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Post by urbanpatrician on Apr 2, 2017 5:17:23 GMT
Where's katyhun?
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Post by atn on Apr 2, 2017 5:28:36 GMT
armond white >>> everyone else
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Post by mhynson27 on Apr 2, 2017 9:34:30 GMT
armond white >>> everyone else Get the fuck outta here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 13:05:50 GMT
Armond White
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Post by urbanpatrician on Apr 2, 2017 13:07:20 GMT
armond white >>> everyone else Get the fuck outta here. Shush, PC boy.
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Post by erickeitel on Apr 2, 2017 22:18:20 GMT
This is what Armond White fans call good criticism.
It made $49 million this past weekend. Anybody who calls this good criticism is a dilettante.
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Post by atn on Apr 2, 2017 23:10:46 GMT
This is what Armond White fans call good criticism. It made $49 million this past weekend. Anybody who calls this good criticism is a dilettante.
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Post by erickeitel on Apr 2, 2017 23:47:44 GMT
No, really. He finds a movie about a talking baby offensive because of who the voice actor is. He adheres to the same "snowflake" mentality he loves to criticize.
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Post by moonman157 on Apr 2, 2017 23:51:30 GMT
The people saying Armond White are off their rocker in my opinion. He used to be a great critic which makes his tremendous decline rather dispiriting and kind of embarrassing to watch.
I mean sometimes there are still flashes of that fierce intellect but he's really fallen into the Cultural Studies' trend towards the invention of meaning where there is none rather than doing the work to uncover something substantial. He still gets points for taking a more political approach to film than most other critics feel necessary but even in that regard he's gone much too far I think.
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Post by stephen on Apr 2, 2017 23:54:31 GMT
My personal favorite is Manohla Dargis.
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Post by countjohn on Apr 3, 2017 0:15:11 GMT
Best- Richard Roeper and A.O. Scott. As for the OP's criticism of him, better to be "pompous", "snobby", and "pretentious" than just write reviews consisting of "That actor was good but the other actor wasn't. I liked the scene where x happened" that anyone could write. I find Armond White entertaining for the same reason. Even if he's trolly at least he's doing actual film criticism instead of the dull stuff 95% of critics do today.
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Post by atn on Apr 3, 2017 0:21:01 GMT
erickeitel and others a) stop taking things so seriously b) buy a calendar
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Post by atn on Apr 3, 2017 0:26:59 GMT
The people saying Armond White are off their rocker in my opinion. He used to be a great critic which makes his tremendous decline rather dispiriting and kind of embarrassing to watch. I mean sometimes there are still flashes of that fierce intellect but he's really fallen into the Cultural Studies' trend towards the invention of meaning where there is none rather than doing the work to uncover something substantial. He still gets points for taking a more political approach to film than most other critics feel necessary but even in that regard he's gone much too far I think. firstly, see above post. i agree he's dropped off but i still find his work more thought provoking than a good many critics. suppose my original post was somewhere in the grey area between irony and sincerity. reactions are hilarious tho, thx yall. edit: countjohn summed it up well
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Apr 3, 2017 0:53:50 GMT
Manohla Dargis is the best these days at talking about the actual craft of filmmaking rather than just heap labels on things with little thought actually put before them. Some honorable mentions would be Mark Kermode and Richard Brody, both of whom I don't agree with all the time and I actually think both can be prone to some odd displays of elitism (I say odd because they can sometimes act like they are above acclaimed arthouse fare just as easily as subpar blockbusters) but they are very good at making it understandable why they see films a certain way.
A lot of critics nowadays seem to be trying to outdo one another in terms of the hyperbolic personal reactions or manufactured outrage they can have so it could either be printed in a newspaper ad or shopped around as a "burn." And unfortunately, a lot of them do not have the writing talent or palpable passion for film that Ebert had when he went strictly personal, so it just reeks of buffoonery. Armond White used to be one of the absolute best and most unique voices in film criticism and that can sometimes still shine through (usually whenever it's a film that isn't a major release), but he's become the poster boy of this trend and it's gotten to the point where it just feels like a waste of time.
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Post by moonman157 on Apr 3, 2017 1:00:58 GMT
The people saying Armond White are off their rocker in my opinion. He used to be a great critic which makes his tremendous decline rather dispiriting and kind of embarrassing to watch. I mean sometimes there are still flashes of that fierce intellect but he's really fallen into the Cultural Studies' trend towards the invention of meaning where there is none rather than doing the work to uncover something substantial. He still gets points for taking a more political approach to film than most other critics feel necessary but even in that regard he's gone much too far I think. firstly, see above post. i agree he's dropped off but i still find his work more thought provoking than a good many critics. suppose my original post was somewhere in the grey area between irony and sincerity. reactions are hilarious tho, thx yall. edit: countjohn summed it up well I don't agree. There are plenty of great critics out there who write intelligent, thought-provoking criticism. Armond's tendency to ramble to the point of being nearly incoherent ultimately can obfuscate any genuinely useful insights into the films he's reviewing. These days it barely even seems like he has any interest in the films themselves at all, he just likes excuses to cavort around his intellectual gymnasium of political musings. I mean if he works for you that's good obviously, I just think there's so many critics out there writing interestingly that spending a lot of time with Armond doesn't make much sense for me.
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Post by eliuson on Apr 3, 2017 6:38:31 GMT
Best:Manohla Dargis,Richard Brody,David Thomson,Armond White and Kent Jones
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Post by erickeitel on Apr 3, 2017 11:45:54 GMT
erickeitel and others a) stop taking things so seriously b) buy a calendar When all else fails, just act like you're above it all.
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Post by no on Apr 3, 2017 13:19:09 GMT
Armond White comes across as contrarian too often, but when critics circle jerk a film, it is healthy to see some opposition, even if it devil's advocate. Besides, what is so wrong about a critic having differing opinions from you?
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Post by no on Apr 3, 2017 13:20:32 GMT
Idk but SchmoesKnow has got to be the worst.
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Post by stephen on Apr 3, 2017 13:24:05 GMT
Oh, and as for the worst, no contest: Lights, Camera, Jackson.
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Post by no on Apr 3, 2017 13:29:43 GMT
This is what Armond White fans call good criticism. It made $49 million this past weekend. Anybody who calls this good criticism is a dilettante. I fail to see your point tbh
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Post by atn on Apr 3, 2017 13:51:45 GMT
erickeitel and others a) stop taking things so seriously b) buy a calendar When all else fails, just act like you're above it all. Person 1 makes a half-joking/half-serious April fools remark Person 2 claims fans of a certain critic he disagrees with have little knowledge of film as an art, because of a convoluted point about snowflakes and an animated film's box office Person 1 tries to let on that he wasn't entirely serious to begin with, but even if he were Person 2 and others should lighten up a tad Person 2 labels this behavior as Person 1 acting like he is above it all Maybe I'm crazy, but it seems like Person 2 is somewhat out of touch with the conversation. Could be just me though.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 3, 2017 14:32:12 GMT
Ebert is my favorite. I doubt I'll ever like anyone more. I also have a strong affinity for Joe Morgenstern (Wall Street Journal), just because I love listening to his podcast. His writing is so eloquent and his voice is so soothing to me for some reason. www.kcrw.com/news-culture/shows/film-reviews
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Post by oneflyr on Apr 3, 2017 14:47:10 GMT
Mark Kermode is one of the worst.
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