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Post by Allenism on Sept 9, 2019 15:19:37 GMT
I don't quite understand all the Kidman-Watts battles on here - it must go back to IMDB days I guess that I was oblivious to - but I will say that Nicole Kidman, who I really do like and is one of her generations best actresses - "one of her generation" being the key words - not "greatest Actress from Australia", not "can she challenge Streep" sometimes wears awfully thin imo. I have a whole thread on here where it's her PR people flooding social media and news outlets and getting stories planted that go viral and into syndicated outlets that are just the grossest bullsh it I've ever seen from a celebrity at her level. She still does it, as recently as last week and every week etc. I haven't seen BLL 2 - I hear she's great there and that is awesome I want to see it and maybe Bombshell will be a winner too - I want to see great work from anyone - but it's hard not to want to see her bomb out sometimes because she's so f'n needy and thirsty and has such a horrid machine of spin and PR. Not kicking her when she's down, heck my favorite actor starred in his worst film ever in 2018 - think about the horror of that statement.........and he deserves it a bit too - take sh it roles and sh it happens. .............but when everything at Toronto has people raving about it, it's kind of hard not to smile a little bit about this solemn film striking out there. Is it really a battle when only one party is actually relevant?
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Post by Lubezki on Sept 9, 2019 16:37:07 GMT
JoJo Rabbit is being destroyed by the critics. I wonder what wins the People's Choice Award? Marriage Story? A Beautiful Day In The Neighborhood? Parasite? Knives Out? After tonight’s premiere, J O K E R
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Post by DeepArcher on Sept 9, 2019 16:40:24 GMT
I wonder what wins the People's Choice Award? Marriage Story? A Beautiful Day In The Neighborhood? Parasite? Knives Out? Wanna say it's Beautiful Day's to lose because I still think it'll follow the Green Book awards narrative more or less to a tee, but that said Joker feels like it posits a real threat to run away with the award. I'd say those two and maybe Knives Out or Parasite are the top three.
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Post by stephen on Sept 9, 2019 16:55:54 GMT
I wonder what wins the People's Choice Award? Marriage Story? A Beautiful Day In The Neighborhood? Parasite? Knives Out? Wanna say it's Beautiful Day's to lose because I still think it'll follow the Green Book awards narrative more or less to a tee, but that said Joker feels like it posits a real threat to run away with the award. I'd say those two and maybe Knives Out or Parasite are the top three. I mean, if Joker wins the Golden Lion and the People's Choice . . . maybe we should be looking at it as a veritable threat for the big prize. It actually would make sense; after Green Book (which garnered Crash comparisons aplenty), maybe the Academy will swerve into their dark sensibilities again like they did in '06.
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Post by TerryMontana on Sept 9, 2019 17:01:14 GMT
Seems it was too early to say Jojo had some great reviews...
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Post by wilcinema on Sept 9, 2019 17:04:21 GMT
I really don't think Joker can win the People's Choice, especially after winning Venice. It already had enough hype as it was, it cannot sustain it at a festival like Toronto.
I'm betting on Knives Out, I have this feeling.
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Post by quetee on Sept 9, 2019 17:12:16 GMT
People choice....
Knives out Joker Marriage story Waves A beautiful day
One of those..
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Post by Good God on Sept 9, 2019 17:20:10 GMT
Yes, this feels like a strange year. I guess A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood can't be ruled out for Best Picture, but it feels sort of too much like Green Book to me which is why I don't see a film like that winning two years in a row. So right now I think we only have The Irishman, Little Women, 1917, Harriet, and I guess Bombshell still left to be seen, and really the only one that I think has a realistic chance to win Best Picture out of those is The Irishman. Yet even then I'm not very confident that it will actually win Best Picture since the front-runner that far out rarely wins. Is it really going to be Once Upon a Time in Hollywood vs. Marriage Story? The latter seems too small, but so far it's not divisive and has a high MC/RT score whereas it seems like most of other contenders will be too divisive or won't have the critics boosting them. I know Green Book didn't need critics, but that was such a crowdpleaser that was tailor made for baby boomers, and was seen as being "important". Plus, Roma was also nominated for Best Foreign Language Film which was one of the things that made it tough for it to win Best Picture too. I think OUATIH ends up winning because I think it's about the industry, and it seems to have more of a message than Marriage Story does. Plus, I've seen people bring up Crash winning, and then AMPAS swerving hard the other way, so I feel like we'll see that again after Green Book's win. So OUATIH can be like No Country for Old Men in that they both didn't win anything at Cannes, but won Best Picture in the end. Plus, Tarantino is a veteran like the Coens who has been previously awarded for screenplay but not for Best Picture or Directing yet. I can also see Brad Pitt winning Supporting Actor; although I don't see him sweeping like Javier Bardem did, but with the televised awards he'll likely sweep. Marriage Story probably wins Supporting Actress and Original Screenplay as consolation prizes; although, Actress and Actor are still in play, albeit I think Driver will just have to settle for winning more critics prizes overall but end up losing once the televised awards start. I sort of dismissed OUaTiH's chances after I watched it, but I'm starting to think it's got a shot again. It comes down to how the Academy receives it, and the signs are positive that they'll take it well. It is about their industry and city, after all. Right now, I think only Marriage Story is ahead, and there is always a chance the Academy might opt for something more grand than a domestic drama.
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Post by morton on Sept 9, 2019 17:32:33 GMT
I really don't think Joker can win the People's Choice, especially after winning Venice. It already had enough hype as it was, it cannot sustain it at a festival like Toronto. I'm betting on Knives Out, I have this feeling. Yeah, if it won Toronto, it would definitely win Best Picture, but I don't think it's going to be that easy for it. Plus I'm thinking about The Shape of Water and how most everyone predicted that to win the People's Choice Award after it won the Golden Lion, and it didn't even place anywhere. My feeling is if a film like that which is strange but ultimately has a happy ending doesn't win the People's Choice Award, I don't think Joker will be able to either because they usually go for heart-warming stuff plus I'm sure there will be some backlash to it winning the Golden Lion that hurts it's chances at TIFF. Yes, this feels like a strange year. I guess A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood can't be ruled out for Best Picture, but it feels sort of too much like Green Book to me which is why I don't see a film like that winning two years in a row. So right now I think we only have The Irishman, Little Women, 1917, Harriet, and I guess Bombshell still left to be seen, and really the only one that I think has a realistic chance to win Best Picture out of those is The Irishman. Yet even then I'm not very confident that it will actually win Best Picture since the front-runner that far out rarely wins. Is it really going to be Once Upon a Time in Hollywood vs. Marriage Story? The latter seems too small, but so far it's not divisive and has a high MC/RT score whereas it seems like most of other contenders will be too divisive or won't have the critics boosting them. I know Green Book didn't need critics, but that was such a crowdpleaser that was tailor made for baby boomers, and was seen as being "important". Plus, Roma was also nominated for Best Foreign Language Film which was one of the things that made it tough for it to win Best Picture too. I think OUATIH ends up winning because I think it's about the industry, and it seems to have more of a message than Marriage Story does. Plus, I've seen people bring up Crash winning, and then AMPAS swerving hard the other way, so I feel like we'll see that again after Green Book's win. So OUATIH can be like No Country for Old Men in that they both didn't win anything at Cannes, but won Best Picture in the end. Plus, Tarantino is a veteran like the Coens who has been previously awarded for screenplay but not for Best Picture or Directing yet. I can also see Brad Pitt winning Supporting Actor; although I don't see him sweeping like Javier Bardem did, but with the televised awards he'll likely sweep. Marriage Story probably wins Supporting Actress and Original Screenplay as consolation prizes; although, Actress and Actor are still in play, albeit I think Driver will just have to settle for winning more critics prizes overall but end up losing once the televised awards start. I sort of dismissed OUaTiH's chances after I watched it, but I'm starting to think it's got a shot again. It comes down to how the Academy receives it, and the signs are positive that they'll take it well. It is about their industry and city, after all. Right now, I think only Marriage Story is ahead, and there is always a chance the Academy might opt for something more grand than a domestic drama. True it depends how grand in scale voters want to go this year. Last year was pretty small in scale, so they might go the opposite way. That's also why I feel that A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood and The Two Popes won't end up winning in the end because they're too much like Green Book in they're about friendships between two men, and have some kind of message attached to them too even if both of those films are crowd pleasers.
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Post by Good God on Sept 9, 2019 17:37:35 GMT
True it depends how grand in scale voters want to go this year. Last year was pretty small in scale, so they might go the opposite way. That's also why I feel that A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood and The Two Popes won't end up winning in the end because they're too much like Green Book in they're about friendships between two men, and have some kind of message attached to them too even if both of those films are crowd pleasers. I can imagine Neighborhood winning, because there is a chance it captures the zeitgeist by flooding people with a wave of nostalgia, but I can't imagine The Two Popes winning at all. I also have a hard time imagining Netflix prioritizing The Two Popes over Marriage Story or The Irishman.
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Post by TerryMontana on Sept 9, 2019 18:05:49 GMT
I'm betting on Neighborhood.
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 9, 2019 18:30:43 GMT
I don't understand the board much these days - Jojo Rabbit and The Goldfinch looked good to some people (they really didn't), The Irishman trailer didn't impress some people (it really should have), people STILL have Irishman showing in BP with 0 acting nominees (literally impossible) and no one thinks the nicey-nice Oscar begging race movie will win the People's Choice award @ Toronto........ok.......fnck it, I'll say it ...... Just Mercy. I haven't seen any of course, I'm just going with the William Goldman "nobody knows anything" rule
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Post by The-Havok on Sept 9, 2019 18:41:14 GMT
We can finally put the headscratching prediction for Jojo Rabbit to rest. I'm glad it's getting panned
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Post by The-Havok on Sept 9, 2019 18:44:59 GMT
It's not really getting rave reviews. Not from critics, anyway. Might not even hit 80 on Metacritic if the reactions keep up. Yes, this feels like a strange year. I guess A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood can't be ruled out for Best Picture, but it feels sort of too much like Green Book to me which is why I don't see a film like that winning two years in a row. So right now I think we only have The Irishman, Little Women, 1917, Harriet, and I guess Bombshell still left to be seen, and really the only one that I think has a realistic chance to win Best Picture out of those is The Irishman. Yet even then I'm not very confident that it will actually win Best Picture since the front-runner that far out rarely wins. Is it really going to be Once Upon a Time in Hollywood vs. Marriage Story? The latter seems too small, but so far it's not divisive and has a high MC/RT score whereas it seems like most of other contenders will be too divisive or won't have the critics boosting them. I know Green Book didn't need critics, but that was such a crowdpleaser that was tailor made for baby boomers, and was seen as being "important". Plus, Roma was also nominated for Best Foreign Language Film which was one of the things that made it tough for it to win Best Picture too. I think OUATIH ends up winning because I think it's about the industry, and it seems to have more of a message than Marriage Story does. Plus, I've seen people bring up Crash winning, and then AMPAS swerving hard the other way, so I feel like we'll see that again after Green Book's win. So OUATIH can be like No Country for Old Men in that they both didn't win anything at Cannes, but won Best Picture in the end. Plus, Tarantino is a veteran like the Coens who has been previously awarded for screenplay but not for Best Picture or Directing yet. I can also see Brad Pitt winning Supporting Actor; although I don't see him sweeping like Javier Bardem did, but with the televised awards he'll likely sweep. Marriage Story probably wins Supporting Actress and Original Screenplay as consolation prizes; although, Actress and Actor are still in play, albeit I think Driver will just have to settle for winning more critics prizes overall but end up losing once the televised awards start. It's going to be OUATIH vs Joker vs Marriage Story. Joker already beat Marriage Story in a festival with both industry and critics rallying behind it.
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Post by pendragon on Sept 9, 2019 19:10:32 GMT
It's not really getting rave reviews. Not from critics, anyway. Might not even hit 80 on Metacritic if the reactions keep up. Yep. First 6 reviews are in and it's at 45. Malick rises.
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Post by quetee on Sept 9, 2019 21:28:59 GMT
People choice.... Knives out Joker Marriage story Waves A beautiful day One of those.. I guess just mercy is possible also.
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Post by MoonShadow on Sept 9, 2019 23:00:25 GMT
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Post by Lubezki on Sept 10, 2019 3:17:48 GMT
lmaooo vintage Wockeen. These two are fantastic together
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Post by Lubezki on Sept 10, 2019 3:24:43 GMT
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Post by The-Havok on Sept 10, 2019 3:31:49 GMT
Saw some spoiler heavy footage. I legit felt like I was watching The Godfather Part II all over again.
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Post by quetee on Sept 10, 2019 3:33:31 GMT
Did you guys know that if you're in either Venice or Telluride, you can't premiere until the first Monday?
Oh and did you guys see that the movie theatre at Tiff is neither allowing Netflix nor Amazon showcase its movies in the biggest theatre.
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Post by dazed on Sept 10, 2019 3:40:15 GMT
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Post by Good God on Sept 10, 2019 3:53:30 GMT
God damn it. I never thought I'd be this excited to watch a Todd Phillips movie.
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