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Post by TerryMontana on Oct 8, 2019 19:48:46 GMT
Rachel Mc Adamns in Spotlight.
Yes, good one.
And while we're at it, Meryl Streep had a pretty good job in The Post, too.
Yes. Similar roles in a way.
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Post by hugobolso on Oct 9, 2019 14:03:03 GMT
The whole thing, is that from the begining of the cinema, certain proffesion are associated for women. Nun, prostitute, nurse, ruler (Queen, Princess, Mistress, First Lady), teacher, model, fashion designer, chorist, dancer, maid, hairdresser, housekeeper. There is nothing interesting about their character. Even when today is a little cliche (after Shampoo, Kramer Vs. Krammer etc) is far more interesting to see a movie about a male nurse (not the stupid Ben Stiller Parody in Meet the Fockers), that could be a great character examination.- But movie about femele nurses, has no point at all since at least the late 50s. Unless is based on true facts or in best seller, a stage play, or a auteur vision none cares about nurses, teachers as hard workers etc. And this is probably since the film invention. Audiences love their movies for the story plot, not for that kind of work. People learne since ages the story of Cinderella (The Maid), Beauty (teacher/nurse), The Sleeping Beauty (Princess) and the adulteress from the Bible (Wrongly mistaken with Mary Magdalene for more than a millenium).- Other are irrelevant if there is a man or a woman: shop clerk, waiter/waitress. And other use for love interest Journalist, Spy, soldier, sometimes even doctor. Today I guess (well more hope: Spotlight), is stupid to make a now at days movie, when all the journalist, doctors and even soldiers except one, are all men.- So I don't think, unlike the classic films, is relevant to examinate a character just for being a journalist, doctor, lawyer, judge just for being a woman.- Okay, you've lost me again. I don't think women's careers and jobs, whatever we call them, are irrelevant to a film's story if the story is good, whatever film era we're talking about. This thread is about working women, which in a good film is a meaningful component, just as it is in films in which men are working. I don't know how to explain it better than that. And I'm sorry for not fully understanding what you're getting at. Film about a working man or woman. It's a film, that in a certain time of the lengh describe the work/proffesion or whatever he/she is ejercing. There are sex commedies/softcore/hardcore films about plumbers/nurses/butchers/milkman/air hostesss et, that's not a portray of a plumber/nurse/milkman etc.- Remains of the Day describes the butler proffession. I cannot remember if in My Man Godfrey, in Arthur. the buttlers (William Powell, David Niven, John Gielgud, Helen Mirren) are just in name, or there trully describe the proffesion.- Powell, Niven, Gielgud, Mirren are among the best actors in cinema history, but they trully portray a butler? What I try to said, is that usually in classic films (not now at days) women typical jobs aren't describe. Because audience don't care, they knew, and directors and producers aren't interested in that.- OF course there are lot of exceptions Mädchen in Uniform (1931 and 1958) of course the main plot is lesbianism, the sexual awaken of a 14 school girl, but also describe the life in a Miss Boarding School, describe the teacher job. So there is a portray of a teacher.- Other notable exception Stage Door (1937) with Katherine Hepburn and Ginger Rogers as aspiring actresses.- There could be commedies too. For Example Mr Deeds goes to Town, both 1936 version and the 2002 (Ok, this not a classic at all), in a satyrical but soft way, describes perfectly the world of the front page/gossip journalism at the time.- Despite her charm, beauty and romantic Aura, Jean Arthur trully portrays a journalist.-
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Post by cherry68 on Oct 9, 2019 15:50:30 GMT
From the filmography of Paola Cortellesi :
Nessuno mi può giudicare (a woman who becomes a prostitute to pay the debts that her deceased husband left behind)
Scusate se esisto! (an architect who, after a brilliant career abroad, has to fake a male identity to get a job in Italy)
Gli ultimi saranno ultimi (a woman losing her job after getting pregnant)
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Post by cherry68 on Oct 9, 2019 18:26:56 GMT
From the filmography of Paola Cortellesi : Nessuno mi può giudicare (a woman who becomes a prostitute to pay the debts that her deceased husband left behind) Scusate se esisto! (an architect who, after a brilliant career abroad, has to fake a male identity to get a job in Italy) Gli ultimi saranno ultimi (a woman losing her job after getting pregnant) I haven't seen any of these, regrettably, but they have important and provocative premises. Thanks so much for alerting me to them - newer films, I assume, which is why I'm unaware of them. 2011/14/15 respectively. Not sure they had an American release though. I hope you'll be able to find them in English (unless you can speak Italian) ☺
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