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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 12:55:16 GMT
I've been thinking about this for a while. I hate the idea of it, but I believe in extremely limited government. I think my current position would be allowing it until there's a heart beat, but that's very malleable.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 23, 2017 12:59:19 GMT
The government should stay out of people's vaginas.
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Post by Kirk-Picard on Feb 23, 2017 12:59:49 GMT
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Post by tobias on Feb 23, 2017 14:24:36 GMT
It's extremely arrogant to put a dictat on other people about this (and often it's done by people who say they're for small government). Personally I would probably be against it but I haven't been in the position. Still I think anyone can do as they please about that and as long as doctors are fine with doing it, and as long as the fetus couldn't survive outside the mother.
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Post by DanQuixote on Feb 23, 2017 14:43:58 GMT
I fully support a woman's right to choose.
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Post by dazed on Feb 23, 2017 16:58:51 GMT
Pro-choice until a certain month.
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Post by Joaquim on Feb 23, 2017 18:06:36 GMT
The thought of it honestly makes me sick to my stomach.
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Post by Zeb31 on Feb 23, 2017 18:22:14 GMT
Pro-choice until a certain month. This (even though the establishing of that certain month would undoubtedly lead to a series of abuses by anti-choice groups and the creation of even more artificial barriers keeping women from having access to safe procedures).
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Feb 23, 2017 20:43:41 GMT
The government should stay out of people's vaginas. They're doing the opposite you moron. They're stopping people from sucking out or ripping out a child out of people's vaginas.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Feb 23, 2017 20:44:25 GMT
I fully support a woman's right to choose. Even at 6-9 months?
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Feb 23, 2017 21:00:40 GMT
Yes, even though I personally would be uneasy about it. So you're alright with killing a baby that definitely has all the features it needs to live on its own. The fact that you even say you're uneasy about it shows you do have a problem with but want to make it seem that you're against women's rights when the issue should have nothing to do with it.
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Post by Zeb31 on Feb 23, 2017 21:55:26 GMT
The government should stay out of people's vaginas. They're doing the opposite you moron. They're stopping people from sucking out or ripping out a child out of people's vaginas. That's not the opposite of what he said, lol.
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Post by DanQuixote on Feb 23, 2017 23:10:56 GMT
Yes, even though I personally would be uneasy about it. So you're alright with killing a baby that definitely has all the features it needs to live on its own. The fact that you even say you're uneasy about it shows you do have a problem with but want to make it seem that you're against women's rights when the issue should have nothing to do with it. It's not my place to say really.
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Post by bkguy182 on Feb 24, 2017 16:10:28 GMT
i support a womans right to choose, within the following framework:
first trimester - anytime 2nd trimester - only if when born the baby would have significant disabilities/low quality of life/the baby will die 3rd trimester - only if the mothers life is in danger
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 19:15:48 GMT
i support a womans right to choose, within the following framework: first trimester - anytime 2nd trimester - only if when born the baby would have significant disabilities/low quality of life/the baby will die 3rd trimester - only if the mothers life is in danger this seems pretty rational to me
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Post by dazed on Feb 24, 2017 19:22:35 GMT
i support a womans right to choose, within the following framework: first trimester - anytime 2nd trimester - only if when born the baby would have significant disabilities/low quality of life/the baby will die 3rd trimester - only if the mothers life is in danger Yeah, that looks good to me.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Feb 25, 2017 3:57:28 GMT
i support a womans right to choose, within the following framework: first trimester - anytime 2nd trimester - only if when born the baby would have significant disabilities/low quality of life/the baby will die 3rd trimester - only if the mothers life is in danger Well at least you're more reasonable than others.
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Post by flasuss on Feb 25, 2017 4:42:07 GMT
i support a womans right to choose, within the following framework: first trimester - anytime 2nd trimester - only if when born the baby would have significant disabilities/low quality of life/the baby will die 3rd trimester - only if the mothers life is in danger Yeah, that seems the right idea.
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Post by Schiggy on Feb 25, 2017 16:28:42 GMT
I see abortion like I see nose jobs, you think they are fine until you see how they are done. Even still, I'm in favor of abortion up to a certain point (IDK what the legal limit is now, I'd just stick with that). However, I think there should be some sort of abortion tax if you get too many. I'm all for "my body my choice" (excluding thinking women should be allowed to drink, smoke, do drugs, enter an MMA career while pregnant), but if it's like...5 in your lifetime (excluding rapes, incest, pregnancies that won't survive), then that's rather a lot. Shouldn't be used as a contraceptive so liberally. That's very irresponsible!
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Post by Nyx on Feb 25, 2017 17:31:16 GMT
I am pro-choice; I fully support a woman's right to choose.
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Post by Nyx on Feb 25, 2017 17:33:47 GMT
i support a womans right to choose, within the following framework: first trimester - anytime 2nd trimester - only if when born the baby would have significant disabilities/low quality of life/the baby will die 3rd trimester - only if the mothers life is in danger By the third trimester, a preemie should be able to survive - so I can't see a doctor choosing to abort an unborn child that could conceivably survive outside of the womb.
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Post by bkguy182 on Feb 25, 2017 19:06:39 GMT
i support a womans right to choose, within the following framework: first trimester - anytime 2nd trimester - only if when born the baby would have significant disabilities/low quality of life/the baby will die 3rd trimester - only if the mothers life is in danger By the third trimester, a preemie should be able to survive - so I can't see a doctor choosing to abort an unborn child that could conceivably survive outside of the womb. Which is why I said only if the mothers life is in danger?
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Post by michael128 on Feb 25, 2017 19:08:42 GMT
love it. turns me on
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Post by cornnetto on Feb 25, 2017 20:01:49 GMT
Apparently in a surprisingly near future, Artificial uterus technology will change that debate, in the sense that the baby would be able to survive without growing in the mother close to day 1, the when the preemie start to have a good survival rate as an important line to a big part of the population will be removed.
You can imagine some jurisdiction/loby pushing for giving the fetus in abortion and having all the growth happen in a artificial uterus.
In a second step, in rich country I imagine many women will choose to not carry the foetus, if one day the artificial external option is view as a safer that give to the baby 24h/24h the perfect food and so on, that also will probably reshape the debate in our mind, it is a question that is bound by a lot of artificial line we make up.
As for my personal opinion about it, I was raised in a place were it was seen pretty much as a trivial available option for woman and not a big deal (not in the sense that it is not a very hard experience for many that go through, in the sense of not being a big taboo or big deal people talk about for the moral/ethic side of the issue), so I never even considered any other view about it.
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Post by Joaquim on Feb 25, 2017 23:15:38 GMT
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