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Post by michael128 on Sept 7, 2017 2:39:36 GMT
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Post by iheartamyadams on Sept 7, 2017 3:41:44 GMT
I see nothing wrong with her response and I also don't remember Blanchett getting any shit for working with him recently. But I guess because Winslet isn't a web favourite, the Internet is prepping their selective outrage.
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Post by Zeb31 on Sept 7, 2017 3:53:09 GMT
Blanchett definitely did get shit about it back in the day, especially because Mia and Dylan's last major statement was put forth during the 2013 season, but it never really caught on beyond a handful of inflammatory articles because it's been 25 years since the scandal broke out and it's no longer a shock. There isn't much of a narrative there anymore.
Winslet's case is slightly different because she also worked with Polanski not too long ago (and unlike Allen, he's not to be presumed innocent), but it'll be the same with her.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Sept 7, 2017 10:49:43 GMT
I see nothing wrong with her response and I also don't remember Blanchett getting any shit for working with him recently. But I guess because Winslet isn't a web favourite, the Internet is prepping their selective outrage. Winslet is getting sh!t because she has also worked with Polanski. |
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Post by skibidido on Sept 7, 2017 11:56:09 GMT
There is a difference between someone who's accused of rape and someone who's convicted. In that sense, I agree with her. Polanski is a different thing and Hollywood people are way too forgiving about him imo.
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Post by iheartamyadams on Sept 7, 2017 14:58:49 GMT
I see nothing wrong with her response and I also don't remember Blanchett getting any shit for working with him recently. But I guess because Winslet isn't a web favourite, the Internet is prepping their selective outrage. Winslet is getting sh!t because she has also worked with Polanski. Save some outrage for her Wonder Wheel co-star James Belushi then, who has done the same! |
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Sept 7, 2017 17:12:03 GMT
Winslet is getting sh!t because she has also worked with Polanski. . By the way , as much as I despise Polanski as an human being , I wasn't trying to slam Winslet at all . I was just guessing why some people gave her so much sh!t , that's all. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 7, 2017 18:57:06 GMT
Separate artist from the Art.
Simplest thing, keeps you out of trouble because the world is a very complicated place ...........sigh. If Allen bothers someone, fine don't work with him.........same with Polanski.......that is a person's right, but....when it becomes a problem is when people want to TELL actors and other artists what they "should" do.........what they "should" feel.......
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Post by avnermoriarti on Sept 11, 2017 16:27:41 GMT
She's a wise woman.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Sept 12, 2017 1:51:33 GMT
She's an actress, and also Allen's only been accused of rape. I think her reasoning is completely fine.
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Post by stephen on Sept 12, 2017 1:55:00 GMT
Separate artist from the Art. Simplest thing, keeps you out of trouble because the world is a very complicated place ...........sigh. If Allen bothers someone, fine don't work with him.........same with Polanski.......that is a person's right, but....when it becomes a problem is when people want to TELL actors and other artists what they "should" do.........what they "should" feel....... Yeah, I'm inclined to agree with this. If an actor wants to work with an artist or agrees to do so, that's fine. They shouldn't have to justify it to anyone (especially as, in Allen's case, it's simply an allegation), as it puts them in an awkward position of having to defend their own choice beyond a simple artistic/career move. |
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Post by cherry68 on Sept 12, 2017 4:41:24 GMT
Allen might be innocent until proven guilty, but Polanski escaped from his prison sentence. Would you work with a criminal who lives abroad to avoid justice?
I just don't understand why Polanski is getting a free pass for pedophilia.
Winona Ryder got much more criticism for shoplifting.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Sept 12, 2017 8:14:36 GMT
Allen might be innocent until proven guilty, but Polanski escaped from his prison sentence. Would you work with a criminal who lives abroad to avoid justice? I just don't understand why Polanski is getting a free pass for pedophilia. Winona Ryder got much more criticism for shoplifting. I also believe that one of the main reasons that some people are so "understanding"(sort of speak) of Polanski and willing to give him a free pass is because : 1/ He's a Holocaust survivor 2/His wife + unborn child have been brutally murdered So some people are willing to forgive him because of all the pain that he has gone through in life . |
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 12, 2017 8:53:22 GMT
@ cherryred:
"Allen might be innocent until proven guilty, but Polanski escaped from his prison sentence."
He also served a prison sentence though which was minor but in keeping with the one charge (one count only, no previous criminal record) he was facing which was "unlawful sexual intercourse". Now that time was minor (42 days) but it also was in keeping with the courts psychological recommendation and what other people the previous 2 years to Polanski got in LA County at the time got (no jail time). You have to remember to go by 1977 law not what he'd "get now".
In the great film "Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired" you clearly see the difference between the crime (awful) and his arrest and handling (awful in its own way)...........no one excuses his crime at all, it's his judicial mistreatment rather that bothers them however.
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Post by cherry68 on Sept 12, 2017 13:30:37 GMT
pacinoyesHe was sentenced to 90 days, released after 42 and sent back to the court for further evaluation. Once he realized the judge would have sent him back to jail, he ran away from the US and never came back. As long as I know, he hasn't served his full sentence, however mild it was.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 12, 2017 13:59:42 GMT
pacinoyes He was sentenced to 90 days, released after 42 and sent back to the court for further evaluation. Once he realized the judge would have sent him back to jail, he ran away from the US and never came back. As long as I know, he hasn't served his full sentence, however mild it was. Yes, that's the reason some people don't think of Polanski as a criminal (and the Swiss refused to extradite him at least partially, legally on this ground) so to those people he's "right" for not returning to serve a sentence that came down in absentia. To them "once the judge would have sent him back to jail" is the problem. It's confusing and filled with legalese and people get all upset about it but it's important to remember that no sane person really forgives the crime itself and that's how and why people can and do work with Polanski. I really recommend the film Roman Polanski : Wanted and Desired for anyone who wants to know the cases (the two distinct cases) in a clear, uncluttered way. |
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Post by stephen on Sept 12, 2017 16:55:05 GMT
Allen might be innocent until proven guilty, but Polanski escaped from his prison sentence. Would you work with a criminal who lives abroad to avoid justice? I just don't understand why Polanski is getting a free pass for pedophilia. Winona Ryder got much more criticism for shoplifting. Polanski doesn't so much get a "free pass" as much as people remark that there was a miscarriage of justice done in his case. The judge reneged on his plea bargain after it had already been agreed upon and Polanski had spent time in jail for it. Regardless of what one thinks about the crime or about how little time Polanski spent in jail as punishment, the judge did overstep his boundaries. |
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Post by countjohn on Nov 3, 2017 22:39:31 GMT
There is a difference between someone who's accused of rape and someone who's convicted. In that sense, I agree with her. Polanski is a different thing and Hollywood people are way too forgiving about him imo. Agree, Allen shouldn't be lumped in with Polanski/Weinstein et al. It is a black cloud over him and it has effected my enjoyment of his movies a little bit, but it is one single allegation that has some legitimate questions around it, so I'm not going to assume he did it and factually label him a rapist, while also not assuming he didn't do it. I thought earlier that it will be interesting to see if anything else comes out about him in the coming weeks/months as all this continues. |
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Nov 5, 2017 10:35:23 GMT
Again, Polanski was never promised a sentence in his plea deal. He acknowledged that there was no promise of a sentence and a judge isn't bound by a plea deal anyway, so I don't feel bad for him in the legal sense at all. And one of the prosecutors admitted that he flat-out lied throughout that Polanski: Wanted and Desired documentary just to make it more interesting to please the filmmakers, so I'm not sure how credible it is now.
But to stay on topic, because of my separate the art from the artist philosophy, I side-eye all those people that signed that petition for Polanski more than Kate Winslet for working with him. For instance, why did Natalie Portman who likes to be so self-righteous about so many issues sign that petition? I think it was because of some Hollywood/Jewish allegiance.
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