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Post by sirjeremy on Nov 25, 2020 17:23:04 GMT
www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/glenn-close-gwyneth-paltrow-hillbilly-elegy-b1761550.htmlGlenn Close has revealed she thinks that Gwyneth Paltrow didn’t deserve to win her Oscar.
Paltrow took home the Best Actress trophy at the 1999 ceremony for her role in Shakespeare in Love.
It's considered one of the biggest surprises in Oscar history as many had predicted Cate Blanchett would win for Elizabeth.
However, Close was backing someone else altogether: Fernanda Montenegro for her role in Central Station, Walter Salles’s drama about a young boy's friendship with a jaded middle-aged woman.
Close was talking about the importance of awards ceremonies in a new interview with ABC News when she made it clear she believes Paltrow shouldn't have won.
“I remember the year that Gwyneth Paltrow won over that incredible actress who was in Central Station, and I thought, 'What?'” Close said.
She added: “It's like... you know... it doesn't make sense.”
Close is one of the favourites to win an Oscar in 2021 for her supporting role in Ron Howard's Netflix drama Hillbilly Elegy.
She has a total of seven nominations to her name, the first of which she received in 1983 for The World According to Garp.
Close's most recent nomination came in 2019 for The Wife, but she was beaten by The Favourite star Olivia Colman.
Hillbilly Elegy is on Netflix now.I love her honesty. It's so refreshing - every now and then she comes out with these really candid comments. I remember years ago reading that she said her co-star in Mary Reilly, Julia Roberts, was "terrible" in that film, and further back when she was nominated for Dangerous Liaisons, she told Barbara Walters that "I do deserve to win".
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 25, 2020 17:32:22 GMT
It's maybe not as bad as the article quite makes it sound.....this is the clip...~ 14:40. She seems to mean that it's hard to compare performances in general. Though it might be an implied diss too ......
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Post by TerryMontana on Nov 25, 2020 17:35:16 GMT
I prefer Blanchett in Elizabeth over Paltrow in SiL if you ask me, but that's not the most absurd Oscar decision ever....
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Post by stephen on Nov 25, 2020 17:40:27 GMT
I can see why people think this sort of thing is refreshing and hilarious, but it's the sort of petty jabbing that might speak to a larger underlying issue in why Glenn Close has never won an Oscar. Not to mention that it feels so much in punching down when it comes to someone like Paltrow, whose win has always copped so much flak and is unfortunately inextricably linked to Weinstein.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2020 17:57:11 GMT
sirjeremy - I've posted the Barbara Walters interview below - she says she felt she deserved to win for The World According to Garp, Fatal Attraction, and Dangerous Liaisons, but that she was simply happy to be included for The Big Chill and The Natural. She isn't petty and she isn't jabbing anyone.
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Post by mattfincher on Nov 25, 2020 17:57:30 GMT
Yeah, contextually it's not really as bad as it's being made out to be and I think she was trying to make a point about the futility of comparing artists (but ironically got caught up in making a comparison herself). Still, Close has always struck me as not necessarily the most warm and gregarious of personalities and I do wonder if that has contributed to her seven losses. I'm not saying she's Tommy Lee Jones, but I don't think she suffers fools or is into back patting every single person in the industry either.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2020 18:01:49 GMT
Yeah, contextually it's not really as bad as it's being made out to be and I think she was trying to make a point about the futility of comparing artists (but ironically got caught up in making a comparison herself). Still, Close has always struck me as not necessarily the most warm and gregarious of personalities and I do wonder if that has contributed to her seven losses. I'm not saying she's Tommy Lee Jones, but I don't think she suffers fools or is into back patting every single person in the industry either. She is incredibly warm and gracious in every single interview I've ever seen her give (which is a lot, haha). I really think this is an example of a woman's onscreen personae being linked to her personal persona - see also: Isabelle Huppert and Charlotte Rampling.
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Post by LaraQ on Nov 25, 2020 18:25:22 GMT
She didn't deserve to win.I know Weinstein pushed both her and the film very,very hard at the time.This was back when he had an enormous amount of power and influence.He also started a very effective whispering campaign about Saving Private Ryan, which helped to kill its chances.Its insane to think that a film like that lost to Shakespeare in Love.
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Post by MsMovieStar on Nov 25, 2020 18:30:31 GMT
Oh honey, I agree with LaraQ... Unless Weinstein writes a book, we'll never know who were those that Weinstein fixed Oscars for - obviously not those that weren't involved with the Weinstein/Miramax empire.
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Post by quetee on Nov 25, 2020 18:57:54 GMT
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Post by fiosnasiob on Nov 25, 2020 20:26:10 GMT
I always was team Fernanda Montenegro until few years ago when I rewatched Elizabeth....that was Catherine Elise Blanchett's oscar.
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 25, 2020 20:42:03 GMT
Tbh Close regardless of what she has ever said is kind of amazing in how she conducts herself because her position must be maddening........she is so singularly odd: I said this a lot about her but she has 23 Triple Crown nods - 23 (!) that's an insane amount.......only Streep exceeds her among people at her level (26 total and 21 of hers are in 1 medium) and Close has by far the most balanced work across all mediums for any American ever.......she may get her 24th this year....she may be the sole nod for her 2nd film in a row in her 70s now........it's unheard of and not often fully considered because those are dizzying stats. To walk around with those credentials and ONLY have to hear about your Oscar losses so much.......well I'd be drinking a bottle of gin and sticking pins in a Paltrow voodoo doll.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Nov 25, 2020 21:49:01 GMT
I've said it before, but I'll say it again... had Close made a scented candle of her vajazzled vajayjay, she'd have an Oscar too. Until then, it's up in the air.
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Post by mhynson27 on Nov 26, 2020 1:20:04 GMT
I can see why people think this sort of thing is refreshing and hilarious, but it's the sort of petty jabbing that might speak to a larger underlying issue in why Glenn Close has never won an Oscar. Not to mention that it feels so much in punching down when it comes to someone like Paltrow, whose win has always copped so much flak and is unfortunately inextricably linked to Weinstein.
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Post by Good God on Nov 26, 2020 7:11:31 GMT
Tbh Close regardless of what she has ever said is kind of amazing in how she conducts herself because her position must be maddening........she is so singularly odd: I said this a lot about her but she has 23 Triple Crown nods - 23 (!) that's an insane amount.......only Streep exceeds her among people at her level (26 total and 21 of hers are in 1 medium) and Close has by far the most balanced work across all mediums for any American ever.......she may get her 24th this year....she may be the sole nod for her 2nd film in a row in her 70s now........it's unheard of and not often fully considered because those are dizzying stats. To walk around with those credentials and ONLY have to hear about your Oscar losses so much.......well I'd be drinking a bottle of gin and sticking pins in a Paltrow voodoo doll. I think Close not having won an Oscar is actually benefitting her at this late stage of her career. People want to capitalize on her "overdue" status and know that they can get awards attention for their film on the back of Close's narrative, which is perhaps diverting certain roles her way that wouldn't necessarily go to her otherwise. Just look at the attention The Wife and Albert Nobbs got. Or, for that matter, Hillbilly Elegy. I don't think any of those movies would have gotten the same attention if Close had already won for, say, Dangerous Liaisons. Close risks becoming "old news" once she wins an Oscar, so I think her career will actually benefit from her Oscar win being delayed as much as possible.
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Post by stabcaesar on Nov 26, 2020 7:20:51 GMT
I feel bad that Gwyneth Paltrow keeps getting jab for her Oscar when truly atrocious wins like Jennifer Lawrence or Halle Berry or Natalie Portman or Meryl Streep's third never did. She wasn't the best of that year, but rarely does the best performance of the year ever win, and she was actually good in a very good film.
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Post by sirjeremy on Nov 27, 2020 8:36:16 GMT
sirjeremy - I've posted the Barbara Walters interview below - she says she felt she deserved to win for The World According to Garp, Fatal Attraction, and Dangerous Liaisons, but that she was simply happy to be included for The Big Chill and The Natural. She isn't petty and she isn't jabbing anyone. Thanks for posting that. I'd never seen it and always thought the interview took place in 1989, when she was nominated for Dangerous Liasions. @tyler This recent talk she did is an interesting and fun watch:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2020 15:25:58 GMT
pacinoyes - I actually think the closest to Glenn would be either Helen Mirren or Maggie Smith - someone British, at any rate. As you say, Streep hasn't done nearly as much theatre or television. Close - 12 Emmy nominations; 7 Oscar nominations; 4 Tony nominations. Mirren - 11 Emmy nominations; 4 Oscar nominations; 3 Tony nominations. Smith - 9 Emmy nominations; 6 Oscar nominations; 3 Tony nominations. There's also Judy Davis and Isabelle Huppert, but despite their sterling theatre backgrounds, they have no Tony nominations - not much theatre in New York for either of them. sirjeremy - Yes! I watched it last night. I had no idea she was the original choice for Vanessa Redgrave's part in The Bostonians! Could you have seen her there? As an aside, I love her home décor - so cozy and yet very elegant.
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Post by filmnoir on Nov 27, 2020 22:21:41 GMT
I always was team Fernanda Montenegro until few years ago when I rewatched Elizabeth....that was Catherine Elise Blanchett's oscar. Cate Blanchett was a Hollywood newcomer at that point. Of course she has since morphed into a big name actress. She did win with her next nod for The Aviator. And Blue Jasmine has to be one of the most awarded performances.
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Post by pupdurcs on Nov 27, 2020 22:41:40 GMT
This was actually an incredible year for Best Actress. People are talking about Montenegro and Blanchett, and rightfully so. But Emily Watson in Hilary And Jackie was jaw-droppingly good to me, and she would easily have deserved the win as well. Watson's peak was short, but my god, for a few years in the 90's, she was crushing it with detailed and intense performances like she was the female Daniel Day-Lewis or something.
Considering the level of competition in her category, it is kind of ridiculous that Paltrow won. And I think Paltrow gave a nice performance and effective movie star turn, but at least three of the women in her category were several levels above her.
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 27, 2020 23:22:21 GMT
pacinoyes - I actually think the closest to Glenn would be either Helen Mirren or Maggie Smith - someone British, at any rate. As you say, Streep hasn't done nearly as much theatre or television. Close - 12 Emmy nominations; 7 Oscar nominations; 4 Tony nominations. Mirren - 11 Emmy nominations; 4 Oscar nominations; 3 Tony nominations. Smith - 9 Emmy nominations; 6 Oscar nominations; 3 Tony nominations. It really is so staggering a statistic actually that Close even transcends American males also on her general status level - if you look at the American males - at least those equal to her 7 Oscar nods and also nominated in all 3 mediums - they also get obliterated by her cumulative totals as well ......it's one of my favorite stats: Triple Crown Acting Nominations: Lemmon: 15 (5 Emmy, 8 Oscar, 2 Tony) Pacino: 15 (3 Emmy, 9 Oscar, 3 Tony) Newman: 12 (2 Emmy, 9 Oscar, 1 Tony) Hoffman : 9 (1 Emmy, 7 Oscar, 1 Tony)
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Post by quetee on Nov 28, 2020 0:06:07 GMT
This was actually an incredible year for Best Actress. People are talking about Montenegro and Blanchett, and rightfully so. But Emily Watson in Hilary And Jackie was jaw-droppingly good to me, and she would easily have deserved the win as well. Watson's peak was short, but my god, for a few years in the 90's, she was crushing it with detailed and intense performances like she was the female Daniel Day-Lewis or something. Considering the level of competition in her category, it is kind of ridiculous that Paltrow won. And I think Paltrow gave a nice performance and effective movie star turn, but at least three of the women in her category were several levels above her. The worst part about it is that she has never been nominated again while everyone else except for Montenegro who was 68 at the time has scored at least another nod/win.
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Post by JangoB on Nov 28, 2020 0:13:23 GMT
This was actually an incredible year for Best Actress. People are talking about Montenegro and Blanchett, and rightfully so. But Emily Watson in Hilary And Jackie was jaw-droppingly good to me, and she would easily have deserved the win as well. Watson's peak was short, but my god, for a few years in the 90's, she was crushing it with detailed and intense performances like she was the female Daniel Day-Lewis or something. Considering the level of competition in her category, it is kind of ridiculous that Paltrow won. And I think Paltrow gave a nice performance and effective movie star turn, but at least three of the women in her category were several levels above her. That's what I'm talking about. Emily Watson is the real 1998 champion
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Post by hugobolso on Nov 28, 2020 0:14:21 GMT
www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/glenn-close-gwyneth-paltrow-hillbilly-elegy-b1761550.htmlGlenn Close has revealed she thinks that Gwyneth Paltrow didn’t deserve to win her Oscar.
Paltrow took home the Best Actress trophy at the 1999 ceremony for her role in Shakespeare in Love.
It's considered one of the biggest surprises in Oscar history as many had predicted Cate Blanchett would win for Elizabeth.
However, Close was backing someone else altogether: Fernanda Montenegro for her role in Central Station, Walter Salles’s drama about a young boy's friendship with a jaded middle-aged woman.
Close was talking about the importance of awards ceremonies in a new interview with ABC News when she made it clear she believes Paltrow shouldn't have won.
“I remember the year that Gwyneth Paltrow won over that incredible actress who was in Central Station, and I thought, 'What?'” Close said.
She added: “It's like... you know... it doesn't make sense.”
Close is one of the favourites to win an Oscar in 2021 for her supporting role in Ron Howard's Netflix drama Hillbilly Elegy.
She has a total of seven nominations to her name, the first of which she received in 1983 for The World According to Garp.
Close's most recent nomination came in 2019 for The Wife, but she was beaten by The Favourite star Olivia Colman.
Hillbilly Elegy is on Netflix now.I love her honesty. It's so refreshing - every now and then she comes out with these really candid comments. I remember years ago reading that she said her co-star in Mary Reilly, Julia Roberts, was "terrible" in that film, and further back when she was nominated for Dangerous Liaisons, she told Barbara Walters that "I do deserve to win". I guess is an old interview.-
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Post by flasuss on Nov 28, 2020 0:27:13 GMT
pacinoyes - I actually think the closest to Glenn would be either Helen Mirren or Maggie Smith - someone British, at any rate. As you say, Streep hasn't done nearly as much theatre or television. Close - 12 Emmy nominations; 7 Oscar nominations; 4 Tony nominations. Mirren - 11 Emmy nominations; 4 Oscar nominations; 3 Tony nominations. Smith - 9 Emmy nominations; 6 Oscar nominations; 3 Tony nominations. It really is so staggering a statistic actually that Close even transcends American males also on her general status level - if you look at the American males - at least those equal to her 7 Oscar nods and also nominated in all 3 mediums - they also get obliterated by her cumulative totals as well ......it's one of my favorite stats: Triple Crown Acting Nominations: Lemmon: 15 (5 Emmy, 8 Oscar, 2 Tony) Pacino: 15 (3 Emmy, 9 Oscar, 3 Tony) Newman: 12 (2 Emmy, 9 Oscar, 1 Tony) Hoffman : 9 (1 Emmy, 7 Oscar, 1 Tony)
To be fair, TV wasn't really all that prestigious for actors when Lemmon was alive (and he still got 5), or at the time of the others were working more- the rise of prestige TV is more of a 21st century thing.
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