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Post by Pavan on May 24, 2018 10:46:31 GMT
linkLower than Rogue One.
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Post by Zeb31 on May 24, 2018 13:25:52 GMT
I mean, Rogue One didn't come out in the middle of a jam-packed Summer season, didn't have Infinity War and Deadpool 2 to contend with, and was only the second installment in the new franchise as opposed to what seems like the twentieth at this point. It's gonna be a crazy weekend with this and the two Marvel joints both still going strong.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on May 24, 2018 14:27:57 GMT
Well more and more people are starting to reevaluate TLJ and not particularly liking the revelation.
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Post by Viced on May 24, 2018 14:36:00 GMT
Well more and more people are starting to reevaluate TLJ and not particularly liking the revelation. Or they just think Solo looks like ass.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on May 24, 2018 14:37:26 GMT
Well more and more people are starting to reevaluate TLJ and not particularly liking the revelation. Or they just think Solo looks like ass. Well that too... but I still think TLJ has something to do with it as well.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on May 24, 2018 15:54:40 GMT
I'm a little shocked it will be making that much, and this is on the low end of projections (Deadline's projecting between $135-170 million). With it coming on the heels of Infinity War and Deadpool 2, bad press regarding the directorial change, backlash against The Last Jedi, the unimpressive trailers, there wasn't much of a demand for a Han Solo prequel to begin with, reviews have been tepid so far, etc., I would have thought this would be like $120-130m max even with it being a holiday weekend.
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Post by Miles Morales on May 24, 2018 16:04:32 GMT
Well more and more people are starting to reevaluate TLJ and not particularly liking the revelation. Nah. It has always been cool to hate on TLJ.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on May 24, 2018 18:20:20 GMT
Well more and more people are starting to reevaluate TLJ and not particularly liking the revelation. Nah. It has always been cool to hate on TLJ. Not really. People on here rate it pretty highly.
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Post by Joaquim on May 24, 2018 18:33:51 GMT
Nah. It has always been cool to hate on TLJ. Not really. People on here rate it pretty highly. We do not speak for the people.
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Post by Martin Stett on May 24, 2018 18:36:43 GMT
I'm still waiting for TLJ. Surely, it can't be as bad as TFA, right? I'm holding out hope that it won't be a complete dumpster fire.
I have no such hopes for Solo. What a piece of shoddy looking crap.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on May 24, 2018 18:38:44 GMT
I'm still waiting for TLJ. Surely, it can't be as bad as TFA, right? I'm holding out hope that it won't be a complete dumpster fire. I have no such hopes for Solo. What a piece of shoddy looking crap. Here's something about TLJ even the staunchest supporters admit to... a good 30 minutes of plotline should have been done away with. Oh, and no Carrie Poppins.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on May 24, 2018 20:30:19 GMT
It'll probably open with less if presales are anything to go by. I honestly don't think there was much they could do frankly, especially given the director problem.
At this point Disney should probably slow down it a bit when it comes to the Star Wars spinofs, but somehow I doubt they will.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on May 24, 2018 21:50:45 GMT
I'm still waiting for TLJ. Surely, it can't be as bad as TFA, right? I'm holding out hope that it won't be a complete dumpster fire. I have no such hopes for Solo. What a piece of shoddy looking crap. Here's something about TLJ even the staunchest supporters admit to... a good 30 minutes of plotline should have been done away with. Oh, and no Carrie Poppins. How is that any different from whatever else the Force can do? I’m genuinely curious why everyone always singles this out. The Force is not an exact science, it’s a fictional, made-up superpower with no basis in realism, no matter what midichlorians try to tell us. Preserving life and playing Doctor Strange isn’t less fantastical than a Luke using his magic to explode the Death Star, or controlling people and making things float. And this isn’t to say you’re wrong, but the outside internetsphere, between the Force “being ruined” and the “SJWisms”, is so vindictive when it comes to this movie.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on May 24, 2018 22:56:35 GMT
I'm still waiting for TLJ. Surely, it can't be as bad as TFA, right? I'm holding out hope that it won't be a complete dumpster fire. I have no such hopes for Solo. What a piece of shoddy looking crap. Here's something about TLJ even the staunchest supporters admit to... a good 30 minutes of plotline should have been done away with. Oh, and no Carrie Poppins. I don't think the whole Finn/Rose story should have been done away with, but I probably would've cut out that monologue at Canto Bight and pared down the fathier escape sequence for the sake of pacing. That's kind of par for the course with Star Wars, though, every film in the franchise has had at least one scene that feels needless. As for Carrie Poppins, I can agree that the way it was visually depicted was odd, but the concept alone of Leia doing that didn't bother me.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on May 24, 2018 23:00:57 GMT
Here's something about TLJ even the staunchest supporters admit to... a good 30 minutes of plotline should have been done away with. Oh, and no Carrie Poppins. How is that any different from whatever else the Force can do? I’m genuinely curious why everyone always singles this out. The Force is not an exact science, it’s a fictional, made-up superpower with no basis in realism, no matter what midichlorians try to tell us. Preserving life and playing Doctor Strange isn’t less fantastical than a Luke using his magic to explode the Death Star, or controlling people and making things float. And this isn’t to say you’re wrong, but the outside internetsphere, between the Force “being ruined” and the “SJWisms”, is so vindictive when it comes to this movie. Yes, the force is made up. All of it is made up. With that, might as well have Chewie have the power to breathe fire... those puffin things to self detonate like thermal detonator pokemon... so, yeah, it makes sense that someone who probably has the least amount of force power in the universe (well of those who have force sensitivity) able to fly through space. She did something not even in the prequels where Jedi were pretty much superpowered even came close to that. (here's the part where some smartass mentions the comics where Vader moves a planet or some shit and where I roll my eyes and say, "yeah and Vader also fought Predator and Aliens AND THE FUCKING TERMINATOR in one too..."). Also, Luke didn't use his magic to blow up the Death Star. Obi-Wan did. AND Luke got help from Han and Chewie (along with the entire Rebel Fleet before the big finale). I didn't make any mention of SJWars (big company wants many different faces to sell merchandise, not exactly a new thing)... the people who do mention that are not actually SW fans and should thusly, be ignored. There are a lot of people like myself who have serious qualms with the characters, the plot, and how they changed so many things. I will say this, though. TLJ was definitely the best looking SW and the mind-connection scenes were amazing.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on May 24, 2018 23:41:04 GMT
How is that any different from whatever else the Force can do? I’m genuinely curious why everyone always singles this out. The Force is not an exact science, it’s a fictional, made-up superpower with no basis in realism, no matter what midichlorians try to tell us. Preserving life and playing Doctor Strange isn’t less fantastical than a Luke using his magic to explode the Death Star, or controlling people and making things float. And this isn’t to say you’re wrong, but the outside internetsphere, between the Force “being ruined” and the “SJWisms”, is so vindictive when it comes to this movie. Yes, the force is made up. All of it is made up. With that, might as well have Chewie have the power to breathe fire... those puffin things to self detonate like thermal detonator pokemon... so, yeah, it makes sense that someone who probably has the least amount of force power in the universe (well of those who have force sensitivity) able to fly through space. She did something not even in the prequels where Jedi were pretty much superpowered even came close to that. (here's the part where some smartass mentions the comics where Vader moves a planet or some shit and where I roll my eyes and say, "yeah and Vader also fought Predator and Aliens AND THE FUCKING TERMINATOR in one too..."). Also, Luke didn't use his magic to blow up the Death Star. Obi-Wan did. AND Luke got help from Han and Chewie (along with the entire Rebel Fleet before the big finale). I didn't make any mention of SJWars (big company wants many different faces to sell merchandise, not exactly a new thing)... the people who do mention that are not actually SW fans and should thusly, be ignored. There are a lot of people like myself who have serious qualms with the characters, the plot, and how they changed so many things. I will say this, though. TLJ was definitely the best looking SW and the mind-connection scenes were amazing. I don't know why you're under the impression Leia has the least amount of force power in the universe, she is the daughter of Darth Vader, after all. She hasn't tapped into her force powers in the films beyond being able to sense Luke a couple times, but that's out of a lack of training rather than ability. And this is just me, but given how the series has established that those strong in the force may have other developed abilities that inadvertently tap into those powers (i.e. Luke's piloting skills), I've had the personal theory that part of why Leia is such a strong leader for the Rebellion and later the Resistance is due in part to her force sensitivity. And while I'm on about the force, what it can and can't do has always been a pretty flimsy thing. It's a built-in deus ex machina masquerading as some spiritual energy. The force couldn't be used to pull things, create physical ghosts, black laser blasts with your bare hands, or leap extraordinary heights until Empire, it couldn't be used to create lightning until ROTJ (why even bother exerting the physical energy of a lightsaber duel if everybody just learned to shoot lightning?), and it couldn't be used to do all of the CGI flips until the prequels. Force users do what they want and Skywalkers especially are overpowered, but that's always been the case and so far it hasn't gone too far at least in my opinion in killing the dramatic tension of these movies. At least TLJ reinforced the mysticism of the force and displayed how such incredible feats do take a bit outta you (Leia still being incapacitated for a bit after she comes back and Luke dying because he used the force so damn hard). You're the first person I've ever seen indicate Obi-Wan was the one using the force in the first film. Pretty sure the implication of the film is that Luke uses his feelings and taps into the force to properly aim his shot, hence why he gets rid of his targeting computer.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on May 25, 2018 0:16:06 GMT
Yes, the force is made up. All of it is made up. With that, might as well have Chewie have the power to breathe fire... those puffin things to self detonate like thermal detonator pokemon... so, yeah, it makes sense that someone who probably has the least amount of force power in the universe (well of those who have force sensitivity) able to fly through space. She did something not even in the prequels where Jedi were pretty much superpowered even came close to that. (here's the part where some smartass mentions the comics where Vader moves a planet or some shit and where I roll my eyes and say, "yeah and Vader also fought Predator and Aliens AND THE FUCKING TERMINATOR in one too..."). Also, Luke didn't use his magic to blow up the Death Star. Obi-Wan did. AND Luke got help from Han and Chewie (along with the entire Rebel Fleet before the big finale). I didn't make any mention of SJWars (big company wants many different faces to sell merchandise, not exactly a new thing)... the people who do mention that are not actually SW fans and should thusly, be ignored. There are a lot of people like myself who have serious qualms with the characters, the plot, and how they changed so many things. I will say this, though. TLJ was definitely the best looking SW and the mind-connection scenes were amazing. I don't know why you're under the impression Leia has the least amount of force power in the universe, she is the daughter of Darth Vader, after all. She hasn't tapped into her force powers in the films beyond being able to sense Luke a couple times, but that's out of a lack of training rather than ability. And this is just me, but given how the series has established that those strong in the force may have other developed abilities that inadvertently tap into those powers (i.e. Luke's piloting skills), I've had the personal theory that part of why Leia is such a strong leader for the Rebellion and later the Resistance is due in part to her force sensitivity. And while I'm on about the force, what it can and can't do has always been a pretty flimsy thing. It's a built-in deus ex machina masquerading as some spiritual energy. The force couldn't be used to pull things, create physical ghosts, black laser blasts with your bare hands, or leap extraordinary heights until Empire, it couldn't be used to create lightning until ROTJ (why even bother exerting the physical energy of a lightsaber duel if everybody just learned to shoot lightning?), and it couldn't be used to do all of the CGI flips until the prequels. Force users do what they want and Skywalkers especially are overpowered, but that's always been the case and so far it hasn't gone too far at least in my opinion in killing the dramatic tension of these movies. At least TLJ reinforced the mysticism of the force and displayed how such incredible feats do take a bit outta you (Leia still being incapacitated for a bit after she comes back and Luke dying because he used the force so damn hard). You're the first person I've ever seen indicate Obi-Wan was the one using the force in the first film. Pretty sure the implication of the film is that Luke uses his feelings and taps into the force to properly aim his shot, hence why he gets rid of his targeting computer. That's all well and good, but then why isn't it consistent in the new trilogy? You have Kylo Ren; with Skywalker blood, trained by Luke, apprentice of Snoke (who we have to believe is the greatest force user considering his feats), who is beaten by Finn and Rey (both of whom at the time had 0 training... even if Rey can still use the force anyway) and then Rey again (let's even give a slight benefit for being with Luke for however long). You have Snoke... well you know... It's just all over the place. I can see I'm in the minority here, which is fine. People LOVE the movie. I'm sure people will love Solo too. And then the next one.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on May 25, 2018 0:37:36 GMT
I don't know why you're under the impression Leia has the least amount of force power in the universe, she is the daughter of Darth Vader, after all. She hasn't tapped into her force powers in the films beyond being able to sense Luke a couple times, but that's out of a lack of training rather than ability. And this is just me, but given how the series has established that those strong in the force may have other developed abilities that inadvertently tap into those powers (i.e. Luke's piloting skills), I've had the personal theory that part of why Leia is such a strong leader for the Rebellion and later the Resistance is due in part to her force sensitivity. And while I'm on about the force, what it can and can't do has always been a pretty flimsy thing. It's a built-in deus ex machina masquerading as some spiritual energy. The force couldn't be used to pull things, create physical ghosts, black laser blasts with your bare hands, or leap extraordinary heights until Empire, it couldn't be used to create lightning until ROTJ (why even bother exerting the physical energy of a lightsaber duel if everybody just learned to shoot lightning?), and it couldn't be used to do all of the CGI flips until the prequels. Force users do what they want and Skywalkers especially are overpowered, but that's always been the case and so far it hasn't gone too far at least in my opinion in killing the dramatic tension of these movies. At least TLJ reinforced the mysticism of the force and displayed how such incredible feats do take a bit outta you (Leia still being incapacitated for a bit after she comes back and Luke dying because he used the force so damn hard). You're the first person I've ever seen indicate Obi-Wan was the one using the force in the first film. Pretty sure the implication of the film is that Luke uses his feelings and taps into the force to properly aim his shot, hence why he gets rid of his targeting computer. That's all well and good, but then why isn't it consistent in the new trilogy? You have Kylo Ren; with Skywalker blood, trained by Luke, apprentice of Snoke (who we have to believe is the greatest force user considering his feats), who is beaten by Finn and Rey (both of whom at the time had 0 training... even if Rey can still use the force anyway) and then Rey again (let's even give a slight benefit for being with Luke for however long). You have Snoke... well you know... It's just all over the place. I can see I'm in the minority here, which is fine. People LOVE the movie. I'm sure people will love Solo too. And then the next one. Kylo was also shot by Chewbacca's bowcaster, the same weapon that throughout the movie was laying waste to people and making them flip backwards a few feet hilariously with a single shot. Just the fact Kylo took that shot and was still standing was pretty impressive. And he dispatches Finn pretty easily, he's toying with him through most of the fight (turning his back on Finn after he knocked him down, digging his crossguard into his shoulder) and it's only after Finn gets in a lucky shot that he immediately takes him out. As for Rey, he doesn't seem to be giving his all to really hurt her. He mostly swings around her, knocking over trees and only lightly making contact with her lightsaber as she swings around wildly while trying to run away. Even when he has her up against a cliff, he offers to train her instead of trying to take her out. She concentrates on the force, starts acting as the aggressor, and gets some shots on an already wounded Kylo. And if you're referring to him not getting Luke's lightsaber during that force tug of war as him beating beaten by Rey again, they're pretty much at a stalemate after she gets the jump on him and she only gets away clean after Holdo makes the movie quiet for a few seconds. One thing to note regarding Kylo is he had a substantially easier time taking on multiple Praetorian Guards at once and only found himself in a vulnerable spot when he let go of his lightsaber, while Rey at most took on two at once and struggled with one almost the whole time. As for Snoke, overconfidence being the downfall of dark side users has been a trope in the series, he has no clue of Kylo's conflicted emotions just as the Emperor was unaware of Vader's.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on May 25, 2018 2:56:32 GMT
How is that any different from whatever else the Force can do? I’m genuinely curious why everyone always singles this out. The Force is not an exact science, it’s a fictional, made-up superpower with no basis in realism, no matter what midichlorians try to tell us. Preserving life and playing Doctor Strange isn’t less fantastical than a Luke using his magic to explode the Death Star, or controlling people and making things float. And this isn’t to say you’re wrong, but the outside internetsphere, between the Force “being ruined” and the “SJWisms”, is so vindictive when it comes to this movie. Yes, the force is made up. All of it is made up. With that, might as well have Chewie have the power to breathe fire... those puffin things to self detonate like thermal detonator pokemon... so, yeah, it makes sense that someone who probably has the least amount of force power in the universe (well of those who have force sensitivity) able to fly through space. She did something not even in the prequels where Jedi were pretty much superpowered even came close to that. (here's the part where some smartass mentions the comics where Vader moves a planet or some shit and where I roll my eyes and say, "yeah and Vader also fought Predator and Aliens AND THE FUCKING TERMINATOR in one too..."). Also, Luke didn't use his magic to blow up the Death Star. Obi-Wan did. AND Luke got help from Han and Chewie (along with the entire Rebel Fleet before the big finale). I didn't make any mention of SJWars (big company wants many different faces to sell merchandise, not exactly a new thing)... the people who do mention that are not actually SW fans and should thusly, be ignored. There are a lot of people like myself who have serious qualms with the characters, the plot, and how they changed so many things. I will say this, though. TLJ was definitely the best looking SW and the mind-connection scenes were amazing. I didn’t mean to lump you in to that crowd (and I apologize if I did), but yeah, the internet culture has been downright acidic in that regard. It’s very tough to find essays or takedowns with meaningful, legitimate gripes (or which there are plenty, l’ll give you that), when they’re buried under mounds and heaps of people parroting the other people, and boiling it down to “SJW politics” (when Wars, like Star Wars, are *fought on politics*). On here, (mostly) everything is sensible, but places like RT are a total shitshow, and even videos defending it are spammed with graceless insults (and it goes way past the haters, because even the lovers of the film throw immature fits). There’s no middle ground where everyone can love and hate it, and everyone just gets on. We ought to have a debate and discussion, man. Not only because I’d be genuinely curious as to your thoughts, but I think it’d just be fun.
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Post by Pavan on May 25, 2018 18:47:22 GMT
linkThat's 45% lower than Rogue One which opened to $155M.
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