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Post by DeepArcher on Feb 4, 2017 23:10:33 GMT
I just finished binging it yesterday. I have to say, this is one of my new favorite active TV series. It's unique, hilarious, devastating, and surprisingly really deep. The thing that really appealed to me, personally, was its pop culture satire; which is why I was wondering if any of the film buffs here also love it.
In particular, I love the depiction of BoJack's Oscar campaigning in season three. It's hilariously accurate stuff, and I have a feeling most MA folks would appreciate it. (The scene where Mr. Peanutbutter and Todd fabricate the nominations is easily one of the funniest moments in the entire season. I got a massive laugh out of just pausing that scene and reading every little detail on their whiteboard.)
Also, for those who are fans, favorite episodes and characters? I think "Fish Out of Water" would have to be my favorite episode, it's just masterful in every sense. Also gotta throw some mentions to "Let's Find Out," "One Trick Pony," "Escape from L.A.," "Best Thing That Ever Happened," "It's You," "The BoJack Horseman Show," and "After the Party." As for characters, I'd say Mr. Peanutbutter and Princess Carolyn; but I really enjoy all of the main five (Diane is the most unlikable, but also the most relatable).
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Post by mhynson27 on Feb 5, 2017 3:43:27 GMT
I watch it and really like it. It's not as funny as say Rick and Morty or Archer but it covers some deep issues really well. A negative of that though is it is very hard for me to relate to BoJack himself in anyway shape or form.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Feb 5, 2017 4:37:15 GMT
I watched all three seasons (thus far), about over a month ago, and I absolutely love the show. It's a great parody/satire of the current Hollywood celebrity lifestyle. Bojack himself may overall be an unlikeable protagonist, but I find him fascinating because of that. Also Mr. Peanutbutter is hilarious.
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Post by mhynson27 on Feb 5, 2017 7:50:33 GMT
Also Mr. Peanutbutter is hilarious. Oh yeah, he's great. My second favourite character behind Todd.
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Post by Dougie Jones on Feb 5, 2017 12:02:03 GMT
"Who's your favourite baroque composer" "Baaach" "What?! Are you crazy, it is obviously Vivaldi!"
I LOVE it, the best thing on television right now in my opinion. It is hillarious, but most of all emotionally rich and deeply interesting.
I think my favourite might be Downer Ending, just because it caught so off guard and it was the one that really made me realize how great the show was. But I mean almost any from the last season or most from the second could be a strong contender.
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Post by dazed on Feb 5, 2017 15:35:39 GMT
I am! One of my favorite shows ever. Love how well they mix the comedy and heartbreaking drama in it. The show seems to only get better and better too. Can't wait for season 4. My favorite episode would have to be "Fish Out of Water". There's so much to choose from though.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Feb 5, 2017 19:25:17 GMT
My favorite episodes are "Downer Ending," "Fish Out of Water," and "That's Too Much, Man!"
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Feb 5, 2017 20:50:51 GMT
Also Mr. Peanutbutter is hilarious. Oh yeah, he's great. My second favourite character behind Todd. Todd is great, I especially love it when he gets involved with that improv cult.
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Post by Dougie Jones on Feb 5, 2017 21:57:40 GMT
Oh yeah, he's great. My second favourite character behind Todd. Todd is great, I especially love it when he gets involved with that music cult. Unless I'm doing a Bojack style bender and my memory is all over the place, I'm pretty sure you mean improv cult
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 22:45:00 GMT
It's great. The third season was an improvement over the less-than-stellar second. Like Rick and Morty, it knows how to make you laugh, but also how to make you cry. "That's Too Much, Man" had me fucked up.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Feb 5, 2017 23:29:08 GMT
Todd is great, I especially love it when he gets involved with that music cult. VYou Unless I'm doing a Bojack style bender and my memory is all over the place, I'm pretty sure you mean improv cult You are correct, and I now feel dumb.
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Post by DeepArcher on Sept 7, 2017 21:01:26 GMT
New season coming out tomorrow. Who else is looking forward to it?
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Sept 8, 2017 2:58:48 GMT
I've been super excited for it.
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Post by dazed on Sept 8, 2017 3:15:07 GMT
WHAT! I didn't know it was tomorrow. Shit. I can't fucking wait.
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Post by DeepArcher on Sept 8, 2017 22:04:14 GMT
Four episodes in. This season is definitely settling into a different vein than seasons prior, with a slightly less focus on the pop culture and meta jokes (the very first scene being an obvious exception), but that hasn't compromised its charming and unique sense of humor in the slightest. It's remarkable how even some of the throwaway bits continue to feel so original (they haven't lost their touch with the animal jokes), all the while we have stuff like Hollyhock's eight last names, which is classic BoJack humor at its finest. "The Old Sugarman Place" is an incredible episode -- the story surrounding Beatrice's mother was dark and powerful, even for this show's standards, and the stuff with Eddie was absolutely heartbreaking; I also really loved the concept of simultaneously playing out scenes at the same location from two different timelines. The premiere, while not as strong as the two episodes that came after it, boasted a refreshing move of not featuring BoJack, and as someone who's always felt the supporting cast is the true soul of this show (nothing against our lead character, obviously), it was great to see the show still thrive without his presence. This season does feel slightly rushed so far -- BoJack coming back so soon was a bit bothersome, but I can deal with it -- but otherwise, I have few complaints. Can't wait to watch the rest of it.
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Post by DeepArcher on Sept 9, 2017 4:34:53 GMT
Ended up watching all of it today. It amazes me how this show continues to outdo itself with its profound emotional turmoil. This season, the writers seem to be more fully realizing the show's "dramedy" label, leading to what can safely be called the show's best single season for character exploration, particularly for Todd, Princess Carolyn, Hollyhock, Beatrice, and of course BoJack. (Mr. Peanutbutter and Diane felt slightly short-ended, but had some fantastic stuff in the mix nonetheless.) After just taking all of this in, there's not much else I can bring myself to say other than that these twelve episodes left me in an absolute emotional wreck, all the while impressively balancing its characteristic melancholy and pessimism with a refreshing, mature, but appropriately slight dose of optimism and hope.
I've already sang my praises for "The Old Sugarman Place", and as far as other individual episodes go, there's so many to love: "Time's Arrow" is yet another spectacular, emotionally-intelligent, hypnotic penultimate episode -- please give Wendie Malick a fucking Emmy; "Stupid Piece of Shit" takes a fun and creative direction in exploring BoJack's psyche, and it's just an incredible episode as a whole; "Thoughts and Prayers" and especially "Underground" are some of the finest showcases for the series' humorist style, both in a delicious darkly comical way; and "Ruthie" absolutely destroyed me in a way only this show is able to do, and it's easily one of its finest episodes ever (might be top three with "Fish out of Water" and "Escape from L.A."). I'm simultaneously overjoyed and utterly depressed by what has been another exceptional season from what is probably television's best currently-running show. It *feels* different, but that's because this show can do what a majority of others are so afraid to: it can change and develop, and can do so without getting rid of what makes it so great, while still finding new ways to stun and upset us.
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Post by dazed on Sept 4, 2018 18:24:20 GMT
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Post by DeepArcher on Sept 4, 2018 19:21:08 GMT
Aggh beat me to the punch in posting the new trailer ... but honestly, screw all of the movies coming out this fall, this new season is the only thing I care about at the moment. I've been re-watching season four recently and I've realized that it's basically impossible to top, but still, this show has somehow managed to only get better with each new season, and I have nothing but high hopes going in. Trailer seems super promising and I can't wait to dig in and analyze it a bit more to get a better idea of what's in store for us. Absolutely cannot wait.
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Post by DeepArcher on Sept 14, 2018 23:01:22 GMT
Another sensational season of television. Will post my full thoughts later, after I let it ruminate. Watching it all in one sitting was...a lot.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Sept 15, 2018 2:15:39 GMT
HYPE
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Post by dazed on Sept 15, 2018 13:17:01 GMT
Can’t wait to watch this once I’m free from school work.
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Post by DeepArcher on Sept 15, 2018 17:36:20 GMT
First things first: Even though nearly every episode that both The Americans and Atlanta produced this year were absolute masterpieces, "Free Churro" has to be, without a doubt, the television episode of the year. It always blows me away how this writing staff has an uncanny ability to craft such unique individual episodes season after season. It can't be stressed enough how much Will Arnett deserves a freaking Emmy for this episode. (And we can't overlook how brilliant he is even in the cold opening. Butterscotch's "Thaaaank yooooouuu?" has to be one of the best delivered lines in this show's history.) And Bob-Waksberg's writing is in absolute top-form. Literally every bit of that episode is painfully insightful and totally heartbreaking. (Also: I love how the audience basically serves as an anti-laugh track.) Anyway ... I don't think this season tops season four. But that's not at all to discredit this season: the last one is a masterpiece that's basically impossible to top. (Then again, I didn't recognize the fourth season as the show's best after my first viewing, so perhaps this one will similarly grow on me even more with subsequent viewings. There's just so much to this show that you need to watch it again and again.) That being said, this season is sheer brilliance from start to finish. It's as hilarious as always, as heartbreaking as it's always been, and pushes into darker territory than maybe ever before, necessarily acknowledging the consequences of BoJack's actions and the true steps he needs to take to solve his problems. This season's social commentary in particular just blew me away. Obviously it's always been a staple of this show's brand, but they truly go above and beyond. I've long been wondering how this season was going to deal with the MeToo movement and the subsequent shake-up of Hollywoo(d), and it really went beyond my expectations. Naturally I'm referring to the hilarious "BoJack the Feminist" episode (one of the season's best), but the developments later in the season are just as good... especially the stuff with 'Henry Fondle'. (Leave it to this show to take a stupid joke and develop it into an ingenious social metaphor.) The way that this leads to BoJack being confronted with his own shitty behavior is not just intense, but so, so necessary and revealing. I reeally hope they do more with the incident with the Horsin' Around makeup artist in the future, it feels essential that that gets addressed.
And of course all the stuff revolving around Philbert was equally clever and hilarious. Rami Malek really knocks it out of the park in his role as Flip McVicker, as his character is developed as a much darker personality than I ever would have expected. It's not only great, characteristically-absurd commentary on the pretentious convolutions & "philosophy" of so-called prestige television, but is additionally revealing in the behind-the-camera antics and dramas of Flip and crew as the show-runner ruthlessly tries to realize his art ... it's depressing just how believable most of the behavior is. Then there's Diane's presence on the crew of the show, an utterly necessary addition as she brings attention to concepts of media normalization via the apparent "deconstruction" of toxic masculinity, and the way that she brings attention to it while grappling with the consequence of her own work is some truly on-point & relevant stuff. As always, the arcs of the supporting characters are just as good as the central storyline(s). As season four did so well, this time around there's also a handful of stellar episodes focusing on one of them -- "The Dog Days Are Over," "The Amelia Earhart Story," and "Mr. Peanutbutter's Boos" are all fantastic episodes that continue the poignant, insightful development of its characters. The follow-up to Princess Carolyn's heartbreaking fourth season arc is perfect, Diane has never been more fully-realized as a character, and neither has Mr. Peanutbutter, whose own behavior is necessarily taken into examination, begging the question what will it take for him to improve, especially given the infuriating (yet appropriate) place that he finishes this season. Todd is given much less dramatic weight than he was last season, but nonetheless his arc is similarly amazing, filled with great shenanigans of the type that have always been so central to the character, but still continuing to develop him into a more mature person. If I have one complaint, it would be: needed more Hollyhock. But when she was involved, I do love how she was utilized this season. The scene early in the premiere when BoJack calls her in the middle of the night actually made me tear-up, it's probably the most wholesome scene in the series' entire run. She's become such an incredibly important part of this series, and I can only hope they continue to realize that potential in future seasons.
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Post by moonman157 on Sept 15, 2018 17:53:02 GMT
It's weird to me that people love 4 the most when it's so uneven. It has a few exceptional stand out episodes that are among the best of the series but it feels so dwarfed by season 3 to me that it's always odd when I hear people rave about 4. The dentist clown plotline in 4 in particular is absolutely abysmal, one of the worst threads of zaniness in the entire show imo.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Sept 17, 2018 16:29:41 GMT
First things first: Even though nearly every episode that both The Americans and Atlanta produced this year were absolute masterpieces, "Free Churro" has to be, without a doubt, the television episode of the year. It always blows me away how this writing staff has an uncanny ability to craft such unique individual episodes season after season. It can't be stressed enough how much Will Arnett deserves a freaking Emmy for this episode. (And we can't overlook how brilliant he is even in the cold opening. Butterscotch's "Thaaaank yooooouuu?" has to be one of the best delivered lines in this show's history.) And Bob-Waksberg's writing is in absolute top-form. Literally every bit of that episode is painfully insightful and totally heartbreaking. (Also: I love how the audience basically serves as an anti-laugh track.) Anyway ... I don't think this season tops season four. But that's not at all to discredit this season: the last one is a masterpiece that's basically impossible to top. (Then again, I didn't recognize the fourth season as the show's best after my first viewing, so perhaps this one will similarly grow on me even more with subsequent viewings. There's just so much to this show that you need to watch it again and again.) That being said, this season is sheer brilliance from start to finish. It's as hilarious as always, as heartbreaking as it's always been, and pushes into darker territory than maybe ever before, necessarily acknowledging the consequences of BoJack's actions and the true steps he needs to take to solve his problems. This season's social commentary in particular just blew me away. Obviously it's always been a staple of this show's brand, but they truly go above and beyond. I've long been wondering how this season was going to deal with the MeToo movement and the subsequent shake-up of Hollywoo(d), and it really went beyond my expectations. Naturally I'm referring to the hilarious "BoJack the Feminist" episode (one of the season's best), but the developments later in the season are just as good... especially the stuff with 'Henry Fondle'. (Leave it to this show to take a stupid joke and develop it into an ingenious social metaphor.) The way that this leads to BoJack being confronted with his own shitty behavior is not just intense, but so, so necessary and revealing. I reeally hope they do more with the incident with the Horsin' Around makeup artist in the future, it feels essential that that gets addressed.
And of course all the stuff revolving around Philbert was equally clever and hilarious. Rami Malek really knocks it out of the park in his role as Flip McVicker, as his character is developed as a much darker personality than I ever would have expected. It's not only great, characteristically-absurd commentary on the pretentious convolutions & "philosophy" of so-called prestige television, but is additionally revealing in the behind-the-camera antics and dramas of Flip and crew as the show-runner ruthlessly tries to realize his art ... it's depressing just how believable most of the behavior is. Then there's Diane's presence on the crew of the show, an utterly necessary addition as she brings attention to concepts of media normalization via the apparent "deconstruction" of toxic masculinity, and the way that she brings attention to it while grappling with the consequence of her own work is some truly on-point & relevant stuff. As always, the arcs of the supporting characters are just as good as the central storyline(s). As season four did so well, this time around there's also a handful of stellar episodes focusing on one of them -- "The Dog Days Are Over," "The Amelia Earhart Story," and "Mr. Peanutbutter's Boos" are all fantastic episodes that continue the poignant, insightful development of its characters. The follow-up to Princess Carolyn's heartbreaking fourth season arc is perfect, Diane has never been more fully-realized as a character, and neither has Mr. Peanutbutter, whose own behavior is necessarily taken into examination, begging the question what will it take for him to improve, especially given the infuriating (yet appropriate) place that he finishes this season. Todd is given much less dramatic weight than he was last season, but nonetheless his arc is similarly amazing, filled with great shenanigans of the type that have always been so central to the character, but still continuing to develop him into a more mature person. If I have one complaint, it would be: needed more Hollyhock. But when she was involved, I do love how she was utilized this season. The scene early in the premiere when BoJack calls her in the middle of the night actually made me tear-up, it's probably the most wholesome scene in the series' entire run. She's become such an incredibly important part of this series, and I can only hope they continue to realize that potential in future seasons. Remind me what was the "incident" with the make-up girl?? I just finished S5 yesterday but I can't remember that scene for the life of me.
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Post by DeepArcher on Sept 17, 2018 16:49:17 GMT
Remind me what was the "incident" with the make-up girl?? I just finished S5 yesterday but I can't remember that scene for the life of me. It's something that BoJack makes reference to when Diane confronts him after the Phlibert premiere, and Diane has an understandably adverse reaction to. Basically implies that there's more than we know to BoJack's history of sexual harassment, if not assault. I saw a recent interview with Bob-Waksberg in which he mentioned they'll elaborate upon it in the future, but now I can't find it, so maybe I'm just making things up ... still, it's something important that was only vaguely mentioned in passing, so I hope it's something they circle back to.
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