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Post by MoonShadow on Jan 10, 2020 4:41:27 GMT
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Post by MoonShadow on Jan 10, 2020 5:05:28 GMT
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Post by stabcaesar on Jan 10, 2020 5:31:47 GMT
It's probably unpopular opinion at this point. I liked Laura Dern in Marriage Story and thought she was the 2nd MVP of the film (after Alda). She wasn't given much to do but she made the most out of her brief scenes and would be the best winner of the decade by a mile (though that's mostly because the supporting actress winners have been absolute trash across the board this decade).
Janney was ok.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 10, 2020 5:48:28 GMT
Dern doing practically nothing is better than Janney doing the wrong things.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Jan 10, 2020 5:50:47 GMT
Dern doing practically nothing is better than Janney doing the wrong things. This, this, this! |
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Post by MoonShadow on Jan 10, 2020 6:35:39 GMT
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 10, 2020 10:26:26 GMT
Maybe Janney. I still can't understand why Dern's win is such a sure thing. Her performance was quite good but not really special.
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Post by filmnoir on Jan 10, 2020 17:14:23 GMT
Maybe Janney. I still can't understand why Dern's win is such a sure thing. Her performance was quite good but not really special. Big critics wins from New York Film Critics, National Society of Film Critics, Vancouver, Toronto, Boston, Phoenix and several regional awards. Won her 5th Globe. She has a big Oscar scene in Marriage Story. And she is well respected and liked with her peers.
Janney wasn't the critics favorite. Laurie Metcalf was, but per Gold Derby, unlike Janney, she didn't campaign.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 10, 2020 17:23:22 GMT
Maybe Janney. I still can't understand why Dern's win is such a sure thing. Her performance was quite good but not really special. Big critics wins from New York Film Critics, National Society of Film Critics, Vancouver, Toronto, Boston, Phoenix and several regional awards. Won her 5th Globe. She has a big Oscar scene in Marriage Story. And she is well respected and liked with her peers.
Janney wasn't the critics favorite. Laurie Metcalf was, but per Gold Derby, unlike Janney, she didn't campaign.
I agree with all that. Just saying I wasn't so impressed with her performance in MS. I expected something really special from her because everyone considered her unbeatable in the supporting actress category (and she is). |
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 10, 2020 18:30:14 GMT
Both massively overrated but at least Janney was somehow entertaining so her.
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Post by cheesecake on Jan 10, 2020 23:17:21 GMT
Janney didn't wow me but at least she left an impression.
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Post by Allenism on Jan 11, 2020 2:20:20 GMT
Both cinematic low points on their respective CVs. I'd give the slight edge to Janney because at least she tried.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Jan 15, 2020 13:36:01 GMT
Dern
I may not think much of her performance, but at least I don't hate it, like I do that Janney shit show.
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Post by ibbi on Jan 15, 2020 13:46:53 GMT
I think Dern's highs (the office scene with Alda, the courtroom scenes with Liotta) were really nice and probably liked them better than Janney's sublime one note ranting and raving.
Still, even if Janney was simplistic and one note, she played that note perfectly the whole way through, and didn't have anything as ass suckingly awful as Laura Dern's big final scene which is obviously the reason she's going to win this Oscar, and the clip they're obviously going to show for her again and again.
So edge to Janney.
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Post by rhodoraonline on Jan 15, 2020 15:26:58 GMT
Laura Dern's win would represent nothing but career respect.
Janney created and inhabited a character that was a blast to watch and a great foil for Robbie's Tonya. Well-deserved win.
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Post by fiosnasiob on Jan 15, 2020 16:13:46 GMT
Janney. Dern was okay, nothing special at all. She could have done the same thing as a guest star in a Sex and the City episode and no one would have given a c/ap about it. Despite being "flashy", she gets outshined by Scarlett the same way Pitt get outshined by Leo, what a couple of supporting oscars winners we have this year !
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Post by filmnoir on Jan 15, 2020 16:57:37 GMT
Laura Dern's win would represent nothing but career respect. Janney created and inhabited a character that was a blast to watch and a great foil for Robbie's Tonya. Well-deserved win. Janney played a real life person, so she did not "create" the character. Career respect help in her win. Laurie Metcalf dominated all the critics awards.
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Post by filmnoir on Jan 15, 2020 17:00:06 GMT
Janney. Dern was okay, nothing special at all. She could have done the same thing as a guest star in a Sex and the City episode and no one would have given a c/ap about it. Despite being "flashy", she gets outshined by Scarlett the same way Pitt get outshined by Leo, what a couple of supporting oscars winners we have this year ! Category fraud with Pitt - he's really co-lead. Scar Jo is lead. Dern is clearly supporting - like Regina King. |
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Post by rhodoraonline on Jan 15, 2020 19:34:15 GMT
Laura Dern's win would represent nothing but career respect. Janney created and inhabited a character that was a blast to watch and a great foil for Robbie's Tonya. Well-deserved win. Janney played a real life person, so she did not "create" the character. Career respect help in her win. Laurie Metcalf dominated all the critics awards.
Wrong word choice, my bad. By that I meant she had to become the character and inhabit another person. It wasn't just an impersonation. And it was just a career one. I consider it more akin to Simmons win for Whiplash. An undeniable supporting performance by a beloved industry veteran. In Dern's case she's missing the undeniable part. |
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Post by filmnoir on Jan 15, 2020 22:18:36 GMT
Janney played a real life person, so she did not "create" the character. Career respect help in her win. Laurie Metcalf dominated all the critics awards.
Wrong word choice, my bad. By that I meant she had to become the character and inhabit another person. It wasn't just an impersonation. And it was just a career one. I consider it more akin to Simmons win for Whiplash. An undeniable supporting performance by a beloved industry veteran. In Dern's case she's missing the undeniable part. Janney wasn't undeniable like Simmons - who dominated all the critics awards and televised awards. Laurie Metcalf was the critics favorite.
Dern won more awards than Janney and she has won more than anyone in her category. She actually has won more than Phoenix, Zellweger.
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Post by rhodoraonline on Jan 16, 2020 15:10:38 GMT
CI don't think critics awards are not a measure of undeniability in the industry itself.
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Post by filmnoir on Jan 16, 2020 15:53:21 GMT
CI don't think critics awards are not a measure of undeniability in the industry itself. But the definition of "undeniable" is someone who has swept the awards season - with the critics and televised precursors. |
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