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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Oct 28, 2019 19:59:22 GMT
Jesus Christ man. What the hell was that? What the actual fuck? Probably the shallowest look at any of the issues this thing hilariously tries to tackle that I've ever seen, and I wish that was an exaggeration. On top of that, the whole movie is histrionic to the point of utter absurdity and doesn't even trust the audience to understand what they're seeing without spelling it out every two minutes. How the hell did Phoenix give one of the best leading performances this decade and also one of the absolute worst? I haven't been this baffled by a movie's praise since Whiplash. "I AM VERY ISOLATED AND HATE EVERYTHING AND I WISH I HAD A GIRLFRIEND AND MY THERAPIST IS USELESS (AND FOR SOME REASON ALSO VERY AGGRESSIVE WHEN TALKING TO ME...AND ALSO ACTS NOTHING LIKE AN ACTUAL THERAPIST WOULD, BUT IF THIS PART WAS WRITTEN MORE REALISTICALLY IT WOULD KINDA KILL THE EDGY NARRATIVE THAT EVERYTHING SUCKS AND IS AGAINST ME AND SO I DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY SITUATION) AND I ALSO GET MY ASS BEAT BY RANDOM PEOPLE ON THE REGULAR. NO ONE UNDERSTANDS, I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS SOCIETY! IT'S JOKER TIME!" Won't give it a 1/10 because the scene where he starts dancing and says "Hey, what's your name?...Arthur...Hey Arthur, you're a good dancer!" was genuinely funny as fuck, no idea if it was intentional or not because the rest of the movie lacks self-awareness to a suffocating extent, but there's that. 😆😆 What a shitty take!!
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Post by cherry68 on Oct 28, 2019 20:17:07 GMT
two kids snuck into an R rated movie? that's fuckin wild. Another example of how this movie is causing the complete collapse of American society. 🤔 Do you have to be 18 in the US to watch it? In the Swiss state I'm living 16 is the minimum. My eldest son watched it, the youngest couldn't. (I think Terry Montana was talking about Greece though).
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Post by TerryMontana on Oct 28, 2019 20:35:05 GMT
Another example of how this movie is causing the complete collapse of American society. 🤔 Do you have to be 18 in the US to watch it? In the Swiss state I'm living 16 is the minimum. My eldest son watched it, the youngest couldn't. (I think Terry Montana was talking about Greece though). I was. I said it happened in Athens. Here you have to be 18 to watch it.
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Post by countjohn on Oct 28, 2019 21:25:05 GMT
Another example of how this movie is causing the complete collapse of American society. 🤔 Do you have to be 18 in the US to watch it? In the Swiss state I'm living 16 is the minimum. My eldest son watched it, the youngest couldn't. (I think Terry Montana was talking about Greece though). It is rated R which means people under 18 can't see it without their legal guardian. That is very laxly enforced, though. I saw R rated movies as a teenager all the time without ever being carded.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 23:26:55 GMT
🤔 Do you have to be 18 in the US to watch it? In the Swiss state I'm living 16 is the minimum. My eldest son watched it, the youngest couldn't. (I think Terry Montana was talking about Greece though). It is rated R which means people under 18 can't see it without their legal guardian. That is very laxly enforced, though. I saw R rated movies as a teenager all the time without ever being carded. I thought it was under 17?
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Oct 29, 2019 0:16:36 GMT
Just one last thing I want to say. Between American Hustle, I, Tonya, and this, can filmmakers stop trying to BE Scorsese? It’s become a really irritating trend.
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Post by mhynson27 on Oct 29, 2019 0:21:30 GMT
Just to add to the rating conversation, down here the closest thing we have to a U.S. 'R' is 'MA' which is 15+ and that's what Joker is rated.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Nov 12, 2019 15:26:10 GMT
Can we talk about Joaquin Phoenix's dancing? Mind you, I haven't seen the movie, but I have seen the actual dance scenes from the movie and I LOVED his dancing. Very impressed with the way his movements capture the spirit and energy of the songs.
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Post by Lubezki on Nov 12, 2019 16:18:56 GMT
Can we talk about Joaquin Phoenix's dancing? Mind you, I haven't seen the movie, but I have seen the actual dance scenes from the movie and I LOVED his dancing. Very impressed with the way his movements capture the spirit and energy of the songs. Indeed, the bathroom scene in particular. He and Phillips were trying to come up with something. Phillips started playing Hildur Guðnadóttir‘s gorgeous score over the speakers, which immediately consumed Joaquin’s soul. And the rest is history.
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Post by Feesy on Nov 18, 2019 3:05:16 GMT
It’s hard to explain for me. Phoenix was great, the movie looked and sounded great but I think the story took every predictable step it could take and it’s so incredibly on the nose from the very beginning. The opening of the movie tells me “society isn’t kind to Arthur” but it doesn’t really expand beyond that. At best, I feel like it's a movie that has some great parts to it but it doesn't quite piece together as a well-rounded movie. I'll agree with the assessment that Phoenix basically carried the movie on his shoulders, but considering how his shoulders looked in the movie, he might have been carrying a lot more than he bargained for. Again, to be fair, I thought the cinematography was great, I actually liked how Gotham City looked and the score, at times, was pretty strong.
6/10. I'm curious how this will do on a rewatch, though.
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Post by Sharbs on Dec 2, 2019 6:02:15 GMT
i'm with moonman. Joaquin's worst performance I can recall. feels like Phillips's fault trying to accentuate strange physicality than anything internal that Joaqs has proven time and time again to dominate. just a paper thin flick with some easy to latch onto shock factor. - 4.5/10
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Post by Pasquale on Dec 2, 2019 20:27:03 GMT
deserves everything, it's going to earn. fucking great. !
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Dec 4, 2019 8:43:04 GMT
Todd Phillips couldn't shine Schrader's shoes.
The film is occasionally watachable (mostly due to Phoenix) but ultimately not satisfying and the farther away I get from it, the more I start to hate it. Does Phillips even have a clue what he's trying to say? The film is so messy and all over the place and keeps flip-flopping on whether Fleck is justifiable or despicable because Phillips' directing is so in-your-face and blunt as a fuckin rock. There isn't an ounce of subtlety in this whole film, which makes for really awkward comparisons to Taxi Driver because Travis Bickle is an emotionally distant role whose motivations for his crimes are murky at best. Taxi Driver isn't social commentary, it's a character study of an unambiguously disturbed man who falls through the cracks. Joker feels like it wants to be social commentary, which... fuck you. No. Social commentary from the maker of the Hangover movies is the last thing anybody needs.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 7, 2019 14:32:06 GMT
Can we talk about Joaquin Phoenix's dancing? Mind you, I haven't seen the movie, but I have seen the actual dance scenes from the movie and I LOVED his dancing. Very impressed with the way his movements capture the spirit and energy of the songs. It's a beautiful example on how to incorporate your body into a role and just one example of how much he thought about this part. Sometimes he's dancing when he's not even: The scene in his apartment with his co-workers is genuinely scary because of how he moves and how he seemingly is doing multiple things at the same time - hesitating and moving but not moving in a way that seems contradictory but freakishly right - he's not of in control of his mind and yet how that affects how he moves seems completely ominous. It's very jarring in the best sense - particularly how he's seemingly small relative to one and looming in a foreboding way to another merely by where he stands (and how) relative to each - it's not just his height - but how he's imposing his body on them and the space in different ways and controlling the whole room. This scene isn't even well written.........it's extraordinarily acted though........
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Post by Zeb31 on Dec 15, 2019 1:44:16 GMT
So, I haven't seen this yet; I'll try and go sometime this week. It's just— I keep forgetting that this is an actual film that's playing multiple times a day 5 minutes away from me and that I can just go and, you know, watch. I don't know how much sense this makes to other people but there's been so much Discourse™️ surrounding this thing, I've read so much back and forth about it, and it's been so, so long since it first debuted that it feels weirdly distant from me in a way that I can't remember being the case with any other film. It doesn't feel like a regular movie that I can watch; it feels like a fact that took place somewhere and I'm still reading about. Repeatedly I'm reminded that it's still playing and go "ah yeah, that's a thing I'm planning to do at some point".
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Dec 18, 2019 20:43:48 GMT
Someone on twitter called this “Catcher in the Rye for people who don’t read” and it was perfect.
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Post by The-Havok on Dec 18, 2019 21:28:07 GMT
Someone on twitter called this “Catcher in the Rye for people who don’t read” and it was perfect. Except the lead characters are nothing like.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Dec 18, 2019 21:31:07 GMT
Someone on twitter called this “Catcher in the Rye for people who don’t read” and it was perfect. Except the lead characters are nothing like. I don’t think they are comparing the actual works but people’s reactions.
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Post by Zeb31 on Dec 23, 2019 2:08:37 GMT
Phillips really thought he was doing something, huh.
This was embarrassing.
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Post by The-Havok on Dec 23, 2019 4:48:39 GMT
Phillips really thought he was doing something, huh. This was embarrassing. Dang he's crying on Instagram as he sees this totally scathing review!
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Post by TerryMontana on Dec 23, 2019 13:15:45 GMT
Well, it's better from his Hangover films...
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Post by RiverleavesElmius on Jan 8, 2020 21:21:14 GMT
Leading Neurocriminologist has spent over 40 years studying the brains of Violent criminals and was floored by the psychological accuracy of Todd Philpp's Joker linkPretentious SJW "Film Twitter" Twats OWNED!!
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 8, 2020 21:30:22 GMT
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