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Post by Billy_Costigan on Jan 11, 2018 13:30:33 GMT
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 11, 2018 15:34:21 GMT
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jan 11, 2018 16:12:52 GMT
He's probably done. Sad really. Doesn't surprise me if they decide to recall / change his nomination.
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Post by tastytomatoes on Jan 11, 2018 17:08:28 GMT
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 11, 2018 17:10:48 GMT
So this is where we're at now? Part of a sexual misconduct story is a guy asking the girl he's seeing for a blowjob? I know that's a gross oversimplification, but really... what boyfriend or girlfriend hasn't done something like that to the person they're seeing?
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Post by Allenism on Jan 11, 2018 17:26:35 GMT
Nevermind those girls tweets because I don't even understand what's going on there. Is there any truth to an expose coming out about that acting school? That's what could cause problems, not so much a tweet about a girl who agreed to do a nude scene now regretting it. I'm wondering that as well. It's been a few days since the Globes and word on the street was that the expose was gonna drop shortly after the event... In any case, even without the "support" of a full blown expose put out by a major publication, these tweets are bad and the fact that his number of accusers has already reached 5 is a sign that there's worse news in store for him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 22:27:10 GMT
Okay, guys, don't delete this reply or ban me from asking this yet, but Crazy Days and Nights posted this today:
www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/01/blind-items-revealed-3_11.html
...claiming that Violet Paley spoke to him directly.
Does this lend more credibility to Crazy Days and Nights now? Or do you think this still doesn't mean much?
P.S. I've heard about Franco being a douche since 2013, but what about Seth Rogen? Has anyone heard any similar rumors about him?
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Jan 11, 2018 23:29:11 GMT
He's probably done. Sad really. Doesn't surprise me if they decide to recall / change his nomination. Unless more/worse things come out - I don't think he's done. HBO is still writing him in season 2 of The Deuce and taking a wait and see approach. deadline.com/2018/01/the-deuce-david-simon-calls-james-franco-entirely-professional-work-on-season-2-continues-amid-allegations-1202241220/I think what he's being accused of is really a shitty, douche move but not on the same level as Spacey/Weinstein. It seems like clearly went to far and took advantage at his acting school - but that's not the same as sexual assault or rape. There needs to be a differentiation - there are different levels of abuse. Plus, he acknowledges that he wants to be part of the conversation and change. Getting these stories out there is important because it's the only way people will change and realize they can't get away with everything - but that doesn't mean EVERYONE who has ever acted inappropriately needs to disappear forever. If the Letterman story from a few year back came out today - would be be fired?
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Post by pickpocket on Jan 11, 2018 23:31:24 GMT
I think this brings to light a pervasive issue in society, whereby women don't feel comfortable in voicing their boundaries, and men don't realise the discomfort/damage they may have unwittingly inflicted. I can fathom that there was a lack of communication, failure to assert oneself over a perceived fear of dismissal. The argument becomes, is it the onus of the women to assert themselves, or did Franco fail to fully communicate his expected outcomes? Or is it somewhere in between?
There is, regardless of the context, a power difference between these budding actresses and Franco’s more established celebrity. I can definitely see how they would concede to him out of fear of jeopardising their careers. Does that mean he would have gone all Weinstein on them for not doing as he instructed? I don't know enough to say, but I do think that this could be an opportunity towards greater transparency between actors over what is and isn't consensual behaviour in an acting studio, especially given the intimate, vulnerable nature of acting, and the presence of sex scenes and nudity. Ideally it should be a two-way conversation between mentor and actor, fully transparent and a safe space to voice reservations without fear of repercussions.
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Post by dazed on Jan 11, 2018 23:33:59 GMT
He's probably done. Sad really. Doesn't surprise me if they decide to recall / change his nomination. If these allegations are consistent and don’t get any worse (which looks likely, since no girl has come out and said she’s been sexually assaulted), he’s not done. These allegations haven’t been nearly a bad as the majority of the other allegations. It looks like communication is an issue here.
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Post by hugobolso1 on Jan 12, 2018 1:08:24 GMT
Franco is soo weird, that this could be a pantomime, 4 a new indie proyect, a mockumentary about witch hunt.-
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Post by countjohn on Jan 12, 2018 1:15:11 GMT
So this is where we're at now? Part of a sexual misconduct story is a guy asking the girl he's seeing for a blowjob? I know that's a gross oversimplification, but really... what boyfriend or girlfriend hasn't done something like that to the person they're seeing? She said he pulled her head down on his dick when they were in the car. The nude scene thing is stupid, but that's pretty bad. A lot of the allegations regarding the acting school are pretty smarmy. You shouldn't send someone home for not wanting to be naked.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jan 12, 2018 1:53:08 GMT
He's probably done. Sad really. Doesn't surprise me if they decide to recall / change his nomination. If these allegations are consistent and don’t get any worse (which looks likely, since no girl has come out and said she’s been sexually assaulted), he’s not done. These allegations haven’t been nearly a bad as the majority of the other allegations. It looks like communication is an issue here. Oh okay, this still isn't a good look for him regardless though.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Jan 12, 2018 2:59:48 GMT
I think this brings to light a pervasive issue in society, whereby women don't feel comfortable in voicing their boundaries, and men don't realise the discomfort/damage they may have unwittingly inflicted. I can fathom that there was a lack of communication, failure to assert oneself over a perceived fear of dismissal. The argument becomes, is it the onus of the women to assert themselves, or did Franco fail to fully communicate his expected outcomes? Or is it somewhere in between? There is, regardless of the context, a power difference between these budding actresses and Franco’s more established celebrity. I can definitely see how they would concede to him out of fear of jeopardising their careers. Does that mean he would have gone all Weinstein on them for not doing as he instructed? I don't know enough to say, but I do think that this could be an opportunity towards greater transparency between actors over what is and isn't consensual behaviour in an acting studio, especially given the intimate, vulnerable nature of acting, and the presence of sex scenes and nudity. Ideally it should be a two-way conversation between mentor and actor, fully transparent and a safe space to voice reservations without fear of repercussions. Beautifully said. That's the positive side to this movement is more transparency in professional settings. I also think sexual harassment and sexual abuse need to be more clearly defined for both sides. Right now I see a lot of confusion about those terms.
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Post by quetee on Jan 12, 2018 3:07:02 GMT
I think this brings to light a pervasive issue in society, whereby women don't feel comfortable in voicing their boundaries, and men don't realise the discomfort/damage they may have unwittingly inflicted. I can fathom that there was a lack of communication, failure to assert oneself over a perceived fear of dismissal. The argument becomes, is it the onus of the women to assert themselves, or did Franco fail to fully communicate his expected outcomes? Or is it somewhere in between? There is, regardless of the context, a power difference between these budding actresses and Franco’s more established celebrity. I can definitely see how they would concede to him out of fear of jeopardising their careers. Does that mean he would have gone all Weinstein on them for not doing as he instructed? I don't know enough to say, but I do think that this could be an opportunity towards greater transparency between actors over what is and isn't consensual behaviour in an acting studio, especially given the intimate, vulnerable nature of acting, and the presence of sex scenes and nudity. Ideally it should be a two-way conversation between mentor and actor, fully transparent and a safe space to voice reservations without fear of repercussions. Beautifully said. That's the positive side to this movement is more transparency in professional settings. I also think sexual harassment and sexual abuse need to be more clearly defined for both sides. Right now I see a lot of confusion about those terms. there is way too much confusion.
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Post by jimmalone on Jan 12, 2018 9:13:33 GMT
I think what he's being accused of is really a shitty, douche move but not on the same level as Spacey/Weinstein. It seems like clearly went to far and took advantage at his acting school - but that's not the same as sexual assault or rape. There needs to be a differentiation - there are different levels of abuse. Plus, he acknowledges that he wants to be part of the conversation and change. Getting these stories out there is important because it's the only way people will change and realize they can't get away with everything - but that doesn't mean EVERYONE who has ever acted inappropriately needs to disappear forever. Good post. Though there ARE some parallels in the way Weinstein and Franco behaved, using their position to get sex. But obviously it was much more emphatic, extorsively and excessive in Weinsteins case.
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Post by harlequinade on Jan 13, 2018 12:36:44 GMT
Okay, guys, don't delete this reply or ban me from asking this yet, but Crazy Days and Nights posted this today:
www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/01/blind-items-revealed-3_11.html
...claiming that Violet Paley spoke to him directly.
Does this lend more credibility to Crazy Days and Nights now? Or do you think this still doesn't mean much?
P.S. I've heard about Franco being a douche since 2013, but what about Seth Rogen? Has anyone heard any similar rumors about him? And she claims they had a relationship? This chick is the least credible person ever. Never heard anything about seth Rogen
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 13:23:45 GMT
Okay, guys, don't delete this reply or ban me from asking this yet, but Crazy Days and Nights posted this today:
www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/01/blind-items-revealed-3_11.html
...claiming that Violet Paley spoke to him directly.
Does this lend more credibility to Crazy Days and Nights now? Or do you think this still doesn't mean much?
P.S. I've heard about Franco being a douche since 2013, but what about Seth Rogen? Has anyone heard any similar rumors about him? And she claims they had a relationship? This chick is the least credible person ever. Never heard anything about seth Rogen So you don’t trust that blind at all?
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Jan 13, 2018 17:46:46 GMT
Rose McGowan went in on Franco:
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Jan 13, 2018 21:21:49 GMT
Ashley Judd calls James Franco's response to sexual misconduct allegations 'terrific' t.co/sMXRitSBcZ
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Jan 13, 2018 21:24:52 GMT
Rose McGowan went in on Franco: At this point, McGowan's manic self-righteous Twitter condemnations have lost all their relevance. It's offensive that a few gossip rags still treat her as the unofficial #MeToo spokesperson. If anything, this can HELP Franco more than hurt him. She certainly helped Streep with her attacks!
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Jan 13, 2018 21:32:28 GMT
Ashley Judd calls James Franco's response to sexual misconduct allegations 'terrific' t.co/sMXRitSBcZYES! Thank you, Ashley, I feel the EXACT same way! If #MeToo held an election for who would be their official spokesperson, Judd would TROUNCE McGowan Ashley Judd/Amber Tamblyn > Rose McGowan/Asia Argento
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Post by harlequinade on Jan 14, 2018 12:10:19 GMT
And she claims they had a relationship? This chick is the least credible person ever. Never heard anything about seth Rogen So you don’t trust that blind at all? I don't believe anything that particular woman is saying. i believe the others, but not her.
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Post by JangoB on Jan 14, 2018 14:17:39 GMT
I just realized that reading raygittes07's comments in Tommy Wiseau voice is the perfect way to do it.
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Post by MsMovieStar on Jan 14, 2018 14:31:39 GMT
I don't like this witch-hunt shyt, many hack actors did the same thing but fucking media just cover up certain top celebrities. Franco is pure great in Disaster Artist, probably the best achievement in his carrer and he deserves recognition for it. No way he's getting snubbed just because of this Black campaign! What happened with Casey affleck's case, They never talked about that again! Oh honey, I don't like it neither... and what if men retaliate and start calling out women? The bigger issue is really about power isn't it? Mae West auditioning a young and ambitious Cary Grant repeatedly... It really has shaken me up and made me question my whole existence as a movie star and love goddess... Is there any future for me in a world without sexual allure and desire? A life without frisson would be unbearable... Maybe I should just give it all up and devote myself to serving humanity... and become a cocktail waitress.
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