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Post by JangoB on Nov 29, 2019 18:49:26 GMT
Discussion about the look of "The Irishman" got me wondering - who's your favorite Scorsese cinematographer?
I've only included those in the poll who worked with him twice or more.
As a reminder:
Kent L. Wakeford - Mean Streets, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore
Michael Chapman - Taxi Driver, Raging Bull
Michael Ballhaus - After Hours, The Color of Money, The Last Temptation of Christ, Goodfellas, The Age of Innocence, Gangs of New York, The Departed
Robert Richardson - Casino, Bringing Out the Dead, The Aviator, Shutter Island, Hugo
Rodrigo Prieto - The Wolf of Wall Street, Silence, The Irishman
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Post by stephen on Nov 29, 2019 18:50:51 GMT
Ballhaus by miles. Then Chapman, then a gap, then Prieto (although The Irishman really brings him down, aesthetically), then Richardson, then Wakeford.
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Post by JangoB on Nov 29, 2019 19:00:09 GMT
My pick is Robert Richardson. I'm a huge fan of his, particularly of his work in the 90s and the first half of the 2000s, and I think his talents suited Scorsese best. Or rather, their talents suited each other best. I think he made Marty's dreams come true in the most impressive way - the baroque nature of Casino, the existential ghostly nights of Bringing Out the Dead, the emulation of various periods of film color processes in The Aviator, the blue/golden fairy tale of Hugo. Shutter Island is less flashy but still very memorable as DiCaprio's character dives deeper into the labyrinth of madness.
The Wakeford two were pretty early on and aside from a couple of great touches (particularly the stylized scenes from Alice) they don't seem too incredible to me.
The Chapman two were quite strong, especially Raging Bull.
Ballhaus's best hour with Marty is definitely The Age of Innocence and overall he did good stuff although not always the most memorable.
Prieto is a fine collaborator with Silence easily being his career highlight but overall I can't help but wish Scorsese picked somebody a little more interesting. Although the nature of the projects definitely factors on their look, as always with Scorsese.
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Post by Good God on Nov 29, 2019 19:29:24 GMT
The Last Temptation of Christ has my favorite shot of all time, and that alone swings it in Ballhaus's favor.
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Post by futuretrunks on Nov 29, 2019 21:35:01 GMT
This is interesting. In terms of the look of the movies, Richardson. Ballhaus shot Scorsese's two best films IMO (Goodfellas and The Departed), but I never found his lighting and shot composition extraordinary outside of a couple of scenes in Gangs of New York (I would also take Prieto's work in Silence over the cinematography in the Scorsese/Ballhaus collaborations, even though the cinematography in Wolf and The Irishman I found uninteresting). Ballhaus just somehow got lucky to helm two whiz-bang great scripts.
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Post by stephen on Nov 29, 2019 21:52:15 GMT
The Last Temptation of Christ has my favorite shot of all time, and that alone swings it in Ballhaus's favor. Which? By the way, that would be an interesting thread series: best shots from each of a director's filmography.
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Post by Good God on Nov 29, 2019 21:54:32 GMT
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Post by JangoB on Nov 29, 2019 21:58:46 GMT
That's an amazing one, yeah. Made me want to rewatch the film right this instant tbh.
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Post by Good God on Nov 29, 2019 22:05:33 GMT
That's an amazing one, yeah. Made me rewatch the film right this instant tbh. I'm an atheist and often get to ridiculing theistic beliefs, but it's incredible how moving I found The Last Temptation of Christ (almost entirely because of this one shot, which spoke to me instantly when I first watched it) and how Silence made me empathize with people of faith. Only Scorsese could have had that effect on me.
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Post by stephen on Nov 29, 2019 22:08:46 GMT
That's an amazing one, yeah. Made me rewatch the film right this instant tbh. I'm an atheist and often get to ridiculing theistic beliefs, but it's incredible how moving I found The Last Temptation of Christ (almost entirely because of this one shot, which spoke to me instantly when I first watched it) and how Silence made me empathize with people of faith. Only Scorsese could have had that effect on me. Where do you fall on Kundun (which actually has Scorsese's best cinematography)?
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Post by Good God on Nov 29, 2019 22:15:26 GMT
Where do you fall on Kundun (which actually has Scorsese's best cinematography)? Been too long since I last watched it and I can't say I remember it very well. I remember liking it, but I would rank it in the lower half of Scorsese's oeuvre. But then again, I might not rank Christ or Silence much higher either. Even if Scorsese manages to make his religious/spiritual movies work for me and I really like them, maybe I still don't take to them as much as the rest of his work.
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Post by JangoB on Nov 30, 2019 0:09:10 GMT
I'm an atheist and often get to ridiculing theistic beliefs, but it's incredible how moving I found The Last Temptation of Christ (almost entirely because of this one shot, which spoke to me instantly when I first watched it) and how Silence made me empathize with people of faith. Only Scorsese could have had that effect on me. Where do you fall on Kundun (which actually has Scorsese's best cinematography)? I wish he and Deakins worked together again after that one. Their only collaboration produced incredible results.
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Post by Pavan on Nov 30, 2019 6:55:42 GMT
Ballhaus, although i prefer his work in Bram Stoker's Dracula to anything he shot with Scorsese. Richardson's unorthodox approach best suits to Tarantino but his work with Scorsese produced extraordinary results too.
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Post by TerryMontana on Nov 30, 2019 13:25:18 GMT
I'd rank the cinematography like this:
Gangs of New York The Age of Innocence After Hours Silence Last Temptation Shutter Island Aviator Goodfellas Casino
So it's Ballhaus and then Richardson for me.
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