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Post by Lord_Buscemi on Mar 29, 2022 12:51:03 GMT
Genuinely unnerved by what happened.That shit was dark and it's disgusting the way people are defending Smith on Twitter. How out of touch does one need to be to think a slap is unnerving? Embarrassing.
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 29, 2022 15:44:25 GMT
The stars give their reactions
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Post by stephen on Mar 29, 2022 16:12:13 GMT
The Pesci one killed me.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Mar 29, 2022 16:46:00 GMT
Stephen, I had the same thought..his Pesci was spot on..lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2022 17:43:50 GMT
"Defending his wife"? It was a harmless joke at the Academy Awards... he needs professional help. If you're quoting me because I said "defending his wife" some posts above in regards to his motive for doing it not being the kind that would mean his career is done, then let me make it clear. I don't think he should have handled it like that. I've said if he had an issue, he should have confronted him backstage. But that was not just any harmless award show joke. It wasn't a fashion statement. You don't think if you've been battling a medical condition that causes you to look a certain way that that's a slap in the face to be publicly humiliated about it in front of the world? She was visibly bothered in that moment and I would be too. Will did overreact and the same way Will overreacted some of you are overreacting. Some of you are acting like you need therapy after witnessing a slap. It's giving that you've never seen a fight in your entire life. Men have fought other men for disrespecting their wives, girlfriends, sisters, and mothers since the beginning of time over less. This is nothing new. What is new is that it happened live on stage at the Academy Awards. I could totally understand the outrage if she were terminally ill or battling cancer or some other such situation, but that just isn't the case. Perhaps the joke was mean-spirited and lazy, I'll grant that, but if I were a millionaire celebrity at the Academy Awards, I would expect to be roasted - it just comes with the territory. I can't say how I would feel about being made fun of for hair loss (as this hasn't happened to me as of now), but men are constantly the brunt of such jokes. And honestly, I had no idea that Pinkett had alopecia - in the moment, I thought the joke was more a comment on her career (a continuation from Rock's joke at her expense in 2016) - i.e. the only thing you could get offered is a sequel to a flop, etc. I realize that you have a personal connection to this disease, and I definitely don't mean to minimize it (as I said above, I don't know how this feels, and I totally understand that hair plays a huge role in our identities and concept of ourselves) - I just think if Pinkett really had an issue with it, she could have addressed it herself after the ceremony, in a similar fashion to Taylor Swift responding to the Tina Fey/Amy Poehler jokes at her expense at the Golden Globes. Being a millionaire and being famous don't mean you don't have feelings, I totally get it.
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Post by LaraQ on Mar 29, 2022 20:00:19 GMT
Genuinely unnerved by what happened.That shit was dark and it's disgusting the way people are defending Smith on Twitter. How out of touch does one need to be to think a slap is unnerving? Embarrassing. Lol.What does being "out of touch" have to do with anything?.Yeah,seeing a man charge up onto the stage and slap someone over a dumb joke was unnerving to me.Your comment is embarrassing.
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 29, 2022 20:06:04 GMT
To be honest, most of his impressions are terrific. His Harrleson, Mconaughey, Wahlberg and DeNiro are pretty on point. His Murphy is good, but feels a bit too exaggerated (like he's basically doing Murphy's Donkey in Shrek voice). He's trying with his Bridges, and I see glimmers of it, but it doesn't work as well as many of his others. His Denzel is a bit lazy, because he does what most Denzel impersonators do and does an impersonation of Denzel in Training Day, instead of trying to capture him in general.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 29, 2022 20:06:14 GMT
Speaking of embarrassing comments....... "Black Community", "Black Twitter" bullshittery - this stupid sh it, is comedy gold and it's gonna go on and on, thanks for that Will..... Shay Stewart Bouley @blackgirlinmain
Black emotions scare white people, that is quite clear. Ya'll shook because you are used to seeing your favorite Black people wear their masks.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 29, 2022 20:06:38 GMT
thinking Chris Rock's joke was tasteless and offensive and thinking Will Smith's response was worse are not mutually exclusive. There are a hundred ways Will Smith could've handled that situation that would've ended with Rock as the villain (he could've motioned from the audience, he could've tweeted about it, he could've addressed it in his speech and rallied support for him and his wife and he would've been the fucking hero), but instead he chose the worst possible response and showed his selfishness and entitlement and came out the much bigger jackass by reacting with physical violence. He had an opportunity to be the bigger man and instead showed the exact opposite. I disagree with the people rallying around Rock and complimenting his professionalism and whatnot. Fuck that, but what Smith did was worse and I'm so over the downplaying and rationalization. Smith was unhinged.
And the idea about defending his wife's honor -- fuck off this isn't the 1800s.
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Post by Joaquim on Mar 29, 2022 20:28:29 GMT
His mark wahlberg impressions are always great. Pesci and De Niro impressions the standouts here. Very disappointed we didn’t get a “wow” for Owen Wilson
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 29, 2022 20:47:28 GMT
His mark wahlberg impressions are always great. Pesci and De Niro impressions the standouts here. Very disappointed we didn’t get a “wow” for Owen Wilson I just forgot to mention it. His Owen Wilson is brilliant! He needs to work a bit on his Michael Keaton though . It's got potential, but can be better.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Mar 29, 2022 22:57:31 GMT
Some of these so good. His Wahlberg one in particular had me rolling. Beyond top notch.
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Post by futuretrunks on Mar 29, 2022 23:25:24 GMT
Hmmm...looking at this, Chris Rock was playing with fire. The joke was ad-libbed, so the claim that Smith heard it in the rehearsals first was baseless. Rock and the Smith's have a history ( He brutally mocked Jada in his opening Oscar monologue when he hosted a few years ago for boycotting the Oscars over # OscarsSo White. Apparently Jada said on a podcast a while back that she believes Rock has a vendetta against them). Now Rock would have long known his jokes about them did not sit well with the Smiths (particularly Jada) yet he carried on doing it for years, and was foolish enough to ad-lib a joke about Jada being bald when they were in the same room with him. Chris was basically taunting them..."nyah, nyah...I know you hate my jokes about you, but you can't do shit about it because I'm a comedian, and I can say whatever I want about anybody without being checked". This time, he got checked. Well, Smith's career is gonna get checked, though he already did that to himself with his project choices.
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 30, 2022 0:17:44 GMT
Hmmm...looking at this, Chris Rock was playing with fire. The joke was ad-libbed, so the claim that Smith heard it in the rehearsals first was baseless. Rock and the Smith's have a history ( He brutally mocked Jada in his opening Oscar monologue when he hosted a few years ago for boycotting the Oscars over # OscarsSo White. Apparently Jada said on a podcast a while back that she believes Rock has a vendetta against them). Now Rock would have long known his jokes about them did not sit well with the Smiths (particularly Jada) yet he carried on doing it for years, and was foolish enough to ad-lib a joke about Jada being bald when they were in the same room with him. Chris was basically taunting them..."nyah, nyah...I know you hate my jokes about you, but you can't do shit about it because I'm a comedian, and I can say whatever I want about anybody without being checked". This time, he got checked. Well, Smith's career is gonna get checked, though he already did that to himself with his project choices. The guy just won a Best Actor Oscar. He is a Best Picture Nominated Producer for King Richard. Bad Boys For Life was the highest grossing American film of 2020 at the Box Office. (pandemic assisted, but still a huge win). Aladdin made over a billion dollars. He can literally get any project he wants to make greenlit. You can ding him for not working with major auteurs ( which seems more of a choice because he's quite controlling and prefers to produce his own projects through his company. He did turn down Tarantino after all), but by any sane standard, his career is still in incredibly good shape. Smith doesn't care about "auteur kudos". He's not George Clooney, desperately trying to impress cinephiles in his choices. Smith is a meat and potatoes old fashioned movie star that's just interested in being a mass audience entertainer and maybe winning some awards along the way. And he's done exactly that. He's done exactly what he's set out to achieve. I don't think it matters that it's not what you think a great career should be He's far from my favorite actor and I don't neccesarily run out to watch his films, but the man has the career he wants and is still ridiculously successful with it. I mean, he's probably a lot better off than Tom Cruise, who seems to pump out nothing but Mission Impossible movies. Smith is still a box office juggernaut (albeit a less consistent one than at his peak) and a guy who can win Oscars. I'm not really sure where you are coming from with this angle.
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Post by JangoB on Mar 30, 2022 1:08:51 GMT
lol
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Post by stephen on Mar 30, 2022 1:13:00 GMT
Satire is moldering in its grave.
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 30, 2022 1:18:07 GMT
If the slap don't hit, you must acquit!
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Post by futuretrunks on Mar 30, 2022 1:18:55 GMT
Well, Smith's career is gonna get checked, though he already did that to himself with his project choices. The guy just won a Best Actor Oscar. He is a Best Picture Nominated Producer for King Richard. Bad Boys For Life was the highest grossing American film of 2020 at the Box Office. (pandemic assisted, but still a huge win). Aladdin made over a billion dollars. He can literally get any project he wants to make greenlit. You can ding him for not working with major auteurs ( which seems more of a choice because he's quite controlling and prefers to produce his own projects through his company. He did turn down Tarantino after all), but by any sane standard, his career is still in incredibly good shape. Smith doesn't care about "auteur kudos". He's not George Clooney, desperately trying to impress cinephiles in his choices. Smith is a meat and potatoes old fashioned movie star that's just interested in being a mass audience entertainer and maybe winning some awards along the way. And he's done exactly that. He's done exactly what he's set out to achieve. I don't think it matters that it's not what you think a great career should be He's far from my favorite actor and I don't neccesarily run out to watch his films, but the man has the career he wants and is still ridiculously successful with it. I mean, he's probably a lot better off than Tom Cruise, who seems to pump out nothing but Mission Impossible movies. Smith is still a box office juggernaut (albeit a less consistent one than at his peak) and a guy who can win Oscars. I'm not really sure where you are coming from with this angle. Well, I thought Bad Boys for Life incredibly mediocre and overrated, I thought Aladdin outright sucked, I thought King Richard was a major disappointment despite my being a big tennis fan and looking forward to some populist entertainment; I couldn't finish Gemini Man or Bright, I thought that first Suicide Squad atrocious, etc. I just personally think his career has become really embarrassing. Cruise is a disappointment, but he at least had a couple decades of diverse, strong work. And I'd take something like Ghost Protocol over any movie Smith has been in since Bad Boys 2. I simply don't respect Smith's career over the last 15 or so years.
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 30, 2022 1:25:22 GMT
The guy just won a Best Actor Oscar. He is a Best Picture Nominated Producer for King Richard. Bad Boys For Life was the highest grossing American film of 2020 at the Box Office. (pandemic assisted, but still a huge win). Aladdin made over a billion dollars. He can literally get any project he wants to make greenlit. You can ding him for not working with major auteurs ( which seems more of a choice because he's quite controlling and prefers to produce his own projects through his company. He did turn down Tarantino after all), but by any sane standard, his career is still in incredibly good shape. Smith doesn't care about "auteur kudos". He's not George Clooney, desperately trying to impress cinephiles in his choices. Smith is a meat and potatoes old fashioned movie star that's just interested in being a mass audience entertainer and maybe winning some awards along the way. And he's done exactly that. He's done exactly what he's set out to achieve. I don't think it matters that it's not what you think a great career should be He's far from my favorite actor and I don't neccesarily run out to watch his films, but the man has the career he wants and is still ridiculously successful with it. I mean, he's probably a lot better off than Tom Cruise, who seems to pump out nothing but Mission Impossible movies. Smith is still a box office juggernaut (albeit a less consistent one than at his peak) and a guy who can win Oscars. I'm not really sure where you are coming from with this angle. Well, I thought Bad Boys for Life incredibly mediocre and overrated, I thought Aladdin outright sucked, I thought King Richard was a major disappointment despite my being a big tennis fan and looking forward to some populist entertainment; I couldn't finish Gemini Man or Bright, I thought that first Suicide Squad atrocious, etc. I just personally think his career has become really embarrassing. Cruise is a disappointment, but he at least had a couple decades of diverse, strong work. And I'd take something like Ghost Protocol over any movie Smith has been in since Bad Boys 2. I simply don't respect Smith's career over the last 15 or so years. Well, that's fine... for you. But you need to seperate your personal feelings about his career and movies and try to be objective as to how they actually performed. Objectively speaking, his most recent films are either making shitloads of money or been major award winning critical successes. His career is better than good in that regard. His choices have not hurt him at all.
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Post by futuretrunks on Mar 30, 2022 1:42:27 GMT
Well, I thought Bad Boys for Life incredibly mediocre and overrated, I thought Aladdin outright sucked, I thought King Richard was a major disappointment despite my being a big tennis fan and looking forward to some populist entertainment; I couldn't finish Gemini Man or Bright, I thought that first Suicide Squad atrocious, etc. I just personally think his career has become really embarrassing. Cruise is a disappointment, but he at least had a couple decades of diverse, strong work. And I'd take something like Ghost Protocol over any movie Smith has been in since Bad Boys 2. I simply don't respect Smith's career over the last 15 or so years. Well, that's fine... for you. But you need to seperate your personal feelings about his career and movies and try to be objective as to how they actually performed. Objectively speaking, his most recent films are either making shitloads of money or been major award winning critical successes. His career is better than good in that regard. His choices have not hurt him at all. That he's made money is undeniable, that he's won an Oscar is as well. But to say his career is in good shape for those reasons is missing the point as to how much his career has atrophied in terms of delivering widely-liked blockbuster entertainments. Pretty much every Disney live-action remake made lots of money, that doesn't mean his Aladdin was nearly as culturally vibrant/relevant as Men in Black, Independence Day, Enemy of the State, etc. He's coasting on 90s fumes.
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 30, 2022 2:41:23 GMT
Also, I'm calling it now....Will Smith and Chris Rock will announce at some point that they are doing a movie together.
Most likely the remake of Uptown Saturday Night, which Smith's company is producing (and at one point it had Denzel attached to co-star with Smith).
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 30, 2022 2:48:04 GMT
Well, that's fine... for you. But you need to seperate your personal feelings about his career and movies and try to be objective as to how they actually performed. Objectively speaking, his most recent films are either making shitloads of money or been major award winning critical successes. His career is better than good in that regard. His choices have not hurt him at all. That he's made money is undeniable, that he's won an Oscar is as well. But to say his career is in good shape for those reasons is missing the point as to how much his career has atrophied in terms of delivering widely-liked blockbuster entertainments. Pretty much every Disney live-action remake made lots of money, that doesn't mean his Aladdin was nearly as culturally vibrant/relevant as Men in Black, Independence Day, Enemy of the State, etc. He's coasting on 90s fumes. Not true. Dumbo was a major box office disappointment, and that came right after Aladdin. These films are not guaranteed to perform and that's why they cast guys like Smith as an insurance policy and keep it moving.
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Post by futuretrunks on Mar 30, 2022 3:02:52 GMT
That he's made money is undeniable, that he's won an Oscar is as well. But to say his career is in good shape for those reasons is missing the point as to how much his career has atrophied in terms of delivering widely-liked blockbuster entertainments. Pretty much every Disney live-action remake made lots of money, that doesn't mean his Aladdin was nearly as culturally vibrant/relevant as Men in Black, Independence Day, Enemy of the State, etc. He's coasting on 90s fumes. Not true. Dumbo was a major box office disappointment, and that came right after Aladdin. These film guaranteed to perform and that's why they give guys like Smith a dumb watch and keep it moving. Dumbo, while recognizable, is just less popular IP than marquee animated films like Beauty and the Beast, Snow White, Cinderella, The Lion King, etc.
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Post by wallsofjericho on Mar 30, 2022 3:06:54 GMT
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Post by futuretrunks on Mar 30, 2022 3:23:59 GMT
Can Will just stop making shitty movies with Akiva Goldsman types? Like imagine the defense I'd have to generate out of the blue if every 3rd Winslet movie was that Collateral Beauty tripe?
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