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Post by Nikan on Dec 31, 2023 18:07:59 GMT
To keep it movie-related, which film showcases your stance on the topic the best?... (Happy 2024 )
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Post by Archie on Dec 31, 2023 18:12:19 GMT
I was abused by religious nuts while growing up, so no. Ain't no such thing. Keep religion away from me.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Dec 31, 2023 18:22:21 GMT
Inb4 pacinoyes shames the board again for being full of leftist atheist heathens.
To answer the thread question, yes.
Not sure about a film that represents my specific stance, but I think Ordet is the best film about faith that I’ve seen.
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Post by JangoB on Dec 31, 2023 18:35:18 GMT
I do believe there's something out (up?) there. I don't know what, I don't know who, I don't know how... but I believe it's there. And the whole point is that it's inexplicable. Or maybe it's just midi-chlorians.
Religion though? Fuck that. Well, I mean for me personally. Nothing against those who need it in their lives. Unless they abuse others because of it or force others into it or decide that those of different faith are below them, etc.
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Post by Nikan on Dec 31, 2023 18:35:27 GMT
I was abused by religious nuts while growing up, so no. Ain't no such thing. Keep religion away from me. Sorry to hear that. I'm personally in total opposite: grew up in a secular household, liked religous teachers I met in highschool/University, met nice missionaries when I entered Europe... but their "friendship" seem pretty fishy now ngl
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 31, 2023 18:36:11 GMT
Interesting question for a board of atheist heathens -it's never too late Cake. Amen.... As Mr Denzel Washington - a great actor -but not THE GOAT actor - dumbasses - and with a pretty shitty filmography, who also isn't particularly adept at comedy.......... often puts it:
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 31, 2023 18:57:54 GMT
Oh and a film would be The 4th Man but without all the man on man stuff because the male body is just gross - except for mine I mean ....... It's a matter of if you choose to see really ......
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Dec 31, 2023 20:14:03 GMT
Atheist. Raised Christian, and suffered enough religious trauma to never want to go back.
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Post by Pavan on Jan 1, 2024 6:15:22 GMT
I used to wonder about whether there is a god or a higher being out there and wished someone to be real. These days i stopped wondering and just praying to a few gods (Hinduism has like thousands of gods) to give me strength.
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Post by mhynson27 on Jan 1, 2024 10:22:00 GMT
Yep, Christian.
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Post by themoviesinner on Jan 1, 2024 11:23:16 GMT
I chose option 4, because, really, it isn't something that concerns me at all. I really don't care about religion (the God or afterlife part of it, to be more precise) and never have.
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Post by Nikan on Jan 1, 2024 12:09:02 GMT
15 votes in what do ya know? we're perfectly balanced.
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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 1, 2024 16:15:00 GMT
I am between the first and second choice. I consider myself to be a cafeteria Catholic. I go to mass sometimes, and do not take the Bible literally. But I am very spiritual - believe in God, destiny, superstition, and angels -- and pray on a daily basis. Went with A, because I go to mass.
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Post by LaraQ on Jan 1, 2024 16:28:21 GMT
Church of England, but I don't have a religious bone in my body.I don't think there is a God.
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Jan 1, 2024 17:21:07 GMT
I am culturally Christian - i.e. I was raised Christian, I believe in Christian values*, I celebrate Christian holidays... But do I believe in a higher power? I'm really not sure.
Edit: *By this I mean the actual teachings of Christ - not the fundamentalist/evangelical perversion of the term.
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Post by stabcaesar on Jan 1, 2024 18:03:02 GMT
Practicing buddhist/taoist. Most people mix these two here. I like it.
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Post by Brother Fease on Jan 1, 2024 18:13:52 GMT
I am culturally Christian - i.e. I was raised Christian, I believe in Christian values, I celebrate Christian holidays... But do I believe in a higher power? I'm really not sure. Tom Cruise can be your higher power or Audrey Hepburn or Meryl Streep.
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Post by tep on Jan 1, 2024 19:13:32 GMT
Catholic-ish
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Post by Martin Stett on Jan 1, 2024 19:23:10 GMT
I have been raised Christian and have been facing a crisis of faith in the past few years. I'm a questioner, and the lack of "fairness" to biblical theology is something that bothers me greatly. If God is so loving, why Hell? Oh sure, it was created for the demons and man can only go there because of sin, but... why is there sin? If God is all knowing, why would he create a sentient race that would be damned for eternity because Adam chose to disobey a law? So God wants people to worship Him out of free will, but if we don't, we get yoinked to Hell? That ain't free will, it's *coercion.* Furthermore, the Law as laid down in the old testament is impossible to keep (as the new testament comments on). Man is inherently fucked, and cannot possibly match God's standards... but God supplied a scapegoat (in a literal sense) to catch the punishment for us if we accept it, which is great... but God also will not communicate openly with sinful man after the writing of the new testament, which means that he sent us a manual and told us to accept Jesus or be sent straight to Hell, do not pass Go, do not collect $200 that will be worth $20 in ten years because of rampant inflation. And if you're not somebody raised in that system, who is told clearly the good news of the gospel, you have far less chance of ever getting saved, for obvious reasons. So if you are not in the right position to start, you're statistically pretty well screwed. I'm also uncomfortable with the guilt-tripping of Christianity - the whole thing is built around how horrible mankind is and how there can be no redemption in our own acts. If this is true, that is VITALLY important to know. But if this is so important, why won't God speak to us face to face? I have read (and loved) C.S. Lewis's Till We Have Faces, which asks these same questions, but I'm not sure I agree with Lewis's conclusions. (His conclusions make for one hell of a great novel and I think there is a lot to value in how he deliberately deconstructs every argument Orual makes against God, but I still have to question whether a truly good God would create a system in which He cannot show his face because of Man's sin... if you are the creator of all, surely you could create rules that aren't just "you have sinned and you are unrepentant despite the fact I gave a book to you, so you are damned for eternity.") Which brings me to the GIF above, from my favorite movie: Madoka Magica Rebellion. A story about a Christian who wants so desperately for God to exist, wants that Divine power to envelop and guide her, praying to It for her deliverance... A Christian who is a fraud, whose religion is untrue, who fears that *God* is untrue. A Christian who reaches upwards to touch the hand of her Savior, only for it to crumble to dust. A Christian who repeats the words of Nietszche's madman in horror: "God is dead, God is dead, God is dead." What was holiest and mightiest in all that this world has yet known has bled to death under her knife. What water is there with which to wash herself? What sacred games, what festivals of atonement must she invent? Is not this deed too great for her? Must she not become a god herself, simply to appear worthy of it?
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Post by MsMovieStar on Jan 1, 2024 20:29:34 GMT
Oh honeys, hell no! I barely survived Lauralton...
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jan 2, 2024 0:35:58 GMT
I believe in beauty and grace. Whether that comes from a higher being, a universal force, or earthly beings matters less and less to me as I age as I push more and more towards seeing God in all things.
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Post by Joaquim on Jan 2, 2024 2:46:24 GMT
Somewhere between the first 2 options. I am Catholic but I haven’t been to church in years. Haven’t so much as confessed my sins since 2nd grade. I don’t do a lot of praying either but I know God is real. I remember reading something about a Muslim man and a Christian woman discussing their respective faiths at some religious convention or something like that, don’t remember the exact specifics, but basically the Christian woman said “I believe” and the Muslim guy cut her off right there and said “see that’s the difference between you and me. You believe, I know”. That really stuck with me ever since I read it. I don’t believe in God, I know Him. Organized religion is the work of the devil tho
This is why the simulation theory is also interesting. If the universe is indeed a simulation then that proves the existence of A god - that being whoever created the simulation
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Post by dazed on Mar 22, 2024 20:02:34 GMT
grew up in a catholic house (went to a catholic school from kindergarten until grade 12). started having real doubts around grade 7 and now i’ve been an agnostic atheist for years. my core family isn’t really religious anymore either. mom worked at the school and the hypocrisy and anti gay themes pushed her away.
religion was never really for me. met a lot of great people at school and we’ll still go out drinking/partying once in the blue moon, but some of the teachers really sucked. especially in high school. felt like a lot of brainwashing was going on. i remember in elementary too how i’d lay in bed and think how i’d have to live an enternal life in heaven and the thought of eternity was stifling to me. fucking haaaated going to church too. shit was the most boring hour of my week.
while saying all that christmas is probably my favorite holiday and time of the year.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 22, 2024 20:42:37 GMT
used to be a prickly atheist, now I'm a prickly agnostic I guess. Same boat as some of the others here, grew up with a brand of Christianity as interpreted as grievance-politicking, anti-government, home-church going fundamentalism fixated on human guilt, Calvinist self-loathing, sexual repression, homophobia, the evils of communism and abortion, end times fantasies, etc (we were two steps from carrying "God Hates Fags" signs), so that definitely left some scars to say the least and put me off Christianity for over a decade. Lately I've been becoming a bit more open-minded to the possibility of God or at least spirituality or a higher power, whatever you wanna call it. I see the appeal in living that way. And although legalism and dogma does tend to infect a lot of religious practice, that's just a universal unfortunate aspect of stupid in-group/out-group human behavior and not specific to faith (likewise there are many faithful people who are genuinely kind and good people who I admire and desire to emulate). I sometimes find myself looking up old classic hymns that I used to sing in church... I guess it wasn't all bad. Hymns and gospel music are some of the most beautiful and soulful music there is... atheism can be just as obtusely dogmatic, and I was an aggressively dogmatic antitheist for a bit (reading Hitchens over and over again will do that to you)... now I see life and belief more as a buffet. I don't know who has the truth but I know I certainly don't lol, so whichever ways people choose to live and worship that makes them happy without hurting the people around them is A-OK with me. Love your neighbor.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 22, 2024 20:48:25 GMT
so to answer the question, I can't say I believe in a higher power because I default to skepticism and believe everything in the universe can be understood through scientific observation and research and thus can't say I've seen evidence of a higher power (no UFOs, no ghosts, no astrology, I'm no fun )... BUT ... that doesn't mean there isn't one and I often like to think there is. Between still searching and don't care because I'm not actively searching but am open to the possibility. Went with "still searching" because "don't care" sounds too nihilistic haha
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