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Post by TerryMontana on Dec 12, 2020 13:33:13 GMT
pupdurcs pacinoyes I have to admit I'm not a hardcore fan of the dude so I can't say I follow his every step but I just checked: Since Nymphomaniac, he's only made two well known movies, The Peanut Butter Falcon and Honey Boy. And it's not that these two were huge BO successes or award winners. The guy works indie? Ok, good for him. But he's out of mainstream Hollywood for about the last 10 years (since Transformers maybe?) and I see no way he's returning, esp. after this. Sure, he might keep doing indies but for my money he's done.
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Post by LaraQ on Dec 12, 2020 13:42:08 GMT
This whole thing is repulsive,but the part about him killing stray dogs is downright psychopathic.
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 12, 2020 13:42:17 GMT
pupdurcs pacinoyes I have to admit I'm not a hardcore fan of the dude so I can't say I follow his every step but I just checked: Since Nymphomaniac, he's only made two well known movies, The Peanut Butter Falcon and Honey Boy. And it's not that these two were huge BO successes or award winners. The guy works indie? Ok, good for him. But he's out of mainstream Hollywood for about the last 10 years (since Transformeres maybe?) and I see no way he's returning, esp. after this. Sure, he might keep doing indies but for my money he's done. Labeouf is out of the mainstream of Hollywood filmmaking by choice though, and that is a very clear distinction. The guy has stayed on the radar of mainstream Hollywood (he got MVP reviews for his performance in Fury in 2014, a Brad Pitt vehicle) and I'm pretty sure he regularly turns down a lot of mainstream and studio offers. Yeah, he may be done after this incident. But honestly, I think he was more or less in the driving seat before this, in terms of where he wanted to take his career.
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Post by TerryMontana on Dec 12, 2020 14:02:07 GMT
pupdurcs pacinoyes I have to admit I'm not a hardcore fan of the dude so I can't say I follow his every step but I just checked: Since Nymphomaniac, he's only made two well known movies, The Peanut Butter Falcon and Honey Boy. And it's not that these two were huge BO successes or award winners. The guy works indie? Ok, good for him. But he's out of mainstream Hollywood for about the last 10 years (since Transformeres maybe?) and I see no way he's returning, esp. after this. Sure, he might keep doing indies but for my money he's done. Labeouf is out of the mainstream of Hollywood filmmaking by choice though, and that is a very clear distinction. The guy has stayed on the radar of mainstream Hollywood (he got MVP reviews for his performance in Fury in 2014, a Brad Pitt vehicle) and I'm pretty sure he regularly turns down a lot of mainstream and studio offers. Yeah, he may be done after this incident. But honestly, I think he was more or less in the driving seat before this, in terms of where he wanted to take his career. Well, if he wanted to just do indie cinema and leave mainstream Hollywood, then he obviously made it!! Imo he wasn't that a big star so he could return to big budget movies and projects any time he wanted to, but it's ok. We'll never know, after what happened...
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Post by dazed on Dec 12, 2020 14:07:11 GMT
Hate to hear it, especially since LaBeouf has been one of my favourite actors. Dude is talented as hell. I’m happy that FKA Twigs was able to garner up the ability to come out with this information. It’s good that we’re slowly getting to a place where victims aren’t silent anymore. Although we still have a long way to go.
To be fair though, he didn’t admit to these allegations like another post in here said. He came out with a statement saying that most of them are false. So this is going to be ongoing.
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Post by dazed on Dec 12, 2020 14:10:26 GMT
pupdurcs pacinoyes I have to admit I'm not a hardcore fan of the dude so I can't say I follow his every step but I just checked: Since Nymphomaniac, he's only made two well known movies, The Peanut Butter Falcon and Honey Boy. And it's not that these two were huge BO successes or award winners. The guy works indie? Ok, good for him. But he's out of mainstream Hollywood for about the last 10 years (since Transformeres maybe?) and I see no way he's returning, esp. after this. Sure, he might keep doing indies but for my money he's done. Labeouf is out of the mainstream of Hollywood filmmaking by choice though, and that is a very clear distinction. The guy has stayed on the radar of mainstream Hollywood (he got MVP reviews for his performance in Fury in 2014, a Brad Pitt vehicle) and I'm pretty sure he regularly turns down a lot of mainstream and studio offers. Yeah, he may be done after this incident. But honestly, I think he was more or less in the driving seat before this, in terms of where he wanted to take his career. 100% I’m surprised to see other people saying otherwise here. 2019 was considered a huge comeback year for him, with Peanut Butter Falcon and Honey Boy giving him some of this biggest raves (one of which he did the screenplay for). Those movies played really well with the general audience. Here’s some articles just to give evidence about that narrative: www.ksdk.com/article/entertainment/movies/shia-labeouf-comeback-year-peanutbutter-falcon-honey-boy/63-4147ec8c-3bee-4cc5-9b8f-4ef26f1f4869medium.com/better-marketing/how-shia-labeouf-destroyed-his-brand-and-fully-rebuilt-it-from-scratch-95a110be1916www.theringer.com/movies/2020/8/5/21355091/shia-labeouf-tax-collector-review
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Dec 12, 2020 14:33:27 GMT
OK, let's just pretend for a moment that Laboeuf is not getting canceled : Will you guys be able to enjoy/appreciate any of his performances from now on? Are you going to learn how to separate the man from the artist?
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Post by Drish on Dec 12, 2020 14:57:26 GMT
OK, let's just pretend for a moment that Laboeuf is not getting canceled : Will you guys be able to enjoy/appreciate any of his performances from now on? Are you going to learn how to separate the man from the artist? Separating art from the artists, while I understand when people say this, is something I've never been able to do. Dustin Hoffman used to be my favorite actor of all time but after so many women had such allegations on him...☹️ Idk.. I don't think I'd ever want to watch or rewatch anything he's done. And as a movie lover, it sucks. It might be immature on my part but when it comes to something as disgusting as this, I doubt I'll be able to see them on screen even if they are giving some amazing performances. I think it just depends person to person. Some people have no problem watching their stuff and good for them.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 12, 2020 15:42:45 GMT
pupdurcs pacinoyes I have to admit I'm not a hardcore fan of the dude so I can't say I follow his every step but I just checked: Since Nymphomaniac, he's only made two well known movies, The Peanut Butter Falcon and Honey Boy. And it's not that these two were huge BO successes or award winners. Th e guy works indie? Ok, good for him. But he's out of mainstream Hollywood for about the last 10 years (since Transformers maybe?) and I see no way he's returning, esp. after this.
Exactly - he was big time in small time sh it .......I'm being a little mean but if people were going to stretch it and be like "he's talented! (not as an actor so far) and doing what he wanted!" I'd say he was settling anyway..........if anything would have helped him it's the De Niro film and he lost out on that before this stuff happened anyway and he got replaced by Miles Teller not Ryan Gosling or Robert Pattinson yanno? Ask most people irl if they've heard of Peanut Butter Falcon or Honey Boy of heard of them for HIS acting - this is very inside baseball message board chatter .............and in the real world it barely registers......and now he'll just register............less.
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Post by stephen on Dec 12, 2020 15:47:03 GMT
OK, let's just pretend for a moment that Laboeuf is not getting canceled : Will you guys be able to enjoy/appreciate any of his performances from now on? Are you going to learn how to separate the man from the artist? My perspective on it is this: the work he has done is fair game and up to the viewer to determine its worth. There are people out there who might respond to something like Even Stevens or Honey Boy or American Honey and have had such a positive reaction to it that shouldn't be invalidated because one of the creatives behind it turns out to be a raging asshole. Where you go from here in your relationship with LaBeouf's future work (if there is any) is another matter entirely.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 12, 2020 15:50:37 GMT
OK, let's just pretend for a moment that Laboeuf is not getting canceled : Will you guys be able to enjoy/appreciate any of his performances from now on? Are you going to learn how to separate the man from the artist? I always separate the artist from the Art but in his particular case I'd say he's one of the few truly disingenuous people whose Art is tainted by the artist - by that I mean he's con-man in real life (it seems) and it segues into his performances/acting which is often fake and posturing. I mean as an actor you have to be able to sell it.......he's never sold me on anything yet......
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Post by CookiesNCream on Dec 14, 2020 1:20:02 GMT
OK, let's just pretend for a moment that Laboeuf is not getting canceled : Will you guys be able to enjoy/appreciate any of his performances from now on? Are you going to learn how to separate the man from the artist? Separating art from the artists, while I understand when people say this, is something I've never been able to do. Dustin Hoffman used to be my favorite actor of all time but after so many women had such allegations on him...☹️ Idk.. I don't think I'd ever want to watch or rewatch anything he's done. And as a movie lover, it sucks. It might be immature on my part but when it comes to something as disgusting as this, I doubt I'll be able to see them on screen even if they are giving some amazing performances. I think it just depends person to person. Some people have no problem watching their stuff and good for them. I'm kinda 50/50 on this concept. I have no problem separating the art from the artist for the most part, but then it also might depend on how severe the artist's allegations or transgressions are. Keep in mind that an actor's reputation in this case does not reflect the work or an entire hardworking team of other actors, directors, etc. associated with said problematic actor. But I also get how someone might strongly feel about an artist can become the exception there.
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Post by CookiesNCream on Dec 14, 2020 1:31:18 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 14, 2020 21:35:37 GMT
hmmmmmmmm The actor — who came under fire in recent days after ex-girlfriend FKA Twigs accused him of abuse — stepped out to grab some grub at LA’s Cava on Sunday wearing a mask with “Love Me Like You Hate Me” printed on it. The mask is a piece of merchandise from the NSFW short-film music video LaBeouf and Margaret Qualley shot for Rainsford’s song with that title.pagesix.com/2020/12/14/shia-labeouf-sends-bizarre-message-amid-fka-twigs-lawsuit/
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Dec 14, 2020 22:07:55 GMT
OF COURSE he'd have a mask that says that...
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Post by jakesully on Dec 14, 2020 23:45:10 GMT
OF COURSE he'd have a mask that says that... No kidding smh. God I would love to knock his teeth out.
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Dec 15, 2020 4:24:04 GMT
OK, let's just pretend for a moment that Laboeuf is not getting canceled : Will you guys be able to enjoy/appreciate any of his performances from now on? Are you going to learn how to separate the man from the artist? Separating art from the artists, while I understand when people say this, is something I've never been able to do. Dustin Hoffman used to be my favorite actor of all time but after so many women had such allegations on him...☹️ Idk.. I don't think I'd ever want to watch or rewatch anything he's done. And as a movie lover, it sucks. It might be immature on my part but when it comes to something as disgusting as this, I doubt I'll be able to see them on screen even if they are giving some amazing performances. I think it just depends person to person. Some people have no problem watching their stuff and good for them. Imagine never seeing masterworks like ALL THE PRESIDENTS MEN, MIDNIGHT COWBOY or WAG THE DOG ever again because of something as flimsy & unconvincing as those half-baked accusations against Hoffman. Madness!! 🤦♂️ Anyone who "takes a stand" like this and thinks they're hurting or punishing anyone but THEMSELVES with it is just lying to themselves.
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 21, 2020 0:07:04 GMT
Hmm...Margaret Qualley looking to end her career early, I see. Wonder how soon it'll be before her mother and agents/publicists warn her that being with Labeouf right now is probably radioactive. It makes her look like a woman who doesn't support other women or care about their pain. This will hurt her (unless she decides to throw Shia under the bus later as well, which is always an option).Bad PR move.
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Post by Allenism on Dec 21, 2020 1:20:13 GMT
Geminis, amirite
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Dec 21, 2020 1:59:10 GMT
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Dec 21, 2020 2:17:17 GMT
She's obviously a huge Even Stevens fan
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Post by futuretrunks on Dec 21, 2020 4:10:22 GMT
Hmm... Margaret Qualley looking to end her career early, I see. Wonder how soon it'll be before her mother and agents/publicists warn her that being with Labeouf right now is probably radioactive. It makes her look like a woman who doesn't support other women or care about their pain. This will hurt her (unless she decides to throw Shia under the bus later as well, which is always an option).Bad PR move. Shia's crazy and a huge disappointment to me, but I'm not sure about all that. Look at Chris Brown. He's had some incidents post-Rihanna assault, but nothing nearly as crazy, and he's maintained his career. Shia isn't nearly as popular as Brown, but if he somehow treats Qualley decently, this thing of him treading water in the industry could go on indefinitely.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Dec 21, 2020 4:44:20 GMT
what can you say, she likes a project
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Post by countjohn on Dec 21, 2020 6:01:47 GMT
I usually don't make personal judgments on celebrities relationships but I've gotta say dating Shia seems like an extremely poor life choice. Don't really think she deserves to have her career hurt over this, she's not the one who did all this stuff, but it's not like she couldn't easily find a guy to date better looking than Shia and not an abusive psycho as a free bonus.
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Post by TerryMontana on Dec 21, 2020 6:31:49 GMT
What career exactly has she decided to finish?? She's very young and her career is just starting...
Bad decision, I'm afraid she'll regret it in the future.
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