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Post by sirchuck23 on Sept 13, 2019 21:48:39 GMT
According to the movie site We Got This Covered, Washington is on an internal wishlist for the role of Magneto in an X-Men reboot under the MCU banner. I doubt they land Washington considering he's going to be busy for the next couple of years with Little Things, MacBeth, and directing Journal for Jordan, but it is interesting. I wonder if this will lead to a race between DCEU and MCU of who can convince him to star in one of their comic-book films. He's never done one and has expressed interest in doing one if its right, so we'll see. wegotthiscovered.com/movies/denzel-washington-being-eyed-for-magneto-x-men/
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Sept 13, 2019 21:55:39 GMT
Yeah, he strikes me as someone who would survive the Holocaust...
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Post by stephen on Sept 13, 2019 21:59:21 GMT
I know that you're stoked about Denzel getting an MCU offer for Magneto, and I have no doubt he'd give that role some clout and gravitas... but I must say, I quite like the idea of Esposito in that role, and he deserves that exposure.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Sept 13, 2019 22:06:51 GMT
I know that you're stoked about Denzel getting an MCU offer for Magneto, and I have no doubt he'd give that role some clout and gravitas... but I must say, I quite like the idea of Esposito in that role, and he deserves that exposure. Actually man, I'm kind of hoping Denzel holds off on doing a comic book film in his career. Since its the "in" thing to do in this era of Hollywood and alot of actors are seeking to join a comic book franchise, I want him to remain on that list of A-List actors who haven't done one. It's similar to when he had never done a sequel in his career as well, I was hoping he could go through his career not doing a sequel either (like Leonardo DiCaprio for both) until he decided to do The Equalizer 2. I'm not too keen on him playing Magneto (not just because of the obvious sh/tstorm it would cause) because if he did decide to do a comic book film, I would want him to perform a character that hasn't been on the big screen yet like Martian Manhunter or some other characters comic book fans fancasted him to play in their wishlists. But the fact the DCEU and now MCU have had him on wishlists to be in their comic book films is interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 22:19:26 GMT
He’d be good, obviously, and I expect a change in backstory for the character (or, who knows, maybe they’ll cast a nonagenarian!) but the site this is coming from, We Got This Covered, has a history of, uh, not having this covered.
They previously “confirmed” Armie Hammer as Batman, for example, and as per Kevin Feige, the X-Men are still a ways away from being introduced to the MCU.
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Post by pendragon on Sept 13, 2019 22:20:06 GMT
No doubt to bring the Malcolm X subtext to the forefront.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 13, 2019 22:23:49 GMT
Kind of think he shouldn't take it but he doesn't give the impression he'd want it either........ he acts like he'd like to go out with less film roles but big ones when he does it (Macbeth) and he talked about doing classics on stage too and maybe he'd end up on stage. He turns 65 this year - and that age - 65-75 is where a lot things often go weird, wrong and haywire for a lot of actors. Bridges who is 69 is going to TV.......Hanks is going quirky bio roles.....Day-Lewis is gone......finding your niche becomes harder, the terrain becomes harder to read.
He doesn't have the luxury of missing out on work though like he had in the 10s (only 10 roles in 10 years and some of those are genre throwaways - 2 Equalizers, Magnificent 7 etc) because Hanks, his obvious competition (still), is working in those bio roles hard now which attract lots of award attention or publicity even if he doesn't get a nod etc. Denzel, Hanks, Bridges are in a different space from the previous leading men and their acting generations where the 65-75 years end up as make or break for you and he's very concerned about his legacy too.
Newman added a lot to his stature late - a couple Oscar nods, an Emmy.......that's what he's looking for imo, and Magneto doesn't fit as far as I can see.
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Post by pupdurcs on Sept 14, 2019 5:44:02 GMT
It is Marvel, who have made making this type of film into a science that pleases audiences and critics, so if it were to happen it'd probably work out just fine, despite the inevitable shitstorm (they'd have to update Magneto's origin anyway. A Nazi holocaust survivor would be pushing 100 years old today, and wouldn't be a credible backstory. Just like making Nick Fury a 90 year old World War 2 Veteran (his actual origin) was never going to work (they knew they were pushing it with both Captain America and Bucky). Making it South African apartheid or Rwandan Genocide instead, makes his backstory of hating humans for their inhumanity towards others who are different work just as fine) Also, it might by an opportunity to work with his son John David, whom I imagine is on Marvels casting wish list these days. I can imagine them race bending the character of Cyclops (A potentially fascinating character neutered in the Fox films so Wolverine could shine) for example and casting someone like John David to play him.
Would he do it though, if offered? Possibly if the terms are right. He's never been a genre snob.I think he'd have to get more flexible terms on his contract, because he's a busy man with lots of other things on his plate (Broadway, producing and directing, acting in his own projects etc).
Denzel is America's greatest living actor, so he would obviously be a huge get for Marvel. Especially since he's still A-list. They've cast some legends like Michael Douglas and Robert Redford. And there was some talk of Al Pacino maybe doing a role after he expressed interest because he liked Guardians Of The Galaxy so much. But putting it kindly, all of them are well past their prime in terms of stardom and current relevance to audiences, whereas Denzel in his 60's now is still up there. He can probably continue to survive on his own starpower like Clint Eastwood or something. But y'know, Star Wars was good enough for Sir Alec Guinness, so bygones.
Washington's legacy is pretty set in stone. He's revered by his peers in a way few can currently match other than the British (and allegedly retired) Daniel Day-Lewis. He's on America's Mount Rushmore of actors, and his biggest competition going forward is probably the romanticised memory of Marlon Brando in the eyes of some keepers of film lore. But I think by the time he's done (probably a lot earlier I suspect), he'll have probably vanquished even that. I don't think doing a Marvel film will affect his career much, except he won't be entirely dependent on his own starpower for box office success. Like Sirchuck23 says, I like the notion of him doing his own thing and not having to succumb to franchises (even though he created a mid-range one for himself in The Equalizer), but I don't think it'd be a bad thing for him either, as these films rarely fail.
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Post by pupdurcs on Sept 14, 2019 6:10:29 GMT
I know that you're stoked about Denzel getting an MCU offer for Magneto, and I have no doubt he'd give that role some clout and gravitas... but I must say, I quite like the idea of Esposito in that role, and he deserves that exposure. Esposito once said a few years ago he turned down a role on the Marvel Netflix shows (not confirmed which one, but I it could have been Mahershala Ali's role in Luke Cage), because there is a particular Marvel role he really wants to play if it turned up in the movies, but figured his chances to play it would drop to zero if he accepted the TV role. So he let Marvel know this and declined. Don't know what role it was Esposito wanted, but I very much doubt it was Magneto, as the character was still with Fox at the time, and he'd have no notion that that even when Marvel/Disney got the rights back, that they'd be willing to racebend such an iconic character. Hopefully the role Esposito wanted hasn't already been done, and he gets the chance to play it. But it seems to me he is in contact with Marvel and he's someone they want to utilise at some point. I actually think if they were willing to racebend Dr Doom, Esposito might be perfect. screencrush.com/marvel-tv-giancarlo-esposito-movies/
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Post by sirchuck23 on Sept 14, 2019 13:46:20 GMT
It is Marvel, who have made making this type of film into a science that pleases audiences and critics, so if it were to happen it'd probably work out just fine, despite the inevitable shitstorm (they'd have to update Magneto's origin anyway. A Nazi holocaust survivor would be pushing 100 years old today, and wouldn't be a credible backstory. Just like making Nick Fury a 90 year old World War 2 Veteran (his actual origin) was never going to work (they knew they were pushing it with both Captain America and Bucky). Making it South African apartheid or Rwandan Genocide instead, makes his backstory of hating humans for their inhumanity towards others who are different work just as fine) Also, it might by an opportunity to work with his son John David, whom I imagine is on Marvels casting wish list these days. I can imagine them race bending the character of Cyclops (A potentially fascinating character neutered in the Fox films so Wolverine could shine) for example and casting someone like John David to play him. Would he do it though, if offered? Possibly if the terms are right. He's never been a genre snob.I think he'd have to get more flexible terms on his contract, because he's a busy man with lots of other things on his plate (Broadway, producing and directing, acting in his own projects etc). Denzel is America's greatest living actor, so he would obviously be a huge get for Marvel. Especially since he's still A-list. They've cast some legends like Michael Douglas and Robert Redford. And there was some talk of Al Pacino maybe doing a role after he expressed interest because he liked Guardians Of The Galaxy so much. But putting it kindly, all of them are well past their prime in terms of stardom and current relevance to audiences, whereas Denzel in his 60's now is still up there. He can probably continue to survive on his own starpower like Clint Eastwood or something. But y'know, Star Wars was good enough for Sir Alec Guinness, so bygones. Washington's legacy is pretty set in stone. He's revered by his peers in a way few can currently match other than the British (and allegedly retired) Daniel Day-Lewis. He's on America's Mount Rushmore of actors, and his biggest competition going forward is probably the romanticised memory of Marlon Brando in the eyes of some keepers of film lore. But I think by the time he's done (probably a lot earlier I suspect), he'll have probably vanquished even that. I don't think doing a Marvel film will affect his career much, except he won't be entirely dependent on his own starpower for box office success. Like Sirchuck23 says, I like the notion of him doing his own thing and not having to succumb to franchises (even though he created a mid-range one for himself in The Equalizer), but I don't think it'd be a bad thing for him either, as these films rarely fail. Agreed..it will be interesting who ends up getting him if he does decide to do one..DC/Warner Bros or MCU/Disney. I don’t think he would have any interest in doing multiple films and just do a one-off unless they give him a lot of money. He has a lot of other options since he’s still a bankable A-List star..so it’s not like he needs them for a career boost..plus like I mentioned earlier his plate is full for the next few years.
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Post by stephen on Sept 14, 2019 13:51:40 GMT
All this talk has got me thinking about Joker, and wondering whether we might see "serious" actors follow in Joaquin's footsteps for one-and-done comic-book takes rather than adhering themselves to franchises. Obviously, most of the top actors these days have no problem dipping their toes into the franchise pool, but I wonder if someone like Washington wouldn't want to just stick to a solo film, make his mark, and then move on.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 14, 2019 14:14:12 GMT
All this talk has got me thinking about Joker, and wondering whether we might see "serious" actors follow in Joaquin's footsteps for one-and-done comic-book takes rather than adhering themselves to franchises. Obviously, most of the top actors these days have no problem dipping their toes into the franchise pool, but I wonder if someone like Washington wouldn't want to just stick to a solo film, make his mark, and then move on. It's part of a broader discussion that is happening about how the multitude of available projects across media influence actors or our perceptions of them and how people choose the specificity of their entertainment. I've mentioned before Gandolfini and Cranston to a lot of people are "all-time" great actors - their single roles qualify them - these people do not differentiate from film and TV .....and to another group of people if you aren't in the MCU you kind of don't exist too. It's far different from previous eras where TV star Alan Alda for M*A*S*H would have never been linked to movie star Robert De Niro........soon you will have digital de-aging for actors......multiple Oscar winners starring in new TV shows but still open to movies too.......people consuming the Art more on tablets, phones. In the 70s and pre-video era the big actors stayed basically on a 1 movie in every 2 years pace - a movie a year was career suicide, it gave huge power to the flop to end careers now we are in a new era...........the problem is all this affords more choices but maybe in a way less opportunities especially in the 65-75 age range death valley for most actors. At a certain age or point.......you can't do it all. You are almost at a tipping point where there is no such thing as a serious actor now too........exciting/odd/scary times......
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