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Post by Good God on Jan 13, 2020 15:49:05 GMT
Tom Hanks for Captain Phillips or Taron Egerton for Rocketman?
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 13, 2020 15:56:22 GMT
they both hit all the precursors but Hanks didn't win a Globe so it's Egerton for me.
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Post by quetee on Jan 13, 2020 15:57:45 GMT
Considering Tom didn't campaign like c razy, it has got to be Taron.
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Post by Zeb31 on Jan 13, 2020 16:03:39 GMT
Hanks didn't campaign as much as Egerton and didn't have a Globe win to his credit, but Captain Phillips was a much stronger film with 6 nominations including Best Picture and Supporting Actor, which makes the snubbing of the lead a much bigger headscratcher. Rocketman got only 1 nomination and couldn't even crack an expanded Makeup field. It always struck me as more of a Globe player than an Oscar one.
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Post by Good God on Jan 13, 2020 16:11:31 GMT
Hanks didn't campaign as much as Egerton and didn't have a Globe win to his credit, but Captain Phillips was a much stronger film with 6 nominations including Best Picture and Supporting Actor, which makes the snubbing of the lead a much bigger headscratcher. Rocketman got only 1 nomination and couldn't even crack an expanded Makeup field. It always struck me as more of a Globe player than an Oscar one. Yeah, even though Egerton performed better at the precursors, it felt like his snub was potentially always on the cards. And with this being such a deep year, there was almost bound to be an unprecedented snub. I think they're close, but I'll go with Hanks too.
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Post by morton on Jan 13, 2020 16:23:29 GMT
Hanks didn't campaign as much as Egerton and didn't have a Globe win to his credit, but Captain Phillips was a much stronger film with 6 nominations including Best Picture and Supporting Actor, which makes the snubbing of the lead a much bigger headscratcher. Rocketman got only 1 nomination and couldn't even crack an expanded Makeup field. It always struck me as more of a Globe player than an Oscar one. Yeah, even though Egerton performed better at the precursors, it felt like his snub was potentially always on the cards. And with this being such a deep year, there was almost bound to be an unprecedented snub. I think they're close, but I'll go with Hanks too. Yeah I voted for Hanks for this reason. I thought that Egerton was going to be in because of his Globe win, but without that he seemed like the annual snubee. In hindsight though, even with the Globes win, it doesn't seem that surprising Egerton missed because there were shenanigans going on with that win, and the Globes can be easily influenced sometimes somewhat similar to when Aaron Taylor-Johnson won a Globe, and Tom Ford just happened to give each voting member an expensive gift. Plus Egerton's age was another big factor. He's not especially young, but 30 is still on the younger side for this category unless you're the critics favorite/in a strong film like Chalamet or Kaluuya, and Egerton had neither.
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Post by Good God on Jan 13, 2020 16:27:33 GMT
Yeah I voted for Hanks for this reason. I thought that Egerton was going to be in because of his Globe win, but without that he seemed like the annual snubee. In hindsight though, even with the Globes win, it doesn't seem that surprising Egerton missed because there were shenanigans going on with that win, and the Globes can be easily influenced sometimes somewhat similar to when Aaron Taylor-Johnson won a Globe, and Tom Ford just happened to give each voting member an expensive gift. Plus Egerton's age was another big factor. He's not especially young, but 30 is still on the younger side for this category unless you're the critics favorite/in a strong film like Chalamet or Kaluuya, and Egerton had neither. Yeah, the Globes win isn't very convincing in hindsight given what happened behind the scenes. And Egerton was the perfect "slap the stud" victim not just because of his age, but also because he has the looks. People kept saying Redmayne and Malek won, but they're not really lookers like Egerton is.
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Post by stephen on Jan 13, 2020 17:04:59 GMT
Hanks. Egerton won the Globe and was campaigning vigorously, but they really didn't go for his film (probably due to musical biopic fatigue post-Bohemian Rhapsody and the early release). Hanks by rights should have been safe, but fell victim to a well-strategized push for a movie in an already overcrowded Best Actor lineup.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 13, 2020 17:07:10 GMT
Hanks Hanks Hanks Hanks Hanks
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Post by rhodoraonline on Jan 15, 2020 14:50:38 GMT
I don't get how anyone can reach the conclusion of Egerton even being a snub given that who's "already in the club" and who is on the outside looking in is often a major factor. Egerton is a nerver-nominated guy. He's still up and coming. He was not even stronger than other unnominated contenders from his race, especially Bale who would probably had replaced Pryce if Two Popes had a less strong showing. If not, it would have been DeNiro.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 15, 2020 15:05:16 GMT
I don't get how anyone can reach the conclusion of Egerton even being a snub given that who's "already in the club" and who is on the outside looking in is often a major factor. Egerton is a nerver-nominated guy. Yes, exactly right - it also stuns me also that people who go crazy on here and in general in reading industry trends and precursors can miss the most obvious trends - ie actors with nods already not then hitting a wall with their nomination totals as they get older. That happens to everyone, period (except Streep ) - maybe someone else will buck the trend but it's a historical fact so far, you're arguing for something that has, as of yet, never happened. Similarly that hardest nod to get is the first nod......so Hanks for a bunch of reasons including that one.
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