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Post by Joaquim on Feb 8, 2018 23:44:15 GMT
What I should’ve said is that people need to start choosing independent media WISELY in order to get their information. Like Infowars!
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Post by dazed on Feb 9, 2018 0:22:02 GMT
What I should’ve said is that people need to start choosing independent media WISELY in order to get their information. Like Infowars!
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Post by Joaquim on Feb 9, 2018 0:29:49 GMT
I'm here to date your 6 year old!
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Feb 9, 2018 1:19:24 GMT
Denmark and Norway are more capitalist than he is. It's easier for businesses in Scandinavia than let's say France or Germany with less regulations. Hell in some regards they are better than the US. Bernie proposes a shit ton of them. What the Scandinavians have is higher taxes for their social programs and spend very little on defense. Also the independent media online are The Young Turks (far left Bernie shills), Infowars (Alex Jones conspiracy nuts) and Rebel Media (unwittingly an Alt-Right preference). I’ve seen a lot of danish people say how Bernie’s political plan aligns close with their current system. He’s said time and time again how he wants America to look like Denmark. He’s the only politician I know that’s been saying that. His major policies like a single payer system, free college tuition, higher minimum wage (I know Denmark and Norway don’t have a minimum wage, but the workers association allows for their pay to be even higher), higher taxes on rich, pushing for renewable energy, stronger unions, parental leave, paid vacation time, etc all align with their policies. You’ll find some people on the right even agreeing with him on a lot of those policies. And even if you believe that Bernie is to the left of those countries, it wouldn’t matter anyways because not all of his proposals will get through the way he wants them to. They’ll have to come to an agreement, which would push his proposals to the right of what he wants. That’s the worst of the independent media outlets. There’s way more options than just those that are far better. Such as The Humanist Report and Secular Talk (which is my favorite). They’re on the left, but yeah. Kyle Kulinski bashes Democrats damn near as much as he bashes Republicans. Going the independent route, you have a lot more options than what’s on TV. If people want to listen to Alex Jones and take him seriously, then there’s honestly nothing you can do. Even the Danish prime minister had to call out Bernie Sanders and say they're not socialists and my point wasn't about their social programs but accommodations for businesses which Bernie wouldn't be for. As for Kyle Kulinski, he's not as bad as Cenk Uygur but I've seem some terrible clangers from that little puff. And honestly I know he's a little insane but I still take Alex Jones more seriously than Cenk and the other far left journalists like at Salon.
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Post by dazed on Feb 9, 2018 2:06:18 GMT
I’ve seen a lot of danish people say how Bernie’s political plan aligns close with their current system. He’s said time and time again how he wants America to look like Denmark. He’s the only politician I know that’s been saying that. His major policies like a single payer system, free college tuition, higher minimum wage (I know Denmark and Norway don’t have a minimum wage, but the workers association allows for their pay to be even higher), higher taxes on rich, pushing for renewable energy, stronger unions, parental leave, paid vacation time, etc all align with their policies. You’ll find some people on the right even agreeing with him on a lot of those policies. And even if you believe that Bernie is to the left of those countries, it wouldn’t matter anyways because not all of his proposals will get through the way he wants them to. They’ll have to come to an agreement, which would push his proposals to the right of what he wants. That’s the worst of the independent media outlets. There’s way more options than just those that are far better. Such as The Humanist Report and Secular Talk (which is my favorite). They’re on the left, but yeah. Kyle Kulinski bashes Democrats damn near as much as he bashes Republicans. Going the independent route, you have a lot more options than what’s on TV. If people want to listen to Alex Jones and take him seriously, then there’s honestly nothing you can do. Even the Danish prime minister had to call out Bernie Sanders and say they're not socialists and my point wasn't about their social programs but accommodations for businesses which Bernie wouldn't be for. As for Kyle Kulinski, he's not as bad as Cenk Uygur but I've seem some terrible clangers from that little puff. And honestly I know he's a little insane but I still take Alex Jones more seriously than Cenk and the other far left journalists like at Salon. That’s because Bernie uses the word socialism loosely. The title that he gives himself is even wrong. He’s not a democractic socialist. He uses the word socialism to describe something that’s actually a socially democratic. He’s wrong in doing so. Bernie may be a little more left on regulation, but like I said, he’s pretty much a centrist in those countries when you go policy by policy. Which is why it’s laughable when people call him a communist and it’s an obvious smear attack when they do. I find Kyle to be the most trustworthy of all the political channels on YouTube. He’s admittedly had some misses, but that’ll happen when you make over 10,000 videos. He’ll criticize the left when they’re wrong, as well as be an advocate on free speech and supporting people like Milo and Shapiro to speak in front of crowds. I’m not a fan of TYT, but Jones is just way too far out there for me to even compare. I get watching him for entertainment reasons, but other than that, nope.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Feb 9, 2018 2:21:51 GMT
Even the Danish prime minister had to call out Bernie Sanders and say they're not socialists and my point wasn't about their social programs but accommodations for businesses which Bernie wouldn't be for. As for Kyle Kulinski, he's not as bad as Cenk Uygur but I've seem some terrible clangers from that little puff. And honestly I know he's a little insane but I still take Alex Jones more seriously than Cenk and the other far left journalists like at Salon. That’s because Bernie uses the word socialism loosely. The title that he gives himself is even wrong. He’s not a democractic socialist. He uses the word socialism to describe something that’s actually a socially democratic. He’s wrong in doing so. Bernie may be a little more left on regulation, but like I said, he’s pretty much a centrist in those countries when you go policy by policy. Which is why it’s laughable when people call him a communist and it’s an obvious smear attack when they do. I find Kyle to be the most trustworthy of all the political channels on YouTube. He’s admittedly had some misses, but that’ll happen when you make over 10,000 videos. He’ll criticize the left when they’re wrong, as well as be an advocate on free speech and supporting people like Milo and Shapiro to speak in front of crowds. I’m not a fan of TYT, but Jones is just way too far out there for me to even compare. I get watching him for entertainment reasons, but other than that, nope. Read the Democratic Socialist manifesto that Sanders is a part of. They imply that they want the government to take over the means of production but are unable to. I think he's far more left wing than you think.
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Post by dazed on Feb 9, 2018 4:38:06 GMT
That’s because Bernie uses the word socialism loosely. The title that he gives himself is even wrong. He’s not a democractic socialist. He uses the word socialism to describe something that’s actually a socially democratic. He’s wrong in doing so. Bernie may be a little more left on regulation, but like I said, he’s pretty much a centrist in those countries when you go policy by policy. Which is why it’s laughable when people call him a communist and it’s an obvious smear attack when they do. I find Kyle to be the most trustworthy of all the political channels on YouTube. He’s admittedly had some misses, but that’ll happen when you make over 10,000 videos. He’ll criticize the left when they’re wrong, as well as be an advocate on free speech and supporting people like Milo and Shapiro to speak in front of crowds. I’m not a fan of TYT, but Jones is just way too far out there for me to even compare. I get watching him for entertainment reasons, but other than that, nope. Read the Democratic Socialist manifesto that Sanders is a part of. They imply that they want the government to take over the means of production but are unable to. I think he's far more left wing than you think. Haven’t read that. Once I do, I’ll make sure to comment about it though.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Feb 9, 2018 23:08:02 GMT
How about we have neither.... as Norwegians don't have a sense of humor, and they're a bit naive. And there are certain races/countries who are able to adjust to becoming an American faster than others, and here's again where I wouldn't say either of these are first on my list. Lol at people here wanting the U.S. to be like Norway. I guess they only see the rainbow after the sunshine. If there's a country I'd want more people from..... dem Russians!! Smart and highly educated, high tipping, very emotionally zealous people. I admire the generation Stalin created more than any modern generation on Earth. I can't believe I've turned into a Stalin admirer. I can't tell if you're kidding.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Feb 10, 2018 0:15:19 GMT
Third.... absolutely not. Stalin might've been a murderer, but so is every pretty much every U.S. president. The generation of Russians that came after his rule are highly educated and innovative people. I wouldn't mind kicking out some people we have here for them. I'm not the thought police so believe what you want but you do realise that Joseph Stalin was worse than Adolf Hitler.
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