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Post by quetee on Feb 17, 2021 2:55:03 GMT
Interesting that even when Trump isn't president anymore, it feels like he's still President. I never had this feeling before, and I expect it'll last for at least up to a year. Because of all the drama he caused that's why. It feels never ending.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 16, 2021 17:31:56 GMT
Falling right into the trap that Conservatives accuse them of - Left wing media bias: This made its way into the impeachment hearing (repeatedly referenced), and is now officially false - and retracted by the Washington Post themselves. This is maybe fabricating an entire key detail - a quote from Trump that he never said attributed to a source that maybe didn't exist at all (not certain that's the case, but quite possible and reprinted and never corroborated). Yikes..... ****************************************************************************************** “Correction: Two months after publication of this story, the Georgia secretary of state released an audio recording of President Donald Trump’s December phone call with the state’s top elections investigator. The recording revealed that The (Washington) Post misquoted Trump’s comments on the call, based on information provided by a source,” the correction published Thursday began.
“Trump did not tell the investigator to ‘find the fraud’ or say she would be ‘a national hero’ if she did so. Instead, Trump urged the investigator to scrutinize ballots in Fulton County, Ga., asserting she would find ‘dishonesty’ there. He also told her that she had ‘the most important job in the country right now.'nypost.com/2021/03/15/washington-post-runs-correction-admitting-it-misquoted-trump/
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 16, 2021 22:24:45 GMT
Shoddy reporting on the Post's part but Trump does a great job incriminating himself in the phone call which I've listened to in its entirety. He didn't say "find the fraud", but he did ask Raffensperger to "find" votes (his specific words were: " I just want to find 11,780 votes") while both reaffirming the lie that he won Georgia by "hundreds of thousands of votes" and pressing Raffensperger and Ryan Germany to investigate conspiracy theories that had already been debunked by state auditors (which was all very gently explained to Trump who becomes audibly increasingly agitated). He also tried to intimidate Raffensperger for what he describes as allowing fraud to happen, which of course is a criminal offense. in any case, regardless of that correction, the Post already posted the entire transcript of the phone call on Jan 5th, three days after the call occurred. Anyone can double check if they want but I promise listening to the phone call is more entertaining/unnerving. Not sure what this correction means in legal terms for the potential DA investigation but I'd be amazed if the actual phone call which is publicly available and which surely investigators have already picked over in its entirety doesn't expose Trump to liability. He genuinely asks Raffensperger to find enough votes to change the result.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 16, 2021 22:34:08 GMT
I'm trying to figure out who the "she" is that's being referred to. I remember a woman being on the call and Trump is incredibly rude to her lol. But I'm having trouble finding out who she is and that NY Post article amazingly doesn't say either. Should be easy to find out I'd think... hell I could just dig up the call again, they probably say her name in there.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Mar 16, 2021 22:49:28 GMT
I'm trying to figure out who the "she" is that's being referred to. I remember a woman being on the call and Trump is incredibly rude to her lol. But I'm having trouble finding out who she is and that NY Post article amazingly doesn't say either. Should be easy to find out I'd think... hell I could just dig up the call again, they probably say her name in there. It's referring to a separate call with Frances Watson, Georgia's top elections investigator, not the Raffensperger call.
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Post by quetee on Mar 16, 2021 22:56:20 GMT
I listened to the whole thing. He did try to get them to overturn it.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 16, 2021 22:56:28 GMT
I'm trying to figure out who the "she" is that's being referred to. I remember a woman being on the call and Trump is incredibly rude to her lol. But I'm having trouble finding out who she is and that NY Post article amazingly doesn't say either. Should be easy to find out I'd think... hell I could just dig up the call again, they probably say her name in there. It's referring to a separate call with Frances Watson, Georgia's top elections investigator, not the Raffensperger call. hmmm ok, so this correction has nothing to do with the Jan 2nd call at all. That being the case I don't see hw it changes anything because the Raffensperger call is publicly available and pretty freaking damning on its own. Still, bad reporting on the Post's part.
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