy about La La Land, though, and it's not beating out a widely beloved alternative. It'll age well. Shakespeare in Love is only as hated as it is because it beat Saving Private Ryan. Couldn't have said it better myself. |
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Post by notacrook on Feb 23, 2017 19:48:45 GMT
Audiences are crazy about La La Land, though, and it's not beating out a widely beloved alternative. It'll age well. Shakespeare in Love is only as hated as it is because it beat Saving Private Ryan. That's true. But then, LLL could end up like Crash, beating Brokeback Mountain, with LLL beating Moonlight being the obvious comparison. But then, that win was more of a shock as most thought it would be Brokeback, so maybe it will go down differently. |
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Post by stephen on Feb 23, 2017 19:51:55 GMT
Audiences are crazy about La La Land, though, and it's not beating out a widely beloved alternative. It'll age well. Shakespeare in Love is only as hated as it is because it beat Saving Private Ryan. That's true. But then, LLL could end up like Crash, beating Brokeback Mountain, with LLL beating Moonlight being the obvious comparison. But then, that win was more of a shock as most thought it would be Brokeback, so maybe it will go down differently. But Crash wasn't the critical favorite of its year. And Moonlight isn't the critical juggernaut, as La La Land has won a fair share of critical acclaim as well. So this comparison doesn't really work. |
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Feb 23, 2017 19:55:09 GMT
That's true. But then, LLL could end up like Crash, beating Brokeback Mountain, with LLL beating Moonlight being the obvious comparison. But then, that win was more of a shock as most thought it would be Brokeback, so maybe it will go down differently. But Crash wasn't the critical favorite of its year. And Moonlight isn't the critical juggernaut, as La La Land has won a fair share of critical acclaim as well. So this comparison doesn't really work. Yeah, plus Brokeback was a financial hit, one of the most talked about movies of the year, while Moonlight is a super small indie film. |
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Post by stephen on Feb 23, 2017 19:58:26 GMT
But Crash wasn't the critical favorite of its year. And Moonlight isn't the critical juggernaut, as La La Land has won a fair share of critical acclaim as well. So this comparison doesn't really work. Yeah, plus Brokeback was a financial hit, one of the most talked about movies of the year, while Moonlight is a super small indie film. People really seem to underestimate how much of a cultural phenomenon Brokeback was back then. It dominated the year's conversation, both positively and negatively. La La Land is the nearest analogue to that this year. |
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Post by Zeb31 on Feb 23, 2017 21:43:47 GMT
Audiences are crazy about La La Land, though, and it's not beating out a widely beloved alternative. It'll age well. Shakespeare in Love is only as hated as it is because it beat Saving Private Ryan. That's true. But then, LLL could end up like Crash, beating Brokeback Mountain, with LLL beating Moonlight being the obvious comparison. But then, that win was more of a shock as most thought it would be Brokeback, so maybe it will go down differently. None of the several factors that taint Crash's BP win apply to La La Land, though, beginning with the fact that its inevitable victory will not be a last-minute shock. Brokeback won all of PGA, DGA, GG, BAFTA, WGA and BFCA, in addition to a strong critics run that included BP wins from the NYFCC, the LAFCA and the NBR. It was clearly #1 in terms of industry + critics support, whereas Moonlight hasn't had that kind of overwhelming success. La La Land has been the favorite since its TIFF/Venice premiere, and nothing else has come close to challenging it. Crash, on the other hand, swooped in at the very last minute because (and this is extremely important) there was resistence in the Academy to give BP to a gay-themed film. Several voters outright admitted they wouldn't support it for that reason, which just isn't the case with Jenkins' film. Finally, La La Land is just better liked in general. It'll probably be the biggest crowdpleaser to win since Slumdog Millionaire, as evidenced by its BO success and high audience scores everywhere (it was #30 on IMDB's top 250 at one point), which Crash never was, and it has the reviews to back it up as well (93 on MC vs. 69 for Haggis' film). |
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Post by chason01 on Feb 23, 2017 21:48:15 GMT
I think they will remember what a great, and fun film it was!
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Post by taranofprydain on Feb 23, 2017 22:11:29 GMT
No, because Moonlight is a rather tiny film, and even though it will be remembered most probably in the future, most of the really controversial winners won over some big, hard to ignore popular box-office smash.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Feb 24, 2017 1:16:44 GMT
Nah! La-La Land is a critical and commercial success, and one of the best-received films of 2016. It's not that comparable to SIL, especially when Moonlight was a much smaller film then SPR.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 2:10:33 GMT
I believe that would be the case the other way around, unfortunately (Moonlight beating LLL » SiL beating SPR)
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Post by taranofprydain on Mar 16, 2017 21:11:13 GMT
Now that Moonlight's surprise win has occured, I think it is safe to say that La La Land will be spared what happened to Shakespere. It will still have a good reputation because it did not win.
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Post by quetee on Mar 17, 2017 20:26:14 GMT
I think when more original musicals with actors that know how to sing and dance are released then it will lose its luster. I enjoyed the what a waste of a night scene but Ginger and Fred did it better, with I won't dance. The last few minutes is what sells La La Land and that is one of the reasons why I think it stuck with people. There are a lot of people who have those what if moments in regards to relationships.
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Post by bobbystarks on Mar 17, 2017 20:45:35 GMT
Oh how naive we were...
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Post by taranofprydain on Mar 17, 2017 21:56:43 GMT
Indeed we were.  |
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