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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jan 16, 2018 23:26:40 GMT
I want to give this a go... but I fear it'll be more Criminal Minds than Zodiac.
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Post by Viced on Jan 17, 2018 3:37:50 GMT
I want to give this a go... but I fear it'll be more Criminal Minds than Zodiac. bruh, Fincher directed almost half of the first season... it ain't Criminal Minds.
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Post by Mattsby on Apr 19, 2018 18:59:59 GMT
More info about S2 here via The Playlist. Dominik is the really interesting get this season, he's never worked in tv. Also that Fincher does all the reshoots himself; I heard they were extensive for S1. (Fincher is very hands on, a perfectionist, which is a good thing. But to me this takes up way too much of his time (several years) when he should be doing feature films or at least directing every ep.)
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Post by Viced on Aug 31, 2018 0:17:05 GMT
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 26, 2019 18:24:18 GMT
so i'm watching now and Jonathan Groff sounds spookily similar to Zachary Quinto. 
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Post by LaraQ on Jan 26, 2019 18:41:22 GMT
so i'm watching now and Jonathan Groff sounds spookily similar to Zachary Quinto.  Those two used to date btw.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 26, 2019 19:05:12 GMT
so i'm watching now and Jonathan Groff sounds spookily similar to Zachary Quinto.  Those two used to date btw.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 27, 2019 7:19:14 GMT
ehhhh I have really mixed feelings about this. I binged it over the last couple days and while it was mostly enjoyable is didn't build to a satisfying conclusion at all.
Firstly, Holden Ford. I don't like him. He starts the season a wide-eyed conceited asshole and ends the season a cynical conceited asshole. The sideplot involving his relationship with Debbie was entirely filler. I think it was meant to directly express his transformation over the season but I didn't see much of a change in him at all. Groff's role here is challenging and I think he got what he was going for with this straight-laced, reptilian and socially awkward aficionado of criminal deviant psychology, but...he's not that fun to watch. I don't enjoy Holden Ford as a protagonist. And maybe it's just because the character is supposed to awkward but I couldn't sense any chemistry at all between him and Hannah Gross. It was worst in their first scenes (their dialogue at the bar was super-cringey) and got slightly better as the show went on, but I was never invested in that aspect of the story.
Secondly, while the show definitely looks like Zodiac for the most part (this isn't no Criminal Minds bullshit) and it nails the interview scenes, it strangely feels much smaller-scale despite the total running time of the combined episodes. This is my running issue with most TV shows, because they have more time to fill they more easily fall into the trap of wasting time. While some of them contain so much story that they couldn't possibly contain everything neatly into a 120-140 minute film (Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones), many I've watched or tried to watch seem to pad out their runtime with nonessential filler (see: The Terror) in lieu of laying out a concise narrative. There are several plot threads in this season that go nowhere, the worst offender being Holden's relationship with Debbie which of course ends with a melodramatic breakup because he's too invested in his work (definitely didn't see that coming a mile away). And then there's also Bill's troubles with his son, the foot-tickling principal, Wendy's lover / sexual orientation, Wendy leaving food for that cat in the AC vent (which has a nice little disturbing punchline but the payoff isn't worthwhile). So the season has elements of Zodiac's straightforward take on procedural investigation with a keen eye for rigorous detail just with A LOT more filler and a lot less detail. It's based on a nonfiction book but with all it's narrative bunny-trailing and editorializing and melodramaticizing it doesn't give the impression of that. The season is too unfocused and simultaneously too contained. There's so much here that doesn't add up to anything. And there's also some stuff that flat-out out doesn't make sense, like who the hell though it was a good idea to have Jonathan "I Like Serial Killers" Groff teach a classroom full of grade-schoolers about deviant psychology. Fire that person.
I'd probably give it a 7 or something.
God I'm tired of TV doing this to me. I get watching a show and it's enjoyable and I binge it, and then it just leaves me high and dry and disappointed. I can count on two hands the shows that broke that pattern and Mindhunter ain't one of them.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 27, 2019 7:30:04 GMT
oh yeah and all that stuff with the ADT Serviceman...yeah that stuff was dumb. Show all this footage and then build up to nothing. I don't know maybe it was just a cheap bit of serial killer fan service but it added absolutely nothing to the season and I hated it. Thankfully it didn't take too much screentime but...yeesh. What a waste of time.
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Post by Viced on Jul 12, 2019 18:36:41 GMT
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Post by ibbi on Jul 13, 2019 21:05:39 GMT
FINALLY!
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Post by jakesully on Jul 15, 2019 18:51:18 GMT
Thanks for the update Viced! Been wondering when Mindhunter was going to return . Such a fascinating show . Can't wait
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Post by MichaelPennington on Jul 17, 2019 19:10:59 GMT
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Post by seronie on Jul 17, 2019 22:01:47 GMT
I dislike the big production changes behind the scenes. Sometimes a writer change can f*** a show.
(See Walking Dead for details)
Finchers line about 'more African American music' is just odd.
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Post by Pavan on Jul 18, 2019 7:24:48 GMT
It's been 2 years. Bring it on.
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Post by Viced on Jul 29, 2019 20:31:14 GMT
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Post by Pavan on Jul 29, 2019 20:43:27 GMT
Finally 
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Post by AKenjiB on Jul 29, 2019 22:24:54 GMT
Holy shit, that was genuinely one of the best teasers I’ve ever seen. Truly impeccably edited. Just when I thought I couldn’t get any more excited for the new season.
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Post by getclutch on Jul 30, 2019 2:57:44 GMT
So glad we're getting more Cameron Britton, and it looks like they're ramping up the horror with an active BTK.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Jul 30, 2019 7:12:44 GMT
I'm not even going to watch the teaser. I don't need to be anymore hyped for this show. I'll be there on premiere day.
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Post by stephen on Jul 30, 2019 14:49:49 GMT
Britton's back? That's all I need to hear.
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Post by jakesully on Aug 1, 2019 15:49:54 GMT
HYPED.
That was such a great teaser.
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Post by Lubezki on Aug 5, 2019 18:54:18 GMT
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Aug 5, 2019 19:57:30 GMT
Great trailer. Much better than the teaser. Hoping it'll be an improvement on S1 but I think that seems likely since the story seems more streamlined (no more Debbie yay!!)
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Post by AKenjiB on Aug 6, 2019 1:04:46 GMT
 It looks like Jim Barney, the black FBI Agent who interviewed the team in season 1 will be returning. Makes sense since he’s from Atlanta. Felt bad for the guy last season since he traveled by plane to interview for a job and was objectively the most qualified, even if the reason for not giving it to him was understandable (thinking that white killers might respond differently to a black FBI agent). He seemed intelligent and I’m curious what kind of perspective he’ll bring.
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