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Post by cherry68 on Dec 19, 2018 6:39:47 GMT
RiverleavesElmiusThe point here is that the girl was 16 and the age of consent in that state was 17. So TECHNICALLY IT WAS ILLEGAL.
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Post by countjohn on Dec 20, 2018 21:24:00 GMT
www.cnn.com/2018/12/20/entertainment/woody-allen-christine-engelhardt/index.htmlApparently the woman in question has spoken out and says she doesn't regret her affair with Allen. This is the same thing that happened when Bowie died where some people saw fit to dig up that incident of him having a teenage groupie even though also in that case she said she didn't regret and even thought it was a great experience. Everyone just got mad at her and insisted that she'd really been raped and was apparently the only person who didn't know it.
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Post by quetee on Dec 20, 2018 21:29:09 GMT
RiverleavesElmiusThe point here is that the girl was 16 and the age of consent in that state was 17. So TECHNICALLY IT WAS ILLEGAL. she stated she met him at 16 and became intimate after 17.so not illegal.
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Post by cherry68 on Dec 20, 2018 21:34:54 GMT
RiverleavesElmiusThe point here is that the girl was 16 and the age of consent in that state was 17. So TECHNICALLY IT WAS ILLEGAL. she stated she met him at 16 and became intimate after 17.so not illegal. The first article linked to by Maria Helena says "For the first three or so months that they began their affair, Babi was still 16, until she reached New York's legal age of 17 in December."
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Post by quetee on Dec 20, 2018 21:39:34 GMT
she stated she met him at 16 and became intimate after 17.so not illegal. The first article linked to by Maria Helena says "For the first three or so months that they began their affair, Babi was still 16, until she reached New York's legal age of 17 in December." I read the one two posts up and that is what she stated.
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Post by cherry68 on Dec 20, 2018 21:54:16 GMT
The first article linked to by Maria Helena says "For the first three or so months that they began their affair, Babi was still 16, until she reached New York's legal age of 17 in December." I read the one two posts up and that is what she stated. Idk which article says the truth. Maybe she realized that saying she was still 16 would put Allen in troubles for statutory rape, thus she changed her version. š¤·āāļø
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 20, 2018 22:10:33 GMT
I read the one two posts up and that is what she stated. Idk which article says the truth. Maybe she realized that saying she was still 16 would put Allen in troubles for statutory rape, thus she changed her version. š¤·āāļø This is a false way to look at this entire thing though - first, this was known about story for a long long time now, it inspired Manhattan - it's a famous story, he's never denied this story, the story is she gave an interview. Secondly he met her in October and started sleeping with her maybe in December - it's a matter of at worst - weeks, if at all. Woody Allen doesn't need to be protected from a statutory rape charge - no one would have charged him then much less 40 years later much less in NYC. You know Warren Beatty slept with Cher when she was 16 (in her autobiography, not a challenged at all) nobody cares - it was the 70s (or 60s) - whole different time, no one blinks twice at it.
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Post by quetee on Dec 20, 2018 22:11:00 GMT
I read the one two posts up and that is what she stated. Idk which article says the truth. Maybe she realized that saying she was still 16 would put Allen in troubles for statutory rape, thus she changed her version. š¤·āāļø who knows but she pursued him which doesn't matter but still and I find it interesting that she was still in contact with him 17 years ago. I guess no word from Mia and those alleged 3somes.
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Post by quetee on Dec 20, 2018 22:13:44 GMT
Idk which article says the truth. Maybe she realized that saying she was still 16 would put Allen in troubles for statutory rape, thus she changed her version. š¤·āāļø This is a false way to look at this entire thing though - first, this was known about story for a long long time now, it inspired Manhattan - it's a famous story, he's never denied this story, the story is she gave an interview. Secondly he met her in October and started sleeping with her maybe in December - it's a matter of at worst - weeks, if at all. Woody Allen doesn't need to be protected from a statutory rape charge - no one would have charged him then much less 40 years later much less in NYC. You know Warren Beatty slept with Cher when she was 16 (in her autobiography, not a challenged at all) nobody cares - it was the 70s (or 60s) - whole different time, whole different thing...........Ā if we start going back to the 60's and 70's nearly all these famous guys would be in jail.
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Post by cherry68 on Dec 21, 2018 14:15:44 GMT
HELENA MARIAI see even other users defending mid aged men having sex with teenager girls, saying that few months or weeks don't matter. I say that it matters formally and even morally. I mean, I could see how it wouldn't be so bad if the age span between the couple is only 2/3 years, but a grown up and a teen is creepy. Brigitte and Emmanuel included. š±
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Dec 21, 2018 14:31:46 GMT
HELENA MARIAI see even other users defending mid aged men having sex with teenager girls, saying that few months or weeks don't matter. I say that it matters formally and even morally. I mean, I could see how it wouldn't be so bad if the age span between the couple is only 2/3 years, but a grown up and a teen is creepy. Brigitte and Emmanuel included. š± Right on! Even a 10 to 20 years age gap is not that big of deal but yes, an adult (regardless of the gender) has no business screwing a teenager. I don't give a fuck if it were the 60's/70's.The change of time doesn't matter. When it's wrong, it's wrong. As for our useless robber in chief and his old lady... The rumor has it that it's a sham marriage. She helped him advance his political career while helping him cover his homosexuality. š¤
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Post by cherry68 on Dec 21, 2018 15:33:45 GMT
HELENA MARIAI see even other users defending mid aged men having sex with teenager girls, saying that few months or weeks don't matter. I say that it matters formally and even morally. I mean, I could see how it wouldn't be so bad if the age span between the couple is only 2/3 years, but a grown up and a teen is creepy. Brigitte and Emmanuel included. š± Right on! Even a 10 to 20 years age gap is not that big of deal but yes, an adult (regardless of the gender) has no business screwing a teenager. I don't give a fuck if it were the 60's/70's.The change of time doesn't matter. When it's wrong, it's wrong. As for our useless robber in chief and his old lady... The rumor has it that it's a sham marriage. She helped him advance his political career while helping him cover his homosexuality. š¤ I meant 2/3 years age span between a 16 yo and a 18/20 yo of course. Between two grown ups, a wider gap isn't a big deal. I seriously doubt a woman in her mid 40s could predict a big political career for a teenager and eventually marry him because she had first lady ambitions... But apparently she has great prediction skills...
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Dec 21, 2018 16:21:42 GMT
Right on! Even a 10 to 20 years age gap is not that big of deal but yes, an adult (regardless of the gender) has no business screwing a teenager. I don't give a fuck if it were the 60's/70's.The change of time doesn't matter. When it's wrong, it's wrong. As for our useless robber in chief and his old lady... The rumor has it that it's a sham marriage. She helped him advance his political career while helping him cover his homosexuality. š¤ I meant 2/3 years age span between a 16 yo and a 18/20 yo of course. Between two grown ups, a wider gap isn't a big deal. I seriously doubt a woman in her mid 40s could predict a big political career for a teenager and eventually marry him because she had first lady ambitions... But apparently she has great prediction skills... Macron always wanted to do politics. He met his future wife when he was 16 but didn't start dating her until he was 18/19. FYI political career doesn't necessarily mean becoming president. That came later.
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Post by cherry68 on Dec 21, 2018 19:21:57 GMT
HELENA MARIAI'm just wondering what Brigitte was hoping to gain 20 years ago, if it's a fake marriage... Why marrying a very young guy if he's gay? š¤
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Dec 21, 2018 19:28:12 GMT
HELENA MARIA I'm just wondering what Brigitte was hoping to gain 20 years ago, if it's a fake marriage... Why marrying a very young guy if he's gay? š¤ Apparently , she discovered his homosexuality only later...not that I give two shits about his sexual orientation .Who really knows what's going on inside their marriage ? Bear in mind that those are only rumors .
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Dec 21, 2018 20:31:32 GMT
The point here is that the girl was 16 and the age of consent in that state was 17. So TECHNICALLY IT WAS ILLEGAL. You're wasting your time explaining this to a vile creature who said that Polanski drugging and raping a 13 yeared-old girl shouldn't be a big deal because he's such a legendary filmmaker ššš Anyway, thank God I put that filthy rat on Ignore.I was sick and tired of watching him pollute this forum with his idiotic and disgusting rants.Now, it's like a breath of fresh airššš And btw cherry68, since this pathetic MariaHelena can't seem to stop slandering me with her dishonest bullshit, let me yet AGAIN state the truth: I NEVER said Polanski's rape wasn't a big deal cuz he's a great filmmaker. Never EVER said it, and you can't find any post here that says otherwise. The Polanski case has a lot of complex layers that aren't black and white, and I'm far from the only user who has discussed them and noted that some of the FACTS of the case are in the pro-Polanski camp's favor, but to make a jump from having a nuanced view to "oh, that means you think the rape was no big deal!" is disingenuous & willfully dishonest anti-intellectual nonsense!! As much as you may or may not have a 100% anti-Polanski position on every single aspect of that case, seeing how fair & nuanced your thoughts have been on the Idris Elba thread, I think you would agree that's quite a preposterous leap to make. But I'll say it one last time so this vile classless idiot can't keep lying about me: What Polanski did to Geimer was AWFUL and (regardless of what one thinks of the way his case was handled or what his punishment should have been or not) definitely a BIG DEAL.
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Post by cherry68 on Dec 21, 2018 20:49:37 GMT
What Polanski did to Geimer was AWFUL and (regardless of what one thinks of the way his case was handled or what his punishment should have been or not) definitely a BIG DEAL. I hope everyone agrees on this.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Dec 21, 2018 21:49:46 GMT
What Polanski did to Geimer was AWFUL and (regardless of what one thinks of the way his case was handled or what his punishment should have been or not) definitely a BIG DEAL. I hope everyone agrees on this. Caligula's words mean absolutely nothing to me . He's full of shiAt . He feels sympathy for Geimer ? Yet he said that Polanski was 100% right & justified to run away considering what that judge was planning to do to him . So which one is it ? Also noticed that anytime a woman is accusing a man of sexual assault , he automatically thinks that she's a liar ? Yes , I believe in "innocent until proven guilty" but believe it or not , it's not always that easy to prove that you've been raped , especially if you're reporting the rape many years later. Oh and FYI : Polanski was never promised a sentence in his plea deal. He acknowledged that there was no promise of a sentence ! Besides , a judge isn't necessarily bound by a plea deal , so I'm sick and tired of some people saying that that he has been unfairly treated by the american criminal justice system. And one of the prosecutors even admitted that he/she LIED throughout that "Wanted and Desired" documentary just to make it more interesting to please the filmmakers So yeah , as much as I admire Polanski as a director , he's still a POS. People are way too forgiving about his actions. ps : Caligula can keep ranting all he wants , I don't give a damn .I'd rather be a SJW than a vile pedophile enabler like him .
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Dec 21, 2018 22:11:15 GMT
I hope everyone agrees on this. Caligula's words mean absolutely nothing to me . He's full of shiAt . He feels sympathy for Geimer ?Ā Ā Yet he said that Polanski was 100% right & justified to run away considering what that Ā judge was planning to do to him . So which one is it ? Also noticed that anytime a woman is accusing a man of sexual assault , he automatically thinks that she's a liar ? Yes , I believe in "innocent until proven guilty" but believe it or not , it's not always that easy to prove that you've been raped , especially if you're reporting the rape many years later. Oh and FYI :Ā Ā Polanski was never promised a sentence in his plea deal. He acknowledged that there was no promise of a sentence ! Besides , a Ā judge isn't necessarily bound by a plea deal , so I'm sick and tired of some people saying that that he has been unfairly treated by the american criminal justice system. And one of the prosecutors even admitted that he/she LIED Ā throughout that "Wanted and Desired" documentary just to make it more interesting to please the filmmakersĀ So yeah , as much as I admire Polanski as a director , he's still a POS. People are way too forgiving about his actions. ps : Caligula can keep ranting all he wants , I don't give a damn .I'd rather be a SJW than a pedophile enabler. Polanski WAS 100% justified in running away considering the judge was gonna unethically break the rules of the deal. FACT! Polanski WAS unfairly treated by the justice system. FACT! Neither of these FACTS means one doesn't think what he did was horrible. One has nothing to do with the other. And when your dishonest wretched pathetic ass repeatedly lies by claiming I said the rape wasn't a big deal, that's called SLANDER. < Yet another FACT, something 100% missing from ALL your worthless posts. Caligula?? ROTFLMAO!! As if I needed any more proof of how OBSESSED you are and what a POWERFUL force I am in your vapid insecure empty deranged brain!! Caligula! Gawd, my posts probably fuck with your blood pressure...gooooood!! š Ps: Polanski's victim agrees with my opinion on the case almost word by word. She's even personally favorited 2 different tweets I wrote basically saying what I've said here. His ACTUAL victim says MY side is right. Loudmouth pearl-clutching loons like YOU are the reason she can't move on from this, which she's repeatedly repeatedly REPEATEDLY written and tweeted is ALL she wants to be able to do. Let THAT sink in. #byefelicia
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Post by cherry68 on Dec 21, 2018 22:39:55 GMT
Polanski has been lucky because the German woman, Renate Langer, who accused him of raping her in 1971 in Switzerland was only 15. Due to a bug in the law, crime can't be prosecuted anymore. If she were 16, he could be arrested. I can't see him as a victim of legal system.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 21, 2018 22:40:23 GMT
This is the unpleasant truth though - Roman Polanski spent more time in jail than anyone in the same situation as him in LA County on that single charge for the 2 years prior - a first time offender on that one charge who got that psychiatric evaluation and recommendation for probation they got probation. So just there alone it's a very strange case - why would Polanski get jail time anyway when no one else was?
Well you could say his actions were malicious but the prosecutors waived all the charges but 1 so you can't then use what you dropped against him - the day the LA Prosecutors dropped all charges but 1 they f'd that case up - they created the Rittenband situation and the Polanski fleeing situation (and the Swiss not extraditing him situation!).
I don't think people are forgiving about his actions but they're really forgiving about the LA Prosecutors office for some reason .......
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Dec 21, 2018 23:03:49 GMT
Polanski has been lucky because the German woman, Renate Langer, who accused him of raping her in 1971 in Switzerland was only 15. Due to a bug in the law, crime can't be prosecuted anymore. If she were 16, he could be arrested. I can't see him as a victim of legal system. Read about this one : Oh yes , Polanski is nothing but a poor little lad "who got fucked over by the judicial system" , "judge was way too harsh on him" , said that demonic sewer smelling worshipper of his Good thing that he got kicked out of the Academy even though , it's still such a weak punishment. He's a sick a fuck and anyone who thinks that it's no big deal for him to abuse young girls because he's a brilliant filmmaker needs a giant metal dildo shoved up his/her ass (at least!).
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Post by cherry68 on Dec 21, 2018 23:18:44 GMT
HELENA MARIAOne of the girls said that she didn't denounce Polanski because she was afraid her father would have done something that could bring him to prison for life, so she spoke only after her father's death. I guess that going to the police to see your rapist serving a few weeks sentence and complaining about how unfair he was treated isn't worth it.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Dec 21, 2018 23:21:05 GMT
Polanski has been lucky because the German woman, Renate Langer, who accused him of raping her in 1971 in Switzerland was only 15. Due to a bug in the law, crime can't be prosecuted anymore. If she were 16, he could be arrested. I can't see him as a victim of legal system. Read about this one :Ā Oh yes , Polanski is nothing but a poor little lad Ā "who got fucked over by the judicial system" , "judge was way too harsh on him" , said that demonic sewer smelling worshipper of hisĀ Good thing that he got kicked out of the Academy even though , it's still such a weak punishment. He's a sick a fuck and anyone who thinks that it's no big deal for him to abuse young girls because he's a brilliant filmmaker Ā needs a giant metal dildo shoved up his/her ass (at least!). Metal dildos are YOUR thing, euro skank, quit sharing your nasty fetishes on everyone. And you call ME "Caligula"??You're such nasty putrid filth I feel like I'm gonna contract a diseased just from reading your shit. Keep fucking around with unprovoked name-calling and starting shit though, bimbo. Something tells me you're gonna simmer down real quick when they see your nasty posts and tell you to STFU. Then you'll pretend you're done arguing as opposed to the fact they SHUT YOUR ASS DOWN!! Transparent & vapid as they come. #eurotrash
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Post by Film Socialism on Dec 21, 2018 23:24:12 GMT
www.cnn.com/2018/12/20/entertainment/woody-allen-christine-engelhardt/index.htmlApparently the woman in question has spoken out and says she doesn't regret her affair with Allen. This is the same thing that happened when Bowie died where some people saw fit to dig up that incident of him having a teenage groupie even though also in that case she said she didn't regret and even thought it was a great experience. Everyone just got mad at her and insisted that she'd really been raped and was apparently the only person who didn't know it. bowie did a fucked up act too and regardless of how sweetly or understandingly you make love to a child when you're an adult that's still a fucked up maneuver i have no idea how people are so hesitant to condemn this more
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