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Post by stephen on Jul 21, 2023 18:55:01 GMT
She is given very limited to do, has maybe 5-6 minutes of screen time max. She has like three nudes scenes and then dies. The portrayal of Blunt's character isn't that much better. She also has limited screen time (the portrayal of her alcoholism felt like a high school play to me) and doesn't really have that "Oscar clip" to really make an impact (but I'm also relieved they didn't shoehorn one in). You never really understand their relationship or what they mean to each other and what the dynamic is. This definitely didn't pass the Bechdel test if you wanna get into that. Well that’s disappointing. I knew she had limited screentime time and why but to be reduced to just [redacted] scenes sucks I gotta say, it was funny to see "Oppenheimer (2023) by Barbie" in the forum header. Someone needs to change their username to Oppenheimer to comment on the Barbie thread to really get Barbenheimer to the next level.
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Post by stephen on Jul 21, 2023 18:58:11 GMT
Upon rumination, I have to say I would be very surprised if Jennifer Lame loses the Oscar this year. As proven by Dunkirk, the Academy likes it when Nolan plays with structure on an editing level, and this film takes that to its natural peak. Cross-cutting across different eras with notable visual cues (black-and-white to colour and back), with how brisk the film is paced... this is exactly what they go for. I haven't seen Thelma's work or any of the other major contenders to come, but Lame's set the bar very high.
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Post by Feesy on Jul 21, 2023 19:52:58 GMT
Upon rumination, I have to say I would be very surprised if Jennifer Lame loses the Oscar this year. As proven by Dunkirk, the Academy likes it when Nolan plays with structure on an editing level, and this film takes that to its natural peak. Cross-cutting across different eras with notable visual cues (black-and-white to colour and back), with how brisk the film is paced... this is exactly what they go for. I haven't seen Thelma's work or any of the other major contenders to come, but Lame's set the bar very high. This was so flashy with its editing, I was almost taken aback by it. Nolan’s used quick cuts before, but I don’t remember to this level and with this kind of subject matter. It took me a few minutes to adjust, but once I did, I was set.
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Post by countjohn on Jul 22, 2023 3:41:12 GMT
This was certainly good. Terrific screenplay that has to be a contender for adapted and the techs are all around good. Costumes, PD sound, score, and of course the FX. The nuclear sequence lives up to the hype and is tense and spectacular.
As for the cast, RDJ, Damon, and Blunt are all the highlights and I'd support nods for all of them. Murphy is solid but I don't really see it as a BA performance for me. Lots of other quality supporting performances from the big names- Pugh, Branagh, Modine, Conti as Einstein, Oldman as Truman. Making Oldman a surprise would have been so great though.
Not quite sure what to make of the editing, it's just so fast despite the length and how dense the script is. Wouldn't have minded cutting some material but slowing it down a bit.
8/10 for me. I'd put it behind TDK, Memento, and Dunkirk for Nolan.
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Post by countjohn on Jul 22, 2023 3:44:39 GMT
Malek (lol I expected him to be silent for the whole movie till his big scene) I saw this post before I saw the movie and kept laughing whenever I'd see him standing around in the background. He was basically an extra except for his monologue at the end. Would be so funny if Nolan did that with a huge star and just got him to sit around for a whole movie.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Jul 22, 2023 3:53:40 GMT
Malek (lol I expected him to be silent for the whole movie till his big scene) I saw this post before I saw the movie and kept laughing whenever I'd see him standing around in the background. He was basically an extra except for his monologue at the end. Would be so funny if Nolan did that with a huge star and just got him to sit around for a whole movie. Y’see, Malek was originally the heart and soul of the film, but Nolan favored Murphy in the editing room.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jul 22, 2023 4:10:14 GMT
Really great. Engrossing throughout with a slew of outstanding performances as well as Murphy’s terrific lead. The final test scene will probably be my scene I’d the year. Could def see Nolan winning Director for this, along with a slew of techs and maybe RDJ.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Jul 22, 2023 5:05:38 GMT
One great scene in an ocean of mediocrity. Sorry, but Nolan was the wrong guy for this. I liked it a lot - reviewed it above in the thread ^ - but a lot of people are going to feel this way and that it's just endless talking .......I mean it's as exposition heavy as any movie I can think of in the whole MAR era maybe .......(?) I dunno, seems like audiences are surprisingly eating it up so far... see below
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Jul 22, 2023 5:11:37 GMT
One of the best of the 2020s (and #1 of 2023, obviously)
Oppenheimer is phenomenal. I wasn't as excited about it as some people because I saw it as a regular biopic but, boy, was I wrong.
Excellent intercutting with different timelines and perspectives make it feel like the Nolan movies we've come to expect. It should be the favorite for Best Editing.
This is also probably his best script since The Dark Knight. 3 hours flew by. It was thoroughly engrossing until the end. I heard some complaints about the last 45 minutes but that's where all the themes and ideas come together in an entertaining and thoughtful conclusion.
Oppenheimer is Nolan's most "important" and deepest film in years. It might be the film that gets him his Oscar.
10/10
The top 3 is very hard to crack but I'm comfortable putting it #4 for now.
1. Inception 2. Memento 3. The Dark Knight 4. Oppenheimer 5. Batman Begins 6. The Prestige 7. The Dark Knight Rises 8. Interstellar 9. Dunkirk 10. Following 11. Tenet 11. Insomnia
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Post by SZilla on Jul 22, 2023 5:16:06 GMT
I think I have to come to terms with the fact that I might be a little slut for Nolan movies. Genuinely loved this and thought it flew by. Cillian is one of my favorite actors, so I'm biased, but I found him to be remarkable. It's not any "loud" moments that wowed me, but the subtler things like the fluttering of his eyes when reckoning with the consequences of his actions and the harrowed look in his eyes. Really liked Conti as Einstein too. I won't rank this above Memento and maybe not The Dark Knight either, but I had a great time with this.
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Post by Joaquim on Jul 22, 2023 6:46:04 GMT
Fucking masterful and an easy 10/10. What else did you expect from the God Emperor?
1. Dunkirk 2. The Dark Knight 3. Inception 4. Memento 5. Oppenheimer 6. Interstellar 7. Tenet 8. Following 9. The Prestige 10. The Dark Knight Rises 11. Batman Begins
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Post by Barbie on Jul 22, 2023 7:10:29 GMT
I was not expecting this movie to make me cry, but it did. It was the test scene. I didn’t cry out of joy though. It was depressing af…
The movie started out kinda boring and disjointed but settled in and found its groove after 20 minutes or so. Cillian is a great actor, and he does some great work here especially in the second half of the film. I was pleasantly surprised by how much I liked RDJ and how much of a scene stealer he was. He still has his signature schtick but it works here. Alden Ehrenreich really held his own against RDJ. Really strong work from the ensemble. Other standouts were Benny Safdie, Jason Clarke, Matt Damon, and David Krumholtz
Emily Blunt was a hit or miss, and I think her character wasn’t as well written. I agree with speeders about how you don’t get a sense of what Kitty and Oppenheimer mean to each other. I didn’t mind her drunk acting btw but she was alright. I was very disappointed with Florence Pugh’s limited screentime. She did what she had to do, but she was definitely underwritten. I also found the choice to have that third nude scene in the private hearing to be very awkward. I love Flo, but I wish she was given more to do. Btw, Florence and Murphy have ZERO chemistry. Murphy didn’t have any chemistry with Blunt either
I enjoyed this, but this isn’t my favorite Nolan film. I will need to do a rewatch to appreciate it more.
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Post by speeders on Jul 22, 2023 11:08:15 GMT
Upon rumination, I have to say I would be very surprised if Jennifer Lame loses the Oscar this year. As proven by Dunkirk, the Academy likes it when Nolan plays with structure on an editing level, and this film takes that to its natural peak. Cross-cutting across different eras with notable visual cues (black-and-white to colour and back), with how brisk the film is paced... this is exactly what they go for. I haven't seen Thelma's work or any of the other major contenders to come, but Lame's set the bar very high. Yes, it felt like an editing winner to me too. Actually, it felt like it might nab a few majors wins.
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Post by Lord_Buscemi on Jul 22, 2023 13:38:01 GMT
I wonder how uncomfortable watching the film in cinemas in Hiroshima and Nagasaki must feel.
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Post by DeepArcher on Jul 23, 2023 5:41:35 GMT
The Trinity sequence is so unbelievably breathtaking that the rest of the movie could've completely sucked and I probably would've still been positive on it. Helps that the rest of the movie: pretty good! For a 3-movie of men talking in rooms, this moves at a relentless clip - all the praise for Jennifer Lame's work in this thread is well-deserved and then some, and the thrillingly frantic pace at which this moves through hearings and monologues is obviously how it most earns the frequent JFK comparisons - to a point that the film feels very dense and hard to completely parse and absorb in just one viewing. (The extensive casting of so many familiar faces is so essential here - I really don't think I'd have been able to keep track of a fraction of these supporting characters without the "hey, look who it is!" effect.) It's incredibly encyclopedic at the expense of any real character depth, but Nolan tends to work best in abstraction anyway and it's pretty riveting nonetheless. Even if it doesn't necessarily all add up for me on first viewing (as good as Downey Jr. is, I'm honestly not even sure why his whole arc is included other than out of loyalty to the source material - I'm assuming? - and Nolan's interest in the Mozart/Salieri parallel, a cool idea that maybe feels incongruous with the rest of the movie), it left me feeling unsettled and almost paralyzed. "Sound that I can feel" (read in a Nicole Kidman voice) and all that. That kind of experience is all I'm really looking for from a trip to the movies.
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Post by Joaquim on Jul 23, 2023 7:10:57 GMT
So how many career best performances did NOLAN get out of his cast? I know there’s several
Not Blunt that’s for sure. That’s my one real gripe with this film. I just could not get behind her drunk acting. I know she’s getting raved but I think I’m with Stephen on this one. Her performance almost took me out of it when she was onscreen until she had her big scene in the hearing towards the end. That scene and everything after that was truly great stuff on her part. When she refused to shake Safdie’s hand and just stared at him coldly while her husband took the high road and embraced him… that did so much more for me than the rest of her drunk acting beforehand leading up to this point in the film
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Post by stabcaesar on Jul 23, 2023 8:08:19 GMT
I wonder how uncomfortable watching the film in cinemas in Hiroshima and Nagasaki must feel. Probably not very. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are just regular Japanese cities these days.
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Post by havok2 on Jul 23, 2023 13:06:51 GMT
This is NOLAN's Zodiac/The Insider in levels of pure craftsmanship and procedural. He finally realized how to use his elements to build a proper film and man, how limited the screenplay feels when it comes to his usual memery antics. I'd be shocked if it missed a SAG Ensemble nomination and an Editing Oscar.
LOVED seeing Josh Hartnett in a major motion picture again
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Post by havok2 on Jul 23, 2023 13:08:27 GMT
GREAT use of the Threnody to the Victims of Hiroshima
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jul 23, 2023 15:13:31 GMT
I wonder how uncomfortable watching the film in cinemas in Hiroshima and Nagasaki must feel. Probably not very. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are just regular Japanese cities these days. And I hear that they regularly drop dozens of packs of Pokemon cards over Nanking in solidarity...
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Post by Martin Stett on Jul 23, 2023 15:55:53 GMT
LOVED seeing Josh Hartnett in a major motion picture again HE'S BACK!?
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Post by Joaquim on Jul 23, 2023 16:23:41 GMT
LOVED seeing Josh Hartnett in a major motion picture again HE'S BACK!? So back
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Post by Pavan on Jul 23, 2023 19:17:35 GMT
RDJ and Blunt are getting the praise but other supporting members like Matt Damon, Alden Ehrenreich, Jason Clarke, Benny Safdie, Rami Malek, Dane Dehaan shined too. Rare to see a film with so many good performances.
Plus its also super strong on techs. These two factors are what puts Nolan as frontrunner for best director for now.
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Post by Barbie on Jul 23, 2023 21:13:57 GMT
LOVED seeing Josh Hartnett in a major motion picture again HE'S BACK!? I was pleasantly surprised to see him. He did a great job
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Post by FallenWarrior on Jul 23, 2023 21:20:33 GMT
I enjoyed quite a bit, it has those quirks that feature in othe Nolan films that I usually don't like but luckily he's still a very talented director so it still works.
The victory speech scene is probably the best thing he's ever done.
7/10
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