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Post by Allenism on Jan 2, 2020 18:28:11 GMT
Just in terms of acting abilities:
Ralph Fiennes Colin Firth Jude Law
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 2, 2020 18:29:21 GMT
Fiennes
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Post by stephen on Jan 2, 2020 18:30:22 GMT
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Post by thomasjerome on Jan 2, 2020 18:31:22 GMT
Fiennes Law
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Post by Allenism on Jan 2, 2020 18:37:35 GMT
Damn, not A Single Man stans for Firth.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 2, 2020 18:47:48 GMT
Fiennes, Law, Firth
I say this all the time but Fiennes gave the single best stage performance I've ever seen and I've seen a lot of big names in big roles and I don't have to even think about it .....now the reason I mention that is, he's a better actor than his film career has shown and his film career has shown him to be a major actor.
If you compare him to the big 2 in his generation/class in the UK - DDL and Oldman - well, he's pulled of comedy far better than both, pulled off romantic leads better than both, he's the only one of those 3 that went on stage consistently (still, and still great too), and the only one who's starred in (multiple) BP winners.......his career hasn't done his talent justice.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 2, 2020 18:48:18 GMT
I agree with the majority here.
Fiennes Law Firth
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 18:51:37 GMT
1. Fiennes 2. Law
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3. Firth
The only performance of Firth's I've ever been hugely impressed with is A Single Man - I think Fiennes and Law are on a totally different level in terms of talent.
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Post by Allenism on Jan 2, 2020 18:54:31 GMT
1. Fiennes 2. Law ----- 3. Firth The only performance of Firth's I've ever been hugely impressed with is A Single Man - I think Fiennes and Law are on a totally different level in terms of talent. Don’t really disagree and sadly Firth is the only one with an Oscar.
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Post by rhodoraonline on Jan 3, 2020 1:21:53 GMT
Exactly
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 3, 2020 4:29:06 GMT
Fiennes Firth Law
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Post by isabelaolive on Jan 4, 2020 2:39:24 GMT
Fiennes Law Firth (I love Firth, but he's basically a poor man's version of Hugh Grant)
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 4, 2020 2:54:32 GMT
but seriously, where the hell has Law been. I feel like apart from maaaaaybe the Young Pope/ New Pope on the small screen, he hasn't done anything relevant since Cold Mountain. It's insane to me that he didn't levy his two Oscar nods into more prestige-y projects in the 2000s and basically dropped off the map until recently. Has any other career of a high-caliber A-list British actor been such a missed opportunity? I'll say this for Firth, he isn't the most versatile but he's goddamn reliable. He was great in 1984's underseen Another Country, and had a lot of success in the 90s and early 2000s in rom-coms like Bridget Jones and in costume dramas and romance. I remember him being all the rage back in the day, and for good reason. His Mr. Darcy will never be eclipsed. And all that before snagging two Oscar nods (both for perfs that were better than either of Law's nominated perfs). He hasn't been on the map lately but overall has enjoyed much more success, longevity and popularity than Law (who may in fact be a better actor but with his mostly awful slate that's yet to be determined). I can understand being soft on Firth, but preferring Law over Firth I cannot fathom. Law, who had a brief moment in the late 90s and early 2000s that virtually ended with Cold Mountain. Someone explain it to me. Agree with everyone that Fiennes is clearly the standout here. The most consistent, the most reliable, and the highest highs, and he's still going pretty strong. He's undeniable.
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Post by countjohn on Jan 5, 2020 4:59:02 GMT
Fiennes Firth Law I can understand being soft on Firth, but preferring Law over Firth I cannot fathom. Law, who had a brief moment in the late 90s and early 2000s that virtually ended with Cold Mountain. Someone explain it to me. I don't get it either. Law was once viewed as having big potential but I don't see how he's lived up to it at all. I haven't seen him in anything that touches Firth's Mr. Darcy or even King's Speech.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 5, 2020 5:42:20 GMT
but seriously, where the hell has Law been. I feel like apart from maaaaaybe the Young Pope/ New Pope on the small screen, he hasn't done anything relevant since Cold Mountain. It's insane to me that he didn't levy his two Oscar nods into more prestige-y projects in the 2000s and basically dropped off the map until recently. Has any other career of a high-caliber A-list British actor been such a missed opportunity? I'll say this for Firth, he isn't the most versatile but he's goddamn reliable. He was great in 1984's underseen Another Country, and had a lot of success in the 90s and early 2000s in rom-coms like Bridget Jones and in costume dramas and romance. I remember him being all the rage back in the day, and for good reason. His Mr. Darcy will never be eclipsed. And all that before snagging two Oscar nods (both for perfs that were better than either of Law's nominated perfs). He hasn't been on the map lately but overall has enjoyed much more success, longevity and popularity than Law (who may in fact be a better actor but with his mostly awful slate that's yet to be determined). I can understand being soft on Firth, but preferring Law over Firth I cannot fathom. Law, who had a brief moment in the late 90s and early 2000s that virtually ended with Cold Mountain. Someone explain it to me. Agree with everyone that Fiennes is clearly the standout here. The most consistent, the most reliable, and the highest highs, and he's still going pretty strong. He's undeniable. I'll give it a go Law is just an extremely reliable character actor, and always has been. Even in fluff like Captain Marvel. Yes, he's never reached the heights expected or predicted from him as a leading man in films, but that's not usual for a lot of British actors. A lot of his early work is great and very rangy (from Wilde to Gattaca to The Talented Mr Ripley to AI to Road To Perdition). I actually think his work in Cold Mountain is actually pretty overrated, and could have been done by several actors. He's been more fun to watch in movies people tend to dismiss like the Guy Ritchie/Robert Downey jr Sherlock Holmes films as Watson. A lot of his films (especially leading vehicles) since the mid 2000's haven't really caught on, but he's always pretty solid. And while some don't pay it as much attention, like Fiennes, Law is a far more accomplished stage actor than Firth, scoring 3 Laurence Olivier nominations and 2 Tony nominations over his career, including a Tony nod for Hamlet in 2010. Yes, his film career might have failed to live up to expectations, but he's one of the more accomplished British stage actors of his generation, and that counts for something. To be honest, it counts for a lot. People tend to forget what a great stage career Law had, and still has. To me Law is basically Terrence Stamp (had some memorable moments as a film actor, but much more was expected from him, like Law) with a far superior stage career. There are much worse things for an actor to be than that. Firth clearly does not have the range of Law or Fiennes (Firth tends to stick very closely to stiff, upper lipped posh Brits. which the other two can do just as easily, and much more besides), achieved very little of note in theatre and arguably for most the majority of his film career, he was percieved as kinda of a charming lightweight coasting off his appeal to women (the whole Mr Darcy, Bridget Jones thing. And I know some rate his Darcy performance, but playing a stiff upper lipped posh Englishman is not a challenge for Firth. It was more great casting than anything). He was sort of a budget Hugh Grant. Yes, in the last decade he's evolved into a more respected serious film actor with A Single Man and The King's Speech and his recent film career has been better than Law's, but in overall career terms (stage and screen) and actual range and acting craft, I think the argument for Law over Firth is quite compelling and easy to make.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 5, 2020 14:42:48 GMT
Fiennes Firth Law
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Post by MsMovieStar on Jan 5, 2020 14:55:43 GMT
Oh honey... my financial advisor tells me it's not worth getting into bed for... but if I had to (for like World Peace or something) it would probably be in that order...
$45m - Jude $30m - Ralph $25m - Colin
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 15:25:25 GMT
Oh honey... my financial advisor tells me it's not worth getting into bed for... but if I had to (for like World Peace or something) it would probably be in that order... $45m - Jude $30m - Ralph $25m - Colin All jokes aside, it really is shocking to me that Law is worth more than Fiennes and Firth - those two have been in much more successful films and more successful careers, frankly. Law's messy personal life really derailed his image as a major, A-List talent.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 5, 2020 17:25:17 GMT
I'll give it a go Firth clearly does not have the range of Law or Fiennes (Firth tends to stick very closely to stiff, upper lipped posh Brits. which the other two can do just as easily, and much more besides), achieved very little of note in theatre and arguably for most the majority of his film career, he was percieved as kinda of a charming lightweight coasting off his appeal to women (the whole Mr Darcy, Bridget Jones thing. And I know some rate his Darcy performance, but playing a stiff upper lipped posh Englishman is not a challenge for Firth. It was more great casting than anything). He was sort of a budget Hugh Grant. Yes, in the last decade he's evolved into a more respected serious film actor with A Single Man and The King's Speech and his recent film career has been better than Law's, but in overall career terms (stage and screen) and actual range and acting craft, I think the argument for Law over Firth is quite compelling and easy to make. well, I sure did ask for it Firth doesn't have the range of projects of these other two but he excels within his Discount Hugh Grant boundaries (a discount Hugh Grant is still hella charming) and his Oscar-nominated turns are better than both of Law's and he always stands out to me even in those lower-effort roles like Bridget Jones whereas Law disappears into the scenery in Road to Perdition, Closer, Anna Karenina, and even Hugo. Giving a second glance at Law's filmography I do see more high-profile projects than I realized he had been in, which itself is hugely telling. As for Firth, his turn in King's Speech particularly doesn't get the credit it deserves because anything marred with Tom Hooper's fingerprints is easy to mock in hindsight, but George VI was an incredibly challenging role that required both extreme technical precision and emotional vulnerability and unlike anything else he had done (and far more ambitious than anything Law has done). It was a dream role trapped in a mediocre film, and so was A Single Man for that matter. If it was just those two performances stacked up against the entirety of Law's cinematic career (it's true I'm not aware of his stage work), I'd go with Firth every day. I just still want to see more from Law. I feel like there's still untapped potential there.
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Post by speeders on Jan 8, 2020 0:21:04 GMT
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Post by wattsnew on Jan 8, 2020 1:56:28 GMT
Law Firth Fiennes (overrated actor)
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Post by MsMovieStar on Jan 8, 2020 5:03:20 GMT
Oh honey... my financial advisor tells me it's not worth getting into bed for... but if I had to (for like World Peace or something) it would probably be in that order... $45m - Jude $30m - Ralph $25m - Colin All jokes aside, it really is shocking to me that Law is worth more than Fiennes and Firth - those two have been in much more successful films and more successful careers, frankly. Law's messy personal life really derailed his image as a major, A-List talent. Oh honey, you say messy personal life... like it's a bad thing...
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