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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 0:55:16 GMT
One of the most beautiful prose that I have read since The Great Gatsy.
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Post by Martin Stett on Oct 28, 2019 1:48:24 GMT
Smiley's People.
Off to a very involving start. I was worried after The Honourable Schoolboy got too cluttered for its own good, but this seems much more pared down and sharp.
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Post by jimmalone on Oct 28, 2019 10:36:04 GMT
Smiley's People. Off to a very involving start. I was worried after The Honourable Schoolboy got too cluttered for its own good, but this seems much more pared down and sharp. Still haven't read "Honourable Schoolboy", but "Smiley's People" is my favourite Le Carre novel (read about 10 or 12).
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Post by Martin Stett on Oct 28, 2019 11:50:18 GMT
Smiley's People. Off to a very involving start. I was worried after The Honourable Schoolboy got too cluttered for its own good, but this seems much more pared down and sharp. Still haven't read "Honourable Schoolboy", but "Smiley's People" is my favourite Le Carre novel (read about 10 or 12). He said himself that it would have been improved by removing Smiley completely, and I tend to agree with him. Smiley felt shoehorned in to a different story. Both were fine, neither spectacular, but they got in each other's way.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 1:10:19 GMT
Wasn’t a big fan of House of Leaves, unfortunately - I did like some of the creepier parts (Navidson Record >>>>> Truant), but the whole book lacked any kind of real subtlety to an almost aggravating extent, because the potential’s clearly there (and Easter eggs are cool and all but didn’t do much for me here)...and a few sections of it sort of read like it was written by a Redditor who finds themselves very clever.
Not sure what I’ll pick up next, maybe Middlemarch.
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Post by jimmalone on Oct 29, 2019 9:01:07 GMT
One of the most beautiful prose that I have read since The Great Gatsy. Still haven't read this, but this is one of the books I want to take on very soon. Without having read it I recommend you "Arch of Triumph" by the very same author. My favourite Remarque book so far, really loved it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 0:17:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 0:26:41 GMT
jimmalone I finished reading it this morning, and got out my poppy for Remembrance Day. Remarque has a lot of good books worth reading.
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 31, 2019 9:14:23 GMT
Picked this up yesterday - it's a behemoth - nearly 800 pages so far insanely detailed and some of this is insightful in how it links his causes to his Art. The cover photo is amazing like a scared animal, cornered, possibly dangerous. The Contender - William J. Mann
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Post by mhynson27 on Oct 31, 2019 11:36:20 GMT
Not even going to lie, haven't read a book since I finished High School 4 years ago but I'm finally slowly getting back on the horse with a graphic novel, Watchmen.
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Post by TerryMontana on Oct 31, 2019 12:46:48 GMT
Not even going to lie, haven't read a book since I finished High School 4 years ago but I'm finally slowly getting back on the horse with a graphic novel, Watchmen. Iirc, the movie is exactly like the graphic novel, except for one page which it was a wise decision they didn't include in the final film.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2019 19:16:36 GMT
Not even going to lie, haven't read a book since I finished High School 4 years ago but I'm finally slowly getting back on the horse with a graphic novel, Watchmen. I like the movie a good deal but the comic is even better.
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Post by evilbliss on Oct 31, 2019 20:18:02 GMT
Not even going to lie, haven't read a book since I finished High School 4 years ago but I'm finally slowly getting back on the horse with a graphic novel, Watchmen. Iirc, the movie is exactly like the graphic novel, except for one page which it was a wise decision they didn't include in the final film. What page?
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Post by TerryMontana on Oct 31, 2019 21:19:36 GMT
Iirc, the movie is exactly like the graphic novel, except for one page which it was a wise decision they didn't include in the final film. What page? I think it was the one showing the alien invasion on Earth .
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Post by jimmalone on Nov 1, 2019 14:39:40 GMT
Something totally different: a few comedies by Aristophanes. Read "The Acharnians", now there are also "The Knights" and "The Clouds" in the book I found.
I was a bit surprised how profane language and style are often and how full of insults this play is, most of them very open and not subtle at all. But on the other hand why should the taste of the masses have changed over the last two thousand years? But of course there also many very amusing and nicely set lines, full of sharp irony and some quite funny and grotesque scenes included. Most of the ridicule and verbal attacks are aimed at the policy and politicians, especially at attic leader Kleon (who, so far at least my knowledge of ancient greece goes, was, concerning his policy a predecessor of Trump), therefore a far more detailed knowledge of happenings of this time and place would be very helpful.
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Post by TerryMontana on Nov 1, 2019 17:19:12 GMT
Something totally different: a few comedies by Aristophanes. Read "The Acharnians", now there are also "The Knights" and "The Clouds" in the book I found. I was a bit surprised how profane language and style are often and how full of insults this play is, most of them very open and not subtle at all. But on the other hand why should the taste of the masses have changed over the last two thousand years? But of course there also many very amusing and nicely set lines, full of sharp irony and some quite funny and grotesque scenes included. Most of the ridicule and verbal attacks are aimed at the policy and politicians, especially at attic leader Kleon (who, so far at least my knowledge of ancient greece goes, was, concerning his policy a predecessor of Trump), therefore a far more detailed knowledge of happenings of this time and place would be very helpful. Kleon was a military general and aristocrat who later on, as a politician, fought the then political leader Pericles (a known democrat). When he became the Athens leader, he was known for his "McCarthyism" tactics. In their plays and manuscripts, both Aristophanes and the historian Thucydides were very critical of his leadership. As for Aristophanes, I've read a lot of his work (not the Knights iirc) and I found it really funny. He was very well known for his profanity and irony. The language he used was very offensive. Of course it helped I had been tought (in school) about the ancient Greek times, their morals and customs, their beliefs etc. But either way, he is considered the father of Greek comedy and satire.
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Post by jimmalone on Nov 2, 2019 14:49:49 GMT
Something totally different: a few comedies by Aristophanes. Read "The Acharnians", now there are also "The Knights" and "The Clouds" in the book I found. I was a bit surprised how profane language and style are often and how full of insults this play is, most of them very open and not subtle at all. But on the other hand why should the taste of the masses have changed over the last two thousand years? But of course there also many very amusing and nicely set lines, full of sharp irony and some quite funny and grotesque scenes included. Most of the ridicule and verbal attacks are aimed at the policy and politicians, especially at attic leader Kleon (who, so far at least my knowledge of ancient greece goes, was, concerning his policy a predecessor of Trump), therefore a far more detailed knowledge of happenings of this time and place would be very helpful. Kleon was a military general and aristocrat who later on, as a politician, fought the then political leader Pericles (a known democrat). When he became the Athens leader, he was known for his "McCarthyism" tactics. In their plays and manuscripts, both Aristophanes and the historian Thucydides were very critical of his leadership. As for Aristophanes, I've read a lot of his work (not the Knights iirc) and I found it really funny. He was very well known for his profanity and irony. The language he used was very offensive. Of course it helped I had been tought (in school) about the ancient Greek times, their morals and customs, their beliefs etc. But either way, he is considered the father of Greek comedy and satire. Yeah, I think the Peloponnesian War and especially its background politics with the rivalries and opposed morals and politics between Kleon and Nicias in Athens would make a really good film or novel. Pretty sure the latter at least exist, but I haven't read one so far.
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Post by TerryMontana on Nov 2, 2019 15:57:58 GMT
Kleon was a military general and aristocrat who later on, as a politician, fought the then political leader Pericles (a known democrat). When he became the Athens leader, he was known for his "McCarthyism" tactics. In their plays and manuscripts, both Aristophanes and the historian Thucydides were very critical of his leadership. As for Aristophanes, I've read a lot of his work (not the Knights iirc) and I found it really funny. He was very well known for his profanity and irony. The language he used was very offensive. Of course it helped I had been tought (in school) about the ancient Greek times, their morals and customs, their beliefs etc. But either way, he is considered the father of Greek comedy and satire. Yeah, I think the Peloponnesian War and especially its background politics with the rivalries and opposed morals and politics between Kleon and Nicias in Athens would make a really good film or novel. Pretty sure the latter at least exist, but I haven't read one so far.
Almost every political plot and battle of the Peloponnesian War would make a great film!! I'm pretty sure there are quite a feq movies and novels about that war but I've never seen or read anything. In fact, there are many historic books about it (Greek mostly) and I've read one or two but no novels.
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Post by cheesecake on Nov 2, 2019 16:20:04 GMT
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Post by Sharbs on Nov 3, 2019 4:27:39 GMT
Halfway though Motherless Brooklyn and I'm loving the hell out of it so far. I have this gross feeling that movie won't come close to this and that the adaptation will be flashback-heavy based on the sequencing of the book
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 1:20:10 GMT
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Post by Martin Stett on Nov 4, 2019 2:10:02 GMT
Something totally different: a few comedies by Aristophanes. Read "The Acharnians", now there are also "The Knights" and "The Clouds" in the book I found. I was a bit surprised how profane language and style are often and how full of insults this play is, most of them very open and not subtle at all. But on the other hand why should the taste of the masses have changed over the last two thousand years?
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Post by DeepArcher on Nov 4, 2019 5:54:44 GMT
Piggybacking off of Sharbs last thing I finished was Lethem's Motherless Brooklyn before seeing Norton's film (hopefully) soon though I'm starting to think I might miss it in theaters because I just don't have the time. Anyway, really liked it but wasn't head over heels or anything. I don't know much about Tourette's so certainly can't speak to the accuracy of Lethem's representation, but it does seem believable unlike most depictions of Tourette's that I've seen -- but that said it does always feel like Lionel as a character is entirely defined by Tourette's and the two become inseparable, hell even the book itself kinda becomes inseparable from it and just sort of rides that concept to cover up its lack of a compelling mystery. Which speaking of, yeah, the mystery element kinda sucks. I know I've seen some comparisons of the film to Inherent Vice and I gotta say this book reminded me a bit of Inherent Vice the novel just not nearly as good -- "subversive" detective story riddled with pop culture references whose mystery is deliberately convoluted and hardly ever really solved. But Motherless Brooklyn still gives you these exposition dumps and yet they don't even make anything make sense, if anything it just gets *more* confusing. Uhhh anyway ... I do think Lethem's prose is strong and engaging and keeps it always entertaining, even when it gets bogged down by its own narrative or its interchangeable stock supporting characters. A solid read that I could see a film adaptation improving upon much.
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Post by evilbliss on Nov 4, 2019 11:54:14 GMT
I heard wonders about this book. Is it good?
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Post by Deceit on Nov 4, 2019 16:56:16 GMT
The Opposing Shore
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