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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jul 12, 2017 17:43:52 GMT
Even though I like Tarantino, this is way too a serious of a subject for it work with him at the helm. HMM!!!
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 12, 2017 18:02:56 GMT
On paper, this is a big mistake, there's no room for inside baseball Tarantino-isms here it's a straight tragedy and that's it - but it could be a chance to step up and shut people up too. I love his first two films and nothing else he's done measures up imo and I don't agree he became more complex with later films .......but I so love what he was, how he shook up cinema and creatively played with character, arc and timeline, I'm at least intrigued.
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Post by Pavan on Jul 12, 2017 18:32:04 GMT
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Post by Martin Stett on Jul 12, 2017 18:51:56 GMT
There are two questions to ask here.
1. Can Tarantino step into David Fincher territory and create a respectful, powerful tragic work? 2. Is Tarantino willing to step into David Fincher territory and create a respectful, powerful tragic work?
I believe that the answer to the second is "yes." I can understand complaints about TH8. Indeed, they are well founded, and Tarantino got his head up his ass for several scenes in the movie. But I think its heart was in the right place, and although it gets muddied up, Tarantino wanted to create a look at today's race relations through the prism of post Civil-war America.
The trouble was in the execution. It got too caught up in the murder mystery elements, the Mexican standoff elements, the ultraviolent slo-mo elements. As much fun as the movie was, it lost track of its purpose and simply became an excellent genre movie that hints at the themes it wants to explore instead of diving into them and really questioning the beliefs of the eight characters and why they think the way they do.
I think that Tarantino understood what he wanted to do, and didn't achieve that.
But can he do it here? Tarantino has always been a pulpy hybrid filmmaker (I stick by that for his early movies as much as his post Kill Bill films), a Frankenstein making his movies out of spare parts and seeing what sticks. But a movie about Manson...
That requires a hand that 100% knows and believes what he intends to do. There's no room for a Frankenstein. And tbh, I'm not sure he can stop being Tarantino long enough to do this.
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Post by wonky on Jul 12, 2017 20:43:29 GMT
Agree with both the misgivings and cautious optimism in this thread. We'll see.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Jul 12, 2017 20:48:07 GMT
Not sure how to feel. Subject matter doesn't seem like a fit for him. But it's still Quentin, and I trust him.
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Post by BlackCaesar21 on Jul 13, 2017 1:53:56 GMT
Just to get folks more excited... QT apparently had dinner with Leo and Al Pacino yesterday in LA....... yeah but who could Al Pacino play?
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Post by Mattsby on Jul 13, 2017 2:03:55 GMT
Just to get folks more excited... QT apparently had dinner with Leo and Al Pacino yesterday in LA....... yeah but who could Al Pacino play? Well, I'm not sure. We don't even really have a premise yet. But it seems the Manson court case will play a part, so maybe the judge Charles Older (who Manson attacked at one time during the trial). Idk! ~ We dooo know QT wants to work with Pacino and has been seen with him a couple times lately.
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Post by alexanderblanchett on Jul 13, 2017 19:15:10 GMT
I am SO in for that.
I also once wrote a screenplay about that case… called "Cielo Drive" it was out of the perspective of both Tate and Manson….one of them rising to stardom and being privileged, the other one rising to pure madness and coming from the dirtiest corners of society… and those opposite worlds that more or less collided that fateful night in August 69. It always fascinated me in some ways, especially because in the end it was so painfully random. I really look forward to what Tarantino does with it.
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Post by getclutch on Jul 13, 2017 20:58:31 GMT
Think I'd rather have Jeremy Saulnier take this project. However, I'll watch any movie QT makes.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jul 13, 2017 22:41:39 GMT
Walton Goggins for this please.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Jul 15, 2017 23:54:19 GMT
LMFAO, then that's 1+ point for Q.T. & this project!! Best thing I've ever heard about this project thus far. Anything that dissapoints you or makes you unhappy is automatically GOOD & means the artist (or the boyfriend, or the mugger, or the proctologist) is doing their job and is a patriot! If Armond White was a snobbish SJW self-righteous queen instead of a snobbish RWNJ self-righteous queen, you'd be his CLONE.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Jul 15, 2017 23:55:34 GMT
On paper, this is a big mistake, there's no room for inside baseball Tarantino-isms here it's a straight tragedy and that's it - but it could be a chance to step up and shut people up too. I love his first two films and nothing else he's done measures up imo and I don't agree he became more complex with later films .......but I so love what he was, how he shook up cinema and creatively played with character, arc and timeline, I'm at least intrigued. if you only like his 1st 2 films, then you're not a reliable judge on what he needs to do or not do.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 1:47:39 GMT
I am 100% onboard with this.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Jul 18, 2017 6:00:48 GMT
I don't like the idea of Tarantino at the helm because that could potentially mean a really tasteless take on something very tragic. The man just can't help but stamp his own quirks and trademarks in to his films, no matter the subject. And no Tarantino, making Sharon Tate a badass is not going to make what you're doing acceptable.
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Post by harlequinade on Jul 18, 2017 15:00:09 GMT
I just hope Robbie plays Tate. There won't be anything more tasteless than Lawrence playing her and talking about pissing and scratching her ass the entire promo tour.
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Post by cheesecake on Jul 19, 2017 4:10:42 GMT
I hate everything about this.
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Post by eyebrowmorroco on Jul 19, 2017 15:52:53 GMT
Robert Pattinson into Robert De Niro, and Keira Knightley.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Jul 19, 2017 23:44:16 GMT
I hate everything about this. I hate everything about YOUR shitty tastes! And this isn't me acting like a Nolanite cuz I'm a QT fanboy, I've seen your little opinions on many other movies/TV & you are almost always DEAD WRONG with nothing to back you up.
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Post by cheesecake on Jul 20, 2017 14:37:39 GMT
I hate everything about this. I hate everything about YOUR shitty tastes! And this isn't me acting like a Nolanite cuz I'm a QT fanboy, I've seen your little opinions on many other movies/TV & you are almost always DEAD WRONG with nothing to back you up. lol.
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Post by dazed on Aug 30, 2017 23:06:27 GMT
If this ends up happening, hopefully Pattinson is casted as Manson. I just watched the Good Time trailer, and he certainly has the look.
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Post by taranofprydain on Sept 3, 2017 1:26:20 GMT
I still think that this sounds like a tasteless project.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 3:40:00 GMT
I'm excited for this tbh
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Nov 2, 2017 14:17:31 GMT
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Post by dazed on Nov 2, 2017 15:16:31 GMT
Hopefully A24 picks it up. I’d love Tarantino to pair with that studio.
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