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Post by countjohn on Apr 11, 2024 3:11:06 GMT
People are of course emphasizing the women's sports angle but it does beg the question of how much of Clark's appeal is because she's a white American (not Dirk or Jokic). If there was a male Caitlin Clark it might have been an even bigger phenomenon, there's a segment of the country that's been waiting for another midwestern farm boy like Larry Bird for ages. The whole thing is very much like Bird, even the not winning a championship in college for more buildup in the pros, and I think her having a contrasting (which probably means black) rival would take the thing to another level and help her sustain her popularity in the WNBA. As for most shocking draft fall, maybe Aaron Rodgers/ He wasn't viewed as a slam dunk but a lot of people had him going no. 1 and he slid all the way to 24. Happened with Marino too although I'm not sure how high people thought he would go to start with. Ok Why do you think she needs a rival?? What rival did Jordan have? She just needs to elevate to being the best player in the WNBA, and for the Fever to be America's team much like Lakers/Celtics/Bulls in the 80s, then the 90s. It's not impossible for the Fever to rise from the bottom to the top in a hurry. It's way easier to do that than in the NBA. WNBA has no relevant history, and the league is still seen as a joke to most people. I just think the novelty is eventually going to wear off if there aren't storylines around her and a rival would take care of that. The WNBA has no track record and it's going to take a lot to turn it into appointment viewing for the long term beyond her first few games. Jordan had the Pistons early on, Ewing's Knicks mid career, and the Jazz later. Admittedly he owned the latter two but that doesn't matter, even if it's someone she beats over and over again putting someone with some kind of a contrast up against her, whether it be play style, personality, or cultural, would make the whole thing a lot more compelling. When you look at the "golden age" of most sports it's usually defined by a great rivalry, or several. Brady-Peyton, Yankees-Red Sox, Magic-Bird, Duke-UNC, Ali-Frazier, Fed-Nadal One difference is that Indiana isn't LA, Chicago, or Boston. I said another time her ending up in a big market would have been better for the league. Bird had the midwestern everyman thing going on too but he still played in Boston. NFL is the only sport where that doesn't matter, for other pro sports leagues the biggest markets get the best ratings.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 11, 2024 12:50:12 GMT
Look man, I'd rather not post every day about this chick but every day there's something extraordinary...........and like I said before - it doesn't matter when her records get broken because in her case it isn't what she did, it's the way she did it........ Just wait until she gets her sneaker deal - nobody gives af about Paige Buckets or Juju Watkins sneakers ffs They don't even wait a week .......... #22 is the new #23 ........
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Post by urbanpatrician on Apr 12, 2024 0:04:35 GMT
Look man, I'd rather not post every day about this chick but every day there's something extraordinary...........and like I said before - it doesn't matter when her records get broken because in her case it isn't what she did, it's the way she did it........ Just wait until she gets her sneaker deal - nobody gives af about Paige Buckets or Juju Watkins sneakers ffs They don't even wait a week .......... #22 is the new #23 ........ Pacinoyes...are you thinking womens basketball is gonna go back down to the dark age again next year like I'm thinking? I dont care about Paige Bueckers and JuJu Watkins either, rly. I think Indiana Fever are gonna get all the buzz. If Caitlin can sustain it, and the Fever become Bulls dominant, I can see the WNBA being 4th only to NFL, MLB, NBA in the pecking order. Well in my eyes 3rd because the NBA is crap nowadays and I haven't seen a game since the Spurs disbanded.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 12, 2024 1:06:56 GMT
Look man, I'd rather not post every day about this chick but every day there's something extraordinary...........and like I said before - it doesn't matter when her records get broken because in her case it isn't what she did, it's the way she did it........ Just wait until she gets her sneaker deal - nobody gives af about Paige Buckets or Juju Watkins sneakers ffs They don't even wait a week .......... #22 is the new #23 ........ Pacinoyes...are you thinking womens basketball is gonna go back down to the dark age again next year like I'm thinking? I dont care about Paige Bueckers and JuJu Watkins either, rly. I think Indiana Fever are gonna get all the buzz. If Caitlin can sustain it, and the Fever become Bulls dominant, I can see the WNBA being 4th only to NFL, MLB, NBA in the pecking order. Well in my eyes 3rd because the NBA is crap nowadays and I haven't seen a game since the Spurs disbanded. I can tell you I will watch her wherever she plays .....I don't know who said it but that "there are very few things on Earth as much fun as watching her play basketball" was exactly right.........I will see her in person and pay out the ass to do it......like I did with Messi and Djokovic at the US Open in 2023........... My gf loves her too - and wants Indiana Fever swag and stuff already.......and cares LESS about women's basketball than I do....... .......I do think it's important that she gets a rivalry in year 1 or 2 ........but her and Aliyah Boston are going to be so much fun to watch and can be sold as like the Dynamic Duo........plus the WNBA season goes May-September which is a nice fit for me too Hard to know when this party stops tbh.......but we're actually in uncharted territory with this whole thing ........at least in the WNBA..........in college I think March Madness stays big with JuJu, Paige and Hannah Hidalgo......but yeah, not the same outside the tournament.........to me anyway......there's too many things fighting for your (ot mine) etertainment dollar........
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 12, 2024 12:37:55 GMT
Hey remember that time Michael Jordan had to play at bigger arenas before he was even drafted? Yeah, me neither because it never happened bitches .......
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 14, 2024 17:18:19 GMT
The GOAT makes her acting debut.....
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 15, 2024 20:10:29 GMT
At least 17, 000 showing up in Indy tonite to party for that Show White pick - Tyler Perry of woman's basketball my ass - the Taylor Swift of it mf'ers
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 15, 2024 23:33:39 GMT
The GOAT wears Prada........this is about as hot as she can look tbh......I mean without all that cash in her hands and stuff
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Post by countjohn on Apr 16, 2024 0:49:43 GMT
The GOAT wears Prada........ this is about as hot as she can look tbh......I mean without all that cash in her hands and stuff
I'd take her sweaty in a sports bra and leggings and her usual ponytail, lean into the tomboy thing.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Apr 16, 2024 0:58:51 GMT
Yassss I was raised in Mississippi then moved to Texas so I'm a Rickea Jackson fan.
Glad shes drafted to the Sparks. Gonna load up on some Sparks tickets this summer in my neck of the woods.
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Post by quetee on Apr 16, 2024 1:58:45 GMT
Yassss I was raised in Mississippi then moved to Texas so I'm a Rickea Jackson fan. Glad shes drafted to the Sparks. Gonna load up on some Sparks tickets this summer in my neck of the woods. Where in MS? I'm from meridian.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Apr 16, 2024 3:26:18 GMT
Yassss I was raised in Mississippi then moved to Texas so I'm a Rickea Jackson fan. Glad shes drafted to the Sparks. Gonna load up on some Sparks tickets this summer in my neck of the woods. Where in MS? I'm from meridian. Starkville. I'm kinda bulldog for life, even tho I have more inner Texan. Now I live in Santa Monica.
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Post by quetee on Apr 16, 2024 3:27:57 GMT
Where in MS? I'm from meridian. Starkville. I'm kinda bulldog for life, even tho I have more inner Texan. Now I live in Santa Monica. I'm in la. Do u ever go to new Beverly? Qts theater?
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Post by urbanpatrician on Apr 16, 2024 3:32:29 GMT
Starkville. I'm kinda bulldog for life, even tho I have more inner Texan. Now I live in Santa Monica. I'm in la. Do u ever go to new Beverly? Qts theater? Nope. Venice West or wherever closest Challengers plays next Thursday or Friday.
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Post by cherry68 on Apr 16, 2024 6:58:28 GMT
Starkville. I'm kinda bulldog for life, even tho I have more inner Texan. Now I live in Santa Monica. Wow, same metric of Virgil 's grave "Mantua me genuit, Calabri rapuere, tenet nunc Parthenope."
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 16, 2024 18:50:47 GMT
God Bless Her and Her Insane US Cultural Reach
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 17, 2024 6:50:57 GMT
Yeah, I'm buying this one .....so at this point the pacinoyes household has purchased 4 CC shirts - 2 college, 2 pro, 2 for me, 2 for the gf and I will be refinancing my house to see her play live hopefully #22 is te new #23
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 17, 2024 18:13:10 GMT
Made her formal Indy presentation today.......she's hopelessly Midwestern in the best way possible tbh
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 18, 2024 5:31:54 GMT
25 million apparently - which is 25 million more reasons to find her oddly attractive ammirite? ......as (often, not always) small time filmmaker Spike Lee once said "It must be the shoes" :......
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Apr 18, 2024 13:36:05 GMT
Pac, her RoY odds aren’t worth playing but would you sprinkle something on mvp at +1400?
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 18, 2024 14:00:20 GMT
Pac, her RoY odds aren’t worth playing but would you sprinkle something on mvp at +1400? I'd take a shot on that - but you know, now that I have my own business I'm pretty much spraying money all over the place so I'm not the best person to ask these days One of the things about her is the growth in her performance - like she was the 4th highest rated high school player and clearly grew as a player by her junior year in college.......it's hard to tell how far she will continue to reach peaks.........does her 22-24 years old match or exceed her 20-22 years old? On the other hand that CC backlash is real - so she's looking at a Sidney Crosby / Connor McDavid/ Kobe kind of thing too - it took a while for them to get MVP .....I'd wager on CC probably for the fun of following it more than any expected payout tbh
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Post by Joaquim on Apr 18, 2024 14:43:33 GMT
Pac, her RoY odds aren’t worth playing but would you sprinkle something on mvp at +1400? I ain’t even in love with her like the pacman is but I would jump all over those odds
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 18, 2024 16:53:15 GMT
Combining the two things pacinoyes loves - The Replacements and upsetting people - Caitlin Clark and Kay Adams......and like I said before .........20 million + - could be higher .......she has not set foot on a WNBA court.....unprecedented in Sports History......
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 19, 2024 18:44:25 GMT
2nd road team to move a game to a larger arena for CC - unprecedented in sports history afaik for a woman who has not even set foot on a professional court...just like her shoe deal......the fact that I have to carry this thread every day is probably our collective shame right up there with people who argued Nadal as GOAT ffs.......... Might get to actually see this one ........ The game originally scheduled at the 4,200-seat Entertainment & Sports Arena has been moved to the 20,356-seat Capital One Arena. Tipoff will remain at 7:30 p.m. The game will be broadcast on ION television as part of the WNBA’s Friday Nights on ION series.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 20, 2024 11:54:30 GMT
I've said all of this before .....too much: No one generates the commerce market like Caitlan Clark - maybe EVER, for a female athlete - clothes, merch, tickets, TV revenue - and not just for herself - and also: other players, brand advertising, her entire sport, also peripheral revenue : hotels, food, travel etc.........oh and THE biggest thing : betting.........you can bet EVERYTHING with her..........no other female athlete afaik is close to what she can do with betting because no other female athlete existed during FanDuel ffs She has not set foot on a WNBA court yet .........
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