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Post by pupdurcs on Nov 27, 2019 4:28:19 GMT
1 Antonio Banderas - Pain And Glory
2 Jennifer Lopez- Hustlers
3 Adam Driver- Marriage Story
4 Taylor Russell-Waves
5 Matthias Schonaerts- The Mustang
6 Renee Zellweger- Judy
7 Joe Pesci- The Irishman
8 Margot Robbie- Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
9 Eddie Murphy- Dolemite Is My Name
10 Kristen Stewart- Seberg
time.com/5737198/best-movie-performances-2019/
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 27, 2019 4:36:45 GMT
1 Antonio Banderas - Pain And Glory
2 Jennifer Lopez- Hustlers
3 Adam Driver- Marriage Story
4 Taylor Russell-Waves
5 Matthias Schonaerts- The Mustang
6 Renee Zellweger- Judy
7 Joe Pesci- The Irishman
8 Margot Robbie- Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
9 Eddie Murphy- Dolemite Is My Name
10 Kristen Stewart- Seberg
time.com/5737198/best-movie-performances-2019/
Well that's an awful list but Robbie I assume will generate much derision.......it must have been hard for them to chose between her and Anna Paquin ........ |
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Post by pupdurcs on Nov 27, 2019 4:57:32 GMT
My thoughts: Looking increasingly likely that Joe Pesci will get the lion's share of the acting attention for The Irishman from critics at least. Expect Pacino to turn up here or there and at industry awards, but the internal competition is real, and Pacino is not locked for a nod with Pesci sucking up so much oxygen in the same category. I don't think DeNiro in lead will generate a huge amount of passion. It's a very competitive category and he's vulnerable, but he could get swept along by the film itself. Very good look for Antonio Banderas. It's only one list, but it is Time, so other critics will look at it. I can see Banderas and Driver winning some critics awards. Phoenix isn't going to pull a There Will Be Blood with critics awards, despite the feeling that he might easily sweep at industry awards..
Murphy has some passion behind him. I believe he takes the comedy Globe and scores an Oscar nod. Don't think he'll be competitive to win, but stranger things have happened.
Robbie...she's going to be getting love for both Bombshell and Once Upon A Time In Hollywood. First world problems.
Zellweger might win a second Oscar. Who'd of thunk it! |
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Post by stephen on Nov 27, 2019 5:03:22 GMT
I mean, this is just one person's viewpoint, and Stephanie Zacharek is fairly well-known for her rather eclectic tastes.
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Post by pupdurcs on Nov 27, 2019 5:08:15 GMT
I mean, this is just one person's viewpoint, and Stephanie Zacharek is fairly well-known for her rather eclectic tastes. This looks like a fairly typical critics list to be honest though, not Zaracheck going rogue like she did for her "best of decade" list (now that was eclectic). 70% legit Oscar hopefuls, and 30% minor critics obsessions who probably haven't got a hope in hell (ie Stewart, Schonearts, Russell). You are right, it's just one list. But I can see it being not too dissimilar to a lot of her peers. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 27, 2019 5:19:19 GMT
I mean, this is just one person's viewpoint, and Stephanie Zacharek is fairly well-known for her rather eclectic tastes. I almost have a different reaction than I think most people do - when you are writing for TIME magazine you almost can't pick your eclectic tastes in a way - I'm not saying she "has" to pick Phoenix and Pitt but she does have to reflect the year because people don't read TIME for her.......and the list has limitations within it anyway (5 males/5 females alternating) and she picked 2 biographic movie star roles for females (8 and 10) that are pretty out there - one a flop even - and one of the bigger themes of the year is multiple performance films (Lighthouse, Marriage Story, Irishman, OUATIH) that are totally missing here. You have to know your audience/publication in a way and not be above it either - you can advocate for Seberg somewhere else in TIME too etc. |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Nov 27, 2019 6:21:00 GMT
I mean, this is just one person's viewpoint, and Stephanie Zacharek is fairly well-known for her rather eclectic tastes. I almost have a different reaction than I think most people do - when you are writing for TIME magazine you almost can't pick your eclectic tastes in a way - I'm not saying she "has" to pick Phoenix and Pitt but she does have to reflect the year because people don't read TIME for her.......and the list has limitations within it anyway (5 males/5 females alternating) and she picked 2 biographic movie star roles for females (8 and 10) that are pretty out there - one a flop even - and one of the bigger themes of the year is multiple performance films (Lighthouse, Marriage Story, Irishman, OUATIH) that are totally missing here. You have to know your audience/publication in a way and not be above it either - you can advocate for Seberg somewhere else in TIME too etc. Doesn't that kind of audience pandering diminish the entire point of film criticism though? Besides, there's a healthy undercurrent of Joker criticism that *hated* Phoenix's performance, and Stephanie Zacharek was apart of it. She's paid to have opinions. Those who don't care or disagree with those opinions can just ignore, but I'd rather she not undercut those opinions to pander to an audience. and imo this list seems pretty standard to me. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see Stewart pop up elsewhere... Indiewire, maybe Village Voice. Critics love her. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 27, 2019 6:51:26 GMT
I almost have a different reaction than I think most people do - when you are writing for TIME magazine you almost can't pick your eclectic tastes in a way - I'm not saying she "has" to pick Phoenix and Pitt but she does have to reflect the year because people don't read TIME for her.......and the list has limitations within it anyway (5 males/5 females alternating) and she picked 2 biographic movie star roles for females (8 and 10) that are pretty out there - one a flop even - and one of the bigger themes of the year is multiple performance films (Lighthouse, Marriage Story, Irishman, OUATIH) that are totally missing here. You have to know your audience/publication in a way and not be above it either - you can advocate for Seberg somewhere else in TIME too etc. Besides, there's a healthy undercurrent of Joker criticism that *hated* Phoenix's performance, and Stephanie Zacharek was apart of it. She's paid to have opinions. Those who don't care or disagree with those opinions can just ignore, but I'd rather she not undercut those opinions to pander to an audience.
and imo this list seems pretty standard to me. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see Stewart pop up elsewhere... Indiewire, maybe Village Voice. Critics love her. See I don't think of it as pandering just being reflective of the year for your general cultural magazine/audience not Zacharek writing for IndieWire or like she's chief critic for Premiere in 1995 - maybe she should write essays at end of the year and the TIME official list could be something that meets their audience too just a little bit........but this is partly kind of why magazines of this kind are dead anyway. She's not Pauline Kael at the New Yorker, she's writing on pages 53-56 inbetween best recipes and gifts under $20........it seems like a standard list to us but I don't think we are TIME magazines audience either. The AARP list was actually more reflective of their readers and the year .........one may skew older........one is pretty insular. |
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Post by themoviesinner on Nov 27, 2019 7:51:57 GMT
I've only seen three of those performances. Antonio Banderas was fantastic, definitely his best performance in years and among the best of the year for sure. Jennifer Lopez was very good, but I think Constance Wu outshines her and I'm baffled by the praise Margot Robbie has recieved. She's fine but didn't do anything special and definitely doesn't deserve being included in a best performances of the year discussion.
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Post by speeders on Dec 17, 2019 14:45:09 GMT
Awful list.
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Post by TerryMontana on Dec 17, 2019 14:48:35 GMT
Haven't yet seen a lot of these but... Robbie doesn't belong in that list.
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Post by Allenism on Dec 17, 2019 15:43:38 GMT
I still haven't seen OUATIH but doesn't Robbie essentially just dance and look mildly retarded the whole time?
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Post by TerryMontana on Dec 17, 2019 16:00:44 GMT
I still haven't seen OUATIH but doesn't Robbie essentially just dance and look mildly retarded the whole time? Just dances and looks sexy, really. |
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Post by wattsnew on Dec 19, 2019 11:04:44 GMT
I still haven't seen OUATIH but doesn't Robbie essentially just dance and look mildly retarded the whole time? That word isn’t necessary. But to your answer your offensively written question, Robbie doesn’t have much to do in the film. Bombshell gives her a meatier, much better role. |
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