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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 11, 2024 18:25:21 GMT
how do you think they stack up?
Picture: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Director: Daniels vs Nolan Actor: Brendan Fraser vs Cillian Murphy Actress: Michelle Yeoh vs Emma Stone Supporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan vs Robert Downey Jr. Supporting Actress: Jamie Lee Curtis vs. Da'Vine Joy Randolph Original Screenplay: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Anatomy of a Fall Adapted Screenplay: Women Talking vs American Fiction
Animated Film: Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio vs The Boy and the Heron International Film: All Quiet on the Western Front vs The Zone of Interest Documentary: Navalny vs 20 Days in Mariupol
Original Score: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Original Song: "Naatu Naatu" vs "What Was I Made For?" Sound: Top Gun: Maverick vs The Zone of Interest
Production Design: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Poor Things Cinematography: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Makeup & Hair: The Whale vs Poor Things Costume Design: Black Panther Wakanda Forever vs Poor Things Film Editing: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Visual Effects: Avatar The Way of Water vs Godzilla Minus One
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Mar 11, 2024 18:25:51 GMT
lol
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Post by Kings_Requiem on Mar 11, 2024 18:31:44 GMT
Picture: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Director: Daniels vs Nolan Actor: Brendan Fraser vs Cillian Murphy Actress: Michelle Yeoh vs Emma Stone Supporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan vs Robert Downey Jr. Supporting Actress: Jamie Lee Curtis vs. Da'Vine Joy Randolph Original Screenplay: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Anatomy of a Fall Adapted Screenplay: Women Talking vs American Fiction
Animated Film: Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio vs The Boy and the Heron International Film: All Quiet on the Western Front vs The Zone of Interest Documentary: Navalny vs 20 Days in Mariupol
Original Score: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Original Song: "Naatu Naatu" vs "What Was I Made For?" Sound: Top Gun: Maverick vs The Zone of Interest
Production Design: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Poor Things Cinematography: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Makeup & Hair: The Whale vs Poor Things Costume Design: Black Panther Wakanda Forever vs Poor Things Film Editing: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Visual Effects: Avatar The Way of Water vs Godzilla Minus One
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 11, 2024 18:31:53 GMT
I liked EEAAO more than most of the grumpy old bastards on this board so I didn't mind its dominance last year outside of Curtis, and looking back at the list of 2023 winners the only ones that stand out as truly embarrassing are the Whale wins. Last night had no big misses at all IMO and most of the surprises were pleasant ones. And even though not all my favs in their categories won, I can't fault any of the winners last night. Truly outstanding picks.
Picture: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Director: Daniels vs Nolan Actor: Brendan Fraser vs Cillian Murphy Actress: Michelle Yeoh vs Emma Stone Supporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan vs Robert Downey Jr. Supporting Actress: Jamie Lee Curtis vs. Da'Vine Joy Randolph Original Screenplay: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Anatomy of a Fall Adapted Screenplay: Women Talking vs American Fiction
Animated Film: Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio vs The Boy and the Heron International Film: All Quiet on the Western Front vs The Zone of Interest Documentary: Navalny vs 20 Days in Mariupol
Original Score: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Original Song: "Naatu Naatu" vs "What Was I Made For?" Sound: Top Gun: Maverick vs The Zone of Interest
Production Design: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Poor Things Cinematography: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Makeup & Hair: The Whale vs Poor Things (lol) Costume Design: Black Panther Wakanda Forever vs Poor Things Film Editing: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer
NS Godzilla unfortunately, though I seriously doubt its VFX were better than Avatar's
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Post by Pavan on Mar 11, 2024 18:33:52 GMT
Picture: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Director: Daniels vs Nolan Actor: Brendan Fraser vs Cillian Murphy Actress: Michelle Yeoh vs Emma Stone Supporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan vs Robert Downey Jr. (pretty close this one) Supporting Actress: Jamie Lee Curtis vs. Da'Vine Joy Randolph Original Screenplay: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Anatomy of a Fall Adapted Screenplay: Women Talking vs American Fiction Animated Film: Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio vs The Boy and the Heron (N/S) International Film: All Quiet on the Western Front vs The Zone of Interest Documentary: Navalny vs 20 Days in Mariupol (N/S) Original Score: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Original Song: "Naatu Naatu" vs "What Was I Made For?" (a little biased) Sound: Top Gun: Maverick vs The Zone of Interest Production Design: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Poor Things Cinematography: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Makeup & Hair: The Whale vs Poor Things Costume Design: Black Panther Wakanda Forever vs Poor Things Film Editing: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Visual Effects: Avatar The Way of Water vs Godzilla Minus One (N/S)
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Post by stephen on Mar 11, 2024 18:50:32 GMT
This is like pistol-whipping a blind kid.
Best Picture: Oppenheimer Best Director: Nolan Best Actor: Murphy Best Actress: Stone Best Supporting Actor: Quan, but it's close Best Supporting Actress: Randolph Best Original Screenplay: Anatomy of a Fall Best Adapted Screenplay: American Fiction Best Cinematography: All Quiet on the Western Front Best Production Design: Poor Things Best Costume Design: Poor Things Best Makeup and Hairstyling: Poor Things Best Visual Effects: Avatar: The Way of Water Best Sound: Top Gun: Maverick Best Editing: Oppenheimer Best Score: All Quiet on the Western Front Best Song: "Naatu Naatu" ~ RRR
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Post by JangoB on Mar 11, 2024 19:05:45 GMT
Pardon. Picture: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Director: Daniels vs Nolan Actor: Brendan Fraser vs Cillian Murphy Actress: Michelle Yeoh vs Emma StoneSupporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan vs Robert Downey Jr.Supporting Actress: Jamie Lee Curtis vs. Da'Vine Joy Randolph Original Screenplay: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Anatomy of a FallAdapted Screenplay: Women Talking vs American FictionAnimated Film: Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio vs The Boy and the HeronInternational Film: All Quiet on the Western Front vs The Zone of Interest Original Score: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Original Song: "Naatu Naatu" vs "What Was I Made For?" (the latter is very good though) Sound: Top Gun: Maverick vs The Zone of Interest (both excellento) Production Design: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Poor ThingsCinematography: All Quiet on the Western Front vs OppenheimerMakeup & Hair: The Whale vs Poor ThingsCostume Design: Black Panther Wakanda Forever vs Poor ThingsFilm Editing: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer
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Post by paulgallo on Mar 11, 2024 19:24:15 GMT
Picture: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Director: Daniels vs Nolan Actor: Brendan Fraser vs Cillian Murphy Actress: Michelle Yeoh vs Emma Stone Supporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan vs Robert Downey Jr. Supporting Actress: Jamie Lee Curtis vs. Da'Vine Joy Randolph Original Screenplay: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Anatomy of a Fall Adapted Screenplay: Women Talking vs American Fiction
Animated Film: Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio vs The Boy and the Heron (N/S) International Film: All Quiet on the Western Front vs The Zone of Interest Documentary: Navalny vs 20 Days in Mariupol (N/S)
Original Score: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Original Song: "Naatu Naatu" vs "What Was I Made For?" Sound: Top Gun: Maverick vs The Zone of Interest
Production Design: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Poor Things Cinematography: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Makeup & Hair: The Whale vs Poor Things Costume Design: Black Panther Wakanda Forever vs Poor Things Film Editing: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Visual Effects: Avatar The Way of Water vs Godzilla Minus One
While 2023 was clearly the better year the Academy choices make 2022 look worse than it was. Winners like Tar in Best Picture, Bardo in cinematography or Babylon in score would have scored wins against their 2023 counterparts but for some reason last year the Academy decided to make the wrong pick in literally every category bar Visual Effects. Happy to see that they got their senses back this year.
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Post by finniussnrub on Mar 11, 2024 19:39:42 GMT
Picture: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs OppenheimerDirector: Daniels vs NolanActor: Brendan Fraser vs Cillian MurphyActress: Michelle Yeoh vs Emma StoneSupporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan vs Robert Downey Jr. Supporting Actress: Jamie Lee Curtis vs. Da'Vine Joy RandolphOriginal Screenplay: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Anatomy of a Fall Adapted Screenplay: Women Talking vs American FictionAnimated Film: Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio vs The Boy and the HeronInternational Film: All Quiet on the Western Front vs The Zone of Interest Original Score: All Quiet on the Western Front vs OppenheimerOriginal Song: "Naatu Naatu" vs "What Was I Made For?" Sound: Top Gun: Maverick vs The Zone of Interest Production Design: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Poor ThingsCinematography: All Quiet on the Western Front vs OppenheimerMakeup & Hair: The Whale vs Poor ThingsCostume Design: Black Panther Wakanda Forever vs Poor ThingsFilm Editing: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs OppenheimerVisual Effects: Avatar The Way of Water vs Godzilla Minus One
5 to 13, 2024 with ease.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Mar 11, 2024 20:09:37 GMT
2024 for everything except Animated Film, Documentary, and Visual Effects because I haven't seen all those nominees.
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Post by dadsburgers on Mar 11, 2024 20:44:46 GMT
Picture: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Director: Daniels vs Nolan Actor: Brendan Fraser vs Cillian Murphy Actress: Michelle Yeoh vs Emma Stone Supporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan vs Robert Downey Jr. Supporting Actress: Jamie Lee Curtis vs. Da'Vine Joy Randolph Original Screenplay: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Anatomy of a Fall
International Film: All Quiet on the Western Front vs The Zone of Interest
Original Score: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Original Song: "Naatu Naatu" vs "What Was I Made For?"
Production Design: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Poor Things Cinematography: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Makeup & Hair: The Whale vs Poor Things Film Editing: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer
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Post by bigmilko on Mar 11, 2024 20:59:53 GMT
Picture: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Director: Daniels vs Nolan Actor: Brendan Fraser vs Cillian Murphy Actress: Michelle Yeoh vs Emma Stone Supporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan vs Robert Downey Jr. Supporting Actress: Jamie Lee Curtis vs. Da'Vine Joy Randolph lmao Original Screenplay: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Anatomy of a Fall Adapted Screenplay: Women Talking vs American Fiction (havent seen American Fiction)
Animated Film: Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio vs The Boy and the Heron International Film: All Quiet on the Western Front vs The Zone of Interest
Original Score: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Original Song: "Naatu Naatu" vs "What Was I Made For?" Sound: Top Gun: Maverick vs The Zone of Interest
Production Design: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Poor Things Cinematography: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Makeup & Hair: The Whale vs Poor Things Costume Design: Black Panther Wakanda Forever vs Poor Things Film Editing: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Visual Effects: Avatar The Way of Water vs Godzilla Minus One
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Post by countjohn on Mar 11, 2024 21:15:49 GMT
Picture: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer
Director: Daniels vs Nolan
Actor: Brendan Fraser vs Cillian Murphy
Actress: Michelle Yeoh vs Emma Stone
Supporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan vs Robert Downey Jr.
Supporting Actress: Jamie Lee Curtis vs. Da'Vine Joy Randolph
Original Screenplay: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Anatomy of a Fall (NS Anatomy of a Fall) Adapted Screenplay: Women Talking vs American Fiction
International Film: All Quiet on the Western Front vs The Zone of Interest
Original Score: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Sound: Top Gun: Maverick vs The Zone of Interest
Production Design: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Poor Things
Cinematography: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer
Makeup & Hair: The Whale vs Poor Things
Costume Design: Black Panther Wakanda Forever vs Poor Things (NS Wakanda) Film Editing: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer
Visual Effects: Avatar The Way of Water vs Godzilla Minus One (NS Avatar but am almost sure I'd go with Godzilla here)
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Post by tylosaur on Mar 11, 2024 21:21:44 GMT
2024 for everything except Song and Visual Effects.
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Post by countjohn on Mar 11, 2024 21:24:50 GMT
So I'm assuming with the comments here most people were happy about 2023 as a year for movies? To me it's the best since at least 2015, if not 2010. Can actually make a full top ten with several HM's that I feel really good about.
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Post by Lord_Buscemi on Mar 11, 2024 21:29:47 GMT
So I'm assuming with the comments here most people were happy about 2023 as a year for movies? To me it's the best since at least 2015, if not 2010. Can actually make a full top ten with several HM's that I feel really good about. I've still got some stuff to catch up on for 2023, but I doubt it could surpass 2019. Best year in recent memory for me, with 2016 as a second.
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Post by speeders on Mar 11, 2024 21:41:16 GMT
Picture: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Director: Daniels vs Nolan Actor: Brendan Fraser vs Cillian Murphy Actress: Michelle Yeoh vs Emma Stone Supporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan vs Robert Downey Jr. Supporting Actress: Jamie Lee Curtis vs. Da'Vine Joy Randolph Original Screenplay: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Anatomy of a Fall Adapted Screenplay: Women Talking vs American Fiction
Original Score: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer
Production Design: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Poor Things Cinematography: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Makeup & Hair: The Whale vs Poor Things Costume Design: Black Panther Wakanda Forever vs Poor Things Film Editing: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer
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Post by Nikan on Mar 11, 2024 22:24:09 GMT
Picture: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Director: Daniels vs Nolan Actress: Michelle Yeoh vs Emma Stone Supporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan vs Robert Downey Jr. Film Editing: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer
Yeah I don't watch everything #getalifelosers.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Mar 11, 2024 22:24:31 GMT
Picture: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Director: Daniels vs Nolan Actor: Brendan Fraser vs Cillian Murphy Actress: Michelle Yeoh vs Emma Stone Supporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan vs Robert Downey Jr. Supporting Actress: Jamie Lee Curtis vs. Da'Vine Joy Randolph Original Screenplay: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Anatomy of a Fall Adapted Screenplay: Women Talking vs American Fiction
Animated Film: Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio vs The Boy and the Heron International Film: All Quiet on the Western Front vs The Zone of Interest
Original Score: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Original Song: "Naatu Naatu" vs "What Was I Made For?" Sound: Top Gun: Maverick vs The Zone of Interest
Production Design: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Poor Things Cinematography: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Makeup & Hair: The Whale vs Poor Things Costume Design: Black Panther Wakanda Forever vs Poor Things Film Editing: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Visual Effects: Avatar The Way of Water vs Godzilla Minus One
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Post by Steve17 on Mar 11, 2024 23:46:04 GMT
Everything Everywhere All At Once Kwan and Scheinert Haven't seen The Whale Yeoh Quan Randolph Haven't seen Anatomy of a Fall Haven't seen Women Talking
Haven't seen The Boy and the Heron Haven't seen either Haven't seen either
Haven't seen All Quiet on the Western Front Haven't seen RRR Haven't seen The Zone of Interest
Costume: Black Panther Wakanda Forever Editing: Everything Everywhere All at Once
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Post by tep on Mar 11, 2024 23:51:14 GMT
Picture: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Director: Daniels vs Nolan Actor: Brendan Fraser vs Cillian Murphy Actress: Michelle Yeoh vs Emma Stone Supporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan vs Robert Downey Jr. Supporting Actress: Jamie Lee Curtis vs. Da'Vine Joy Randolph Original Screenplay: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Anatomy of a Fall Adapted Screenplay: Women Talking vs American Fiction
Animated Film: Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio vs The Boy and the Heron International Film: All Quiet on the Western Front vs The Zone of Interest
Original Score: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Original Song: "Naatu Naatu" vs "What Was I Made For?" Sound: Top Gun: Maverick vs The Zone of Interest
Production Design: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Poor Things Cinematography: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Makeup & Hair: The Whale vs Poor Things Film Editing: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Visual Effects: Avatar The Way of Water vs Godzilla Minus One
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Post by stabcaesar on Mar 12, 2024 1:21:02 GMT
Picture: Oppenheimer is comically overpraised just like EEAAO was, but it is the stronger film. Director: I prefer Nolan to the Daniels, but he's like 3rd or 4th amongst the nominees for me so he's not that much better either. Actor: Well now this is a slam dunk ... Murphy by far, even though I do find him insanely overpraised. Actress: I prefer Emma Stone but not by a huge margin. Supporting Actor: I guess Quan, but this one is close and I actually don't love either of them. Both are merely solid wins imo. Supporting Actress: Randolph. Original Screenplay: This is also very close because I am not a fan of either. I guess EEAAO. Adapted Screenplay: Another close one. I like Women Talking, but American Fiction is a tad stronger.
Animated Film: The Boy and the Heron easily. I haaaaaaaaaaate GDT's Pinocchio. Worst winner in the category in a while. International Film: Now this is bar none the best category. Between the two, it's The Zone of Interest, but All Quiet is actually my favourite of last year too.
Original Score: All Quiet on the Western Front by a mile. I didn't remember Oppenheimer's score at all until they kept playing it at the Oscars. Original Song: "What Was I Made For?" by a mile. Sound: The Zone of Interest for sure. It's one of those rare films in which the sound actually is the soul of the film.
Production Design: Love both, but Poor Things is more inventive. Cinematography: All Quiet by a mile. I have no idea why HVH swept to the extent that he did in such a strong year for cinematography. I don't see anything special about his work in the film. Makeup & Hair: Poor Things of course. Costume Design: Poor Things again. Film Editing: The only award I think Oppenheimer 100% deserves. The editing made the film feel much shorter than it is.
2024 winners are stronger overall but it's not really a slam dunk. Most of these are fairly close.
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Post by Barbie on Mar 12, 2024 15:13:19 GMT
The acting winners alone in 2024 are superior, and I haven't even watched Emma Stone and Da'Vine Joy Randolph yet 2024 Director, Best Original Screenplay, Film Editing, PICTURE trounce 2023 winners
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Post by Martin Stett on Mar 12, 2024 15:20:29 GMT
I'll update this as I watch more films
Picture: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Director: Daniels vs Nolan Actor: Brendan Fraser vs Cillian Murphy Actress: Michelle Yeoh vs Emma Stone Supporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan vs Robert Downey Jr. Supporting Actress: Jamie Lee Curtis vs. Da'Vine Joy Randolph Original Screenplay: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Anatomy of a Fall Adapted Screenplay: Women Talking vs American Fiction
Animated Film: Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio vs The Boy and the Heron International Film: All Quiet on the Western Front vs The Zone of Interest Documentary: Navalny vs 20 Days in Mariupol
Original Score: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Original Song: "Naatu Naatu" vs "What Was I Made For?" Sound: Top Gun: Maverick vs The Zone of Interest
Production Design: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Poor Things Cinematography: All Quiet on the Western Front vs Oppenheimer Makeup & Hair: The Whale vs Poor Things Costume Design: Black Panther Wakanda Forever vs Poor Things Film Editing: Everything Everywhere All at Once vs Oppenheimer Visual Effects: Avatar The Way of Water vs Godzilla Minus One
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Post by ibbi on Mar 12, 2024 15:24:07 GMT
Picture: Oppenheimer 1-0
Director: Nolan 2-0
Actor: Cillian Murphy 3-0
Actress: Emma Stone 4-0
Supporting Actor: Robert Downey Jr. 5-0 (first moderately close one)
Supporting Actress: Da'Vine Joy Randolph 6-0
Original Screenplay: Anatomy of a Fall 7-0 (second close one)
Adapted Screenplay: American Fiction 8-0
Animated Film: The Boy and the Heron 9-0
International Film: The Zone of Interest 10-0
Documentary: Navalny 10-1
Original Score: Oppenheimer 11-1 (close)
Original Song: "What Was I Made For?" 12-1
Sound: The Zone of Interest 13-1 (technically close)
Production Design: Poor Things 14-1
Cinematography: Oppenheimer 15-1 (very close)
Makeup & Hair: Poor Things 16-1
Costume Design: Poor Things 17-1
Film Editing: Oppenheimer 18-1
Visual Effects: Avatar The Way of Water vs Godzilla Minus One - It's technically probably Abadah, but when you look at the budgets for the two movies I'm going with Godzilla. 19-1
2022 was the worst movie year of my lifetime, and the Oscars reflected it.
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