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Post by therealcomicman117 on Oct 4, 2019 15:28:12 GMT
Great for The Joker. That's a record as far as October previews go. Has a decent change of doing 100m.
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Post by jakesully on Oct 4, 2019 19:36:12 GMT
very happy for Mr Phoenix!
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Post by quetee on Oct 4, 2019 20:34:46 GMT
Most of Joaquin's films probably make that amount in its entire run.
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Post by Miles Morales on Oct 5, 2019 6:13:41 GMT
Yeah, this is definitely doing $90 million or more this weekend. Venom's record will go down for sure. Surprisingly great overseas performance as well.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Oct 5, 2019 15:41:38 GMT
Solid debut for The Joker. That's an October weekend record as far as numbers go. deadline.com/2019/10/joker-box-office-opening-weekend-1202752002/THUMB RANK FILM DIS. SCREENS (CHG) FRIDAY(VS. PREV FRI) 3-DAY TOTAL WK 1 Joker WB/VR/Bron 4,374 $39.8M $94M $94M 1 2 Abominable DWA/Pearl/Uni 4,248 (+6) $2.8M (-50%) $12M (-42%) $37.8M 2 3 Downton Abbey Focus 3,548 (+158) $2.5M (-43%) $8.4M (-42%) $74M 3 4 Hustlers STX 3,030 (-478) $2M (-45%) $6.2M (-46%) $91.2M 4 5 It Chapter 2 NL/WB 3,163 (-448) $1.4M (-50%) $4.9M (-52%) $201.7M 5 6 Ad Astra Fox/Dis 2,910 (-550) $1.3M (-55%) $4.4M (-56%) $43.6M 3 7 Judy RSA 1,458 (+997) $1.3M (+50%) $4.1M (+41%) $8.6M 2 8 Rambo: Last Blood Mill/LG 2,900 (-718) $1.1M (-55%) $3.9M (-55%) $40.1M 3 9 War YRF 360 $500K $1.6M $2.1M 1 10 Sye Raa… IND 310 $310K $1M $2.3M 1 |
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Post by quetee on Oct 5, 2019 22:39:25 GMT
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Oct 6, 2019 16:14:50 GMT
Superb for Joker. Could see it doing over 200m, which would be strong considering its budget is only estimated as being 65m. www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/1 N Joker (2019) WB $93,500,000 - 4,374 - $21,376 $93,500,000 - 1 2 1 Abominable Uni. $12,000,000 -41.8% 4,248 +6 $2,825 $37,833,115 $75 2 3 2 Downton Abbey Focus $8,000,000 -44.2% 3,548 +158 $2,255 $73,626,935 - 3 4 3 Hustlers STX $6,300,000 -44.7% 3,030 -478 $2,079 $91,321,880 $20 4 5 4 It: Chapter Two WB (NL) $5,355,000 -47.7% 3,163 -448 $1,693 $202,205,157 - 5 6 5 Ad Astra Fox $4,557,000 -54.5% 2,910 -550 $1,566 $43,662,768 - 3 7 7 Judy RAtt. $4,445,635 +52.4% 1,458 +997 $3,049 $8,904,078 - 2 8 6 Rambo: Last Blood LGF $3,550,000 -58.7% 2,900 -718 $1,224 $39,823,895 $50 3 9 N War (2019) Yash $1,581,000 - 305 - $5,184 $2,088,290 - 1 10 8 Good Boys Uni. $900,000 -56.5% 1,006 -497 $895 $82,042,620 $20 8 |
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Post by quetee on Oct 6, 2019 18:29:05 GMT
Very good for The Joker. So looks like Hustlers will cross 100 mil mark. Ad Astra will have to settle with approx. 50 mil. isn't that where First Man landed? Not sure if Downton will be able to cross 100 mil and it appears It 2 will make approx. 100 mil less domestic compared to last time.
EDIT: Yikes, just looked it up. First Man ended with approx. 45 mil. It appears Ad Astra will make more dom and os.
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Post by TerryMontana on Oct 6, 2019 18:34:25 GMT
Quite good for Rambo, isn't it? I don't quite follow the BO numbers but I don't think the expectations for it were ever really high.
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Post by quetee on Oct 6, 2019 18:45:55 GMT
Quite good for Rambo, isn't it? I don't quite follow the BO numbers but I don't think the expectations for it were ever really high. The reported budget is 50 mil so not really. |
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Post by quetee on Oct 6, 2019 18:52:27 GMT
Ouch!!! Lucy in the Sky is a huge bomb. $55,000 with $1,400 ave.
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Post by TerryMontana on Oct 6, 2019 19:51:24 GMT
Quite good for Rambo, isn't it? I don't quite follow the BO numbers but I don't think the expectations for it were ever really high. The reported budget is 50 mil so not really. Uhh... ok then. |
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Post by vinnyt on Oct 7, 2019 16:20:17 GMT
Ouch!!! Lucy in the Sky is a huge bomb. $55,000 with $1,400 ave. One of the biggest stories out of the 2019 film year: Natalie Portman doesn't shit her space diaper so no one likes the film. |
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Post by Mattsby on Oct 7, 2019 18:24:36 GMT
Insane opening weekend, I assume the pre-sold tix carried that? There's gotta be a big drop off... Idk anyone personally who liked it yet or even would like it. I've rarely seen a movie play so coldly over a sold-out audience, literally pin-drop quiet the whole time. Then again, 90% RT audience score.... wtf?
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Post by Lubezki on Oct 7, 2019 19:21:52 GMT
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Post by Javi on Oct 7, 2019 23:35:31 GMT
I live in a tiny South American country and the movie is a huge box-office hit too... wild applause at the end... general audiences are loving it.
A country with no gun problem whatsoever, no public health issues, nobody knows what an 'incel' is (I didn't either until I read articles about the film), nobody cares or knows about Todd Phillips or whatever stupid shit he said. But it resonates anyway.
True, 99.9% of audiences flocking to this will never watch Taxi Driver in their lives but I think what highbrow film critics fail to get is that people's emotional response to this movie may not be too dissimilar from their "cultured" response to a Taxi Driver. And they barely touch on why this is, which is part of their job.
For some reason the movie is generating the kind of discussion that movies really spawn these days (internationally not just in the US). It's not just a Warner Bros marketing plain either; some people who are now talking about it were expecting a typical superhero flick and had no idea about the controversy. And as manipulative and confused as the movie is, it achieves two things 1) emotional identification with the character and 2) a sense of release at the end. People get catharsis from it.
I was just watching public TV this afternoon and they had an anthropologist talking about the movie and audience identification with a 'villain myth'... The most bizarre thing I watched in weeks but still more illuminating than a lot of professional reviews out there. So yes the discussion around it is far more interesting than the movie itself but I don't see that as a bad thing tbh.
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Post by Lubezki on Oct 8, 2019 14:44:26 GMT
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Post by quetee on Oct 8, 2019 17:02:49 GMT
damn, this movie is not playing around with the box office. Will Smith needs to take backseat cause less than 50% second weekend drop is probably happening. |
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Post by stephen on Oct 8, 2019 18:22:40 GMT
damn, this movie is not playing around with the box office. Will Smith needs to take backseat cause less than 50% second weekend drop is probably happening. Shoulda swallowed your ego and let Christoph shoot Leo, Will. Just sayin'. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 8, 2019 18:38:43 GMT
damn, this movie is not playing around with the box office. Will Smith needs to take backseat cause less than 50% second weekend drop is probably happening. Shoulda swallowed your ego and let Christoph shoot Leo, Will. Just sayin'. just had the biggest grossing film of his career this year in Aladdin. Netflix is paying him ridiculous sums to make Bright 2, because the first one apparently did so well for them. Whether Gemeni Man flops or does well (and the poor reviews won't help it), his career is actually in pretty good shape. His name attached to a project gets big projects greenlit still. Not doing Django hasn't affected his starpower at all. It's just given film nerds an excuse to take a pop at him for not taking a lead role in a Tarantino film, that was clearly going to get overshadowed by 3 supporting roles in the script, which he probably sensed when he made his excuses. Box office wise, he's more inconsistent than he was in his prime, but in the right vehicle if well recieved, he's clearly still one of the biggest and bankable stars on the planet. He could stand to take more risks, but I don't think turning down Django has affected his career either way. |
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Post by stephen on Oct 8, 2019 18:55:22 GMT
Shoulda swallowed your ego and let Christoph shoot Leo, Will. Just sayin'. just had the biggest grossing film of his career this year in Aladdin. Netflix is paying him ridiculous sums to make Bright 2, because the first one apparently did so well for them. Whether Gemeni Man flops or does well (and the poor reviews won't help it), his career is actually in pretty good shape. His name attached to a project gets big projects greenlit still. Not doing Django hasn't affected his starpower at all. It's just given film nerds an excuse to take a pop at him for not taking a lead role in a Tarantino film, that was clearly going to get overshadowed by 3 supporting roles in the script, which he probably sensed when he made his excuses. Box office wise, he's more inconsistent than he was in his prime, but in the right vehicle if well recieved, he's clearly still one of the biggest and bankable stars on the planet. He could stand to take more risks, but I don't think turning down Django has affected his career either way. 's success had very little to do with Smith, to the point that most of the buzz surrounding Smith's involvement up to the film's release was negative (i.e. the reactions to his Genie being blue). The movie was always going to do well because of a pre-built audience that will eat up anything the Mouse cranks out, especially if it's a paint-by-the-numbers rehash of a pre-existing movie. Yes, it's always a good thing to have a billion-dollar film in your catalogue, but how much of that success can we really credit to Smith himself? Not doing Django hasn't affected Smith's star power, but it showed an unsettling viewpoint in Smith that he isn't willing to take risks. He's almost always played it safe, to the point that he refused to kiss a man on-screen in Six Degrees of Separation (a choice that he regrets as being "immature" on his part), because he thought it would hurt his budding image. For an actor of his wattage and caliber, he should by rights be doing things like Collateral or, yes, Django Unchained, playing with his movie-star image and then subverting expectations by mixing it up. But he doesn't. His last decade has been altogether pretty disappointing for an actor who has the sheer charisma and screen magnetism he exudes. Yes, Django in the script is the weakest character in the piece, but that should've been a test for Smith to see what he could do to augment the character just by virtue of his presence. Shit, the Man with No Name is easily the least interesting central character in The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly if we judge him based on actions/dialogue, but Eastwood does so much to elevate that by virtue of his Eastwood-ness that he manages to make up for those perceived shortcomings. Smith may have been able to do the same, if he were only willing to take a chance. I don't think his career is hurting by turning down Django. But I think his craft has been stagnating for a long, long time. |
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Post by Good God on Oct 8, 2019 19:05:31 GMT
Big Willie just had the biggest grossing film of his career this year in Aladdin. Netflix is paying him ridiculous sums to make Bright 2, because the first one apparently did so well for them. Whether Gemeni Man flops or does well (and the poor reviews won't help it), his career is actually in pretty good shape. His name attached to a project gets big projects greenlit still. Not doing Django hasn't affected his starpower at all. It's just given film nerds an excuse to take a pop at him for not taking a lead role in a Tarantino film, that was clearly going to get overshadowed by 3 supporting roles in the script, which he probably sensed when he made his excuses. Box office wise, he's more inconsistent than he was in his prime, but in the right vehicle if well recieved, he's clearly still one of the biggest and bankable stars on the planet. He could stand to take more risks, but I don't think turning down Django has affected his career either way. I've seen you make this dumb ass argument before, and it's still just as dumb as it was the first time you made it. 1. Django Unchained would have been, by far, the best reviewed movie of Will Smith's career. 2. Django Unchained would have been the first and only Best Picture nominated movie of Will Smith's career. 3. Django Unchained would have been the highest grossing R-rated movie of Will Smith's career. It's also pretty knuckleheaded to say Django Unchained wouldn't have done anything for Will Smith's career for many reasons: 1. He did After Earth instead. What did After Earth do for Will Smith's career? Oh, right, it became his biggest bomb in 10 years. 2. We don't know what it would have done for Will Smith's career. As we know, his career has declined since 2012. Maybe Django Unchained could have prevented that. 3. If nothing else, Django Unchained would have done Django Unchained for Will Smith's career. It's going to be better remembered than any of the dreck he's done in the 2010s. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 8, 2019 19:35:40 GMT
Big Willie just had the biggest grossing film of his career this year in Aladdin. Netflix is paying him ridiculous sums to make Bright 2, because the first one apparently did so well for them. Whether Gemeni Man flops or does well (and the poor reviews won't help it), his career is actually in pretty good shape. His name attached to a project gets big projects greenlit still. Not doing Django hasn't affected his starpower at all. It's just given film nerds an excuse to take a pop at him for not taking a lead role in a Tarantino film, that was clearly going to get overshadowed by 3 supporting roles in the script, which he probably sensed when he made his excuses. Box office wise, he's more inconsistent than he was in his prime, but in the right vehicle if well recieved, he's clearly still one of the biggest and bankable stars on the planet. He could stand to take more risks, but I don't think turning down Django has affected his career either way. 's success had very little to do with Smith, to the point that most of the buzz surrounding Smith's involvement up to the film's release was negative (i.e. the reactions to his Genie being blue). The movie was always going to do well because of a pre-built audience that will eat up anything the Mouse cranks out, especially if it's a paint-by-the-numbers rehash of a pre-existing movie. Yes, it's always a good thing to have a billion-dollar film in your catalogue, but how much of that success can we really credit to Smith himself? Not doing Django hasn't affected Smith's star power, but it showed an unsettling viewpoint in Smith that he isn't willing to take risks. He's almost always played it safe, to the point that he refused to kiss a man on-screen in Six Degrees of Separation (a choice that he regrets as being "immature" on his part), because he thought it would hurt his budding image. For an actor of his wattage and caliber, he should by rights be doing things like Collateral or, yes, Django Unchained, playing with his movie-star image and then subverting expectations by mixing it up. But he doesn't. His last decade has been altogether pretty disappointing for an actor who has the sheer charisma and screen magnetism he exudes. Yes, Django in the script is the weakest character in the piece, but that should've been a test for Smith to see what he could do to augment the character just by virtue of his presence. Shit, the Man with No Name is easily the least interesting central character in The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly if we judge him based on actions/dialogue, but Eastwood does so much to elevate that by virtue of his Eastwood-ness that he manages to make up for those perceived shortcomings. Smith may have been able to do the same, if he were only willing to take a chance. I don't think his career is hurting by turning down Django. But I think his craft has been stagnating for a long, long time. We can credit a lot of the success of Aladdin to Smith. Not all these Disney adaptations do well. Dumbo and The Nutcracker were very recently major flops for the Mouse. While his appearance may have generated some exaggerated negative "buzz", when the reviews came out the majority of them said the film worked because Smith's performance as the Genie was so strong, and compared favourably to Robin Williams. He certainly gave the film legs. On Deadline, a summer movie survey from Atom Tickets revealed 70% of the people they asked said they were most excited to see Will Smith as the Genie. I imagine if Smith wasn't the Genie, there was a big danger of it making a lot less than it did, or possibly even flopping like Dumbo. Smith got a lot of credit in the industry for Aladdin's success because things like those polls are quantifiable evidence that his presence was a huge factor. Of course the IP itself was a big factor as well, but Disney bought Smith for the insurance as he's a perfect fit for a family friendly IP. Replace Michael Keaton and Colin Farrell with Smith in Dumbo, and perhaps that movie has a very different box office fate. As for the rest, I've already said he could stand to take more risks, so I'm not exactly going to disagree with you. I do think he deserves a bit more credit for holding Suicide Squad together. Margot Robbie and Viola Davis did their bit as well, but Smith was one of the few saving graces of that film. I think even Smith realises he now needs a change of pace artistically, which is why he recently announced that he is playing notorious drug dealer Nicky Barnes in The Counsel. Barnes was played by Cuba Gooding Jr in American Gangster.
It'll be interesting to see if Smith can convince as a ruthless/amoral badass criminal without resisting the temptation to soften up the character, but we'll find out. But he's pretty much doing what you are asking for with this next project, and maybe it'll change his career and the kind of roles he takes. Tom Hanks, another very "safety first" actor, who gets much less criticism for it because everyone likes him being nice, should probably follow suit. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 8, 2019 19:36:28 GMT
Big Willie just had the biggest grossing film of his career this year in Aladdin. Netflix is paying him ridiculous sums to make Bright 2, because the first one apparently did so well for them. Whether Gemeni Man flops or does well (and the poor reviews won't help it), his career is actually in pretty good shape. His name attached to a project gets big projects greenlit still. Not doing Django hasn't affected his starpower at all. It's just given film nerds an excuse to take a pop at him for not taking a lead role in a Tarantino film, that was clearly going to get overshadowed by 3 supporting roles in the script, which he probably sensed when he made his excuses. Box office wise, he's more inconsistent than he was in his prime, but in the right vehicle if well recieved, he's clearly still one of the biggest and bankable stars on the planet. He could stand to take more risks, but I don't think turning down Django has affected his career either way. I've seen you make this dumb ass argument before, and it's still just as dumb as it was the first time you made it. 1. Django Unchained would have been, by far, the best reviewed movie of Will Smith's career. 2. Django Unchained would have been the first and only Best Picture nominated movie of Will Smith's career. 3. Django Unchained would have been the highest grossing R-rated movie of Will Smith's career. It's also pretty knuckleheaded to say Django Unchained wouldn't have done anything for Will Smith's career for many reasons: 1. He did After Earth instead. What did After Earth do for Will Smith's career? Oh, right, it became his biggest bomb in 10 years. 2. We don't know what it would have done for Will Smith's career. As we know, his career has declined since 2012. Maybe Django Unchained could have prevented that. 3. If nothing else, Django Unchained would have done Django Unchained for Will Smith's career. It's going to be better remembered than any of the dreck he's done in the 2010s. All that text for...  |
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Post by Good God on Oct 8, 2019 19:51:46 GMT
We can credit a lot of the success of Aladdin to Smith. Not all these Disney adaptations do well. Dumbo and The Nutcracker were very recently major flops for the Mouse. Dumb ass comparison. Good comparisons for Aladdin are Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King, which both made more money than Aladdin. LOL, more lies from the reigning king of lies. Here is what Deadline actually said: Source |
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