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Post by morton on Jul 23, 2019 18:24:00 GMT
LinkI think this is worse than the 100 Best Movies of the Decade list that the just put out yesterday, and that list was pretty awful. It seems like they just took every performance that they liked from last year through in some from a couple of years ago on top of that, and then remembered that they should add in a few performances from earlier in the decade.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jul 23, 2019 18:30:30 GMT
Yeah, it's a pretty poor list. The ordering is also really weird. Like I understand having PSH in 1, since a lot of people think his work in The Master is a bit transcendent, but it's almost like they threw all the names in a random blender, and this was the result.
And some of their choices make me go huh, like Tim Hediecker in The Comedian, and Tiffany Haddish in Girls Trip. I haven't seen the earlier, but was Haddish really worthy enough for being on a list of one of the top fifty performances of the decade? I don't agree. Just poorly conceived and way too early, all-around.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jul 23, 2019 18:42:52 GMT
I almost forgot Elizabeth Debicki was in The Great Gatsby.
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Post by stephen on Jul 23, 2019 18:45:04 GMT
I almost forgot Elizabeth Debicki was in The Great Gatsby. Only good thing about it, if you ask me.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 23, 2019 18:48:15 GMT
Hmmmmm.........just for men ...........the lesser Master performance (it's great, love it, but he's 2nd), the wrong DDL performance, missing Casey Affleck's performance which to me evoked Brando without copying, and missing my overall number 1 - Javier Bardem in Biutiful which obliterates much of this group.
Not a great list to say the least.......
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Post by stephen on Jul 23, 2019 19:00:49 GMT
Hmmmmm.........just for men ...........the lesser Master performance (it's great, love it, but he's 2nd), the wrong DDL performance, missing Casey Affleck's performance which to me evoked Brando without copying, and missing my overall number 1 - Javier Bardem in Biutiful which obliterates much of this group. Not a great list to say the least....... I'm thinking we all need to do our own collective list at the end of the year.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 19:07:25 GMT
This list kind of sucks. How are they going to put PSH at #1 and decide Phoenix doesn’t even make the cut? Agree with pacinoyes 100% on this one as well as them giving DDL the nod for the wrong film.
And I liked Ronan fine in Lady Bird, but the 6th best performance of the decade? Come on.!And Blanchett’s role in Carol as the best female work of the decade? Dunst below Theron for Mad Max? No Hawke but there’s room for Lady GaGa? Nahhh
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Post by Sharbs on Jul 23, 2019 19:07:53 GMT
Saoirse in Brooklyn isn't here. lel
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Post by stephen on Jul 23, 2019 19:09:30 GMT
This list kind of sucks. How are they going to put PSH at #1 and decide Phoenix doesn’t even make the cut? Agree with pacinoyes 100% on this one as well as them giving DDL the nod for the wrong film. And I liked Ronan fine in Lady Bird, but the 6th best performance of the decade? Come on.!And Blanchett’s role in Carol as the best female work of the decade? Dunst below Theron for Mad Max? No Hawke but there’s room for Lady GaGa? Nahhh Hey now, that's one of the few things they got right.
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Post by DeepArcher on Jul 23, 2019 19:37:08 GMT
Hmmmmm.........just for men ...........the lesser Master performance (it's great, love it, but he's 2nd), the wrong DDL performance, missing Casey Affleck's performance which to me evoked Brando without copying, and missing my overall number 1 - Javier Bardem in Biutiful which obliterates much of this group. Not a great list to say the least....... I'm thinking we all need to do our own collective list at the end of the year. I’ve been planning on running a best films of the decade poll, I just wasn’t gonna put up a thread until later in the year. (Let’s not rush it just because fucking Indiewire is being so damn premature...) If someone else wants to take care of acting, that’d be great.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Jul 23, 2019 19:43:23 GMT
What a terrible list.
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Post by DeepArcher on Jul 23, 2019 19:50:52 GMT
The funny thing about this list is that those top two picks are both from films with two great leads, and yet they chose the wrong one for both. Phoenix and Mara in those same films might actually be my two favorites of the decade, or at least both well within the top five...
Again plagued by recency bias and yet from last year they left off Hawke (a goddamn crime) and The Favourite ladies who should’ve at least shared a spot, not to mention the sin of snubbing the Phantom Thread trio ... Phoenix and Gosling are the actors of the decade and they get left off completely?? Truly an embarrassment that just kinda copy/pasted from the already lackluster movies list. Too much a reflection of certain individual tastes, any regular Letterboxd users will know Ehrlich’s taste well enough to see his influence all over both of these lists to an absurd degree ... and yes I appreciate some more obscure shoutouts, but these lists are just far too niche to be serving their purpose well.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 23, 2019 19:57:08 GMT
3. DDL - Lincoln Yep, wrong
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jul 23, 2019 20:02:07 GMT
yeah, PSH being #1, DDL's Lincoln being #3 and Oscar Isaac cracking the top 10 for Llewyn Davis is all I need to know it's a great list
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Post by pendragon on Jul 23, 2019 20:06:42 GMT
Why does Indiewire think that the decade is over? They really couldn't wait another 5 or 6 months to do this?
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Post by fiosnasiob on Jul 23, 2019 20:59:01 GMT
The top 1 is an inspired choice to me, PSH is really brillant in that film and he's the MVP but if you have him at 1 you should have Phoenix somewhere on the list too, except if they have some "only one performance by movie" rules, IDK, I didn't open the link but I hope so because many performances aren't even the best of their own movies. But yeah many mediocre or terrible choices, Tom Cruise is here for running fast at 55+ ?!
EDIT : I see 2 actors from A Separation, so no rules. And Shahab Hosseini (and Sareh Bayat) owned that film btw and he's not even here. I think they really chose randomly lol.
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Post by morton on Jul 23, 2019 21:07:45 GMT
The top 1 is an inspired choice to me, PSH is really brillant in that film and he's the MVP but if you have him at 1 you should have Phoenix somewhere on the list too, except if they have some "only one performance by movie" rules, IDK, I didn't open the link but I hope so because many performances aren't even the best of their own movies. But yeah many mediocre or terrible choices, Tom Cruise is here for running fast at 55+ ?! When I first scanned through the list, I thought that there might be a one actor per film rule too because I was wondering where Joaquin Phoenix was. Then, when I was typing it out though, I saw that Leila Hatami and Payman Maadi both made it in for A Separation. It makes the list even odder and worse to me because if it's not one actor per film, they certainly did a poor job of compiling their list. ETA: lol, it looks like we were typing at the same time.
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Post by Viced on Jul 23, 2019 21:16:44 GMT
Another Indiewire list that sucks. I'm stunned!
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Post by Archie on Jul 23, 2019 21:25:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 21:27:45 GMT
This is hysterical.
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Post by Drish on Jul 23, 2019 21:29:01 GMT
Never in my life would I understand what that Burning guy did to get so much of praise! Different opinions, I guess.
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Post by isabelaolive on Jul 23, 2019 21:31:27 GMT
I found the list reasonably good. There are a number of performances mentioned that I found questionable, not because they were bad performances, but because they were not the actor's best performance of this decade, such as DDL in Lincoln in third place when he was infinitely better in Phantom Thread, Tilda Swinton for OLLA when she was better in WNTTAK, etc. Not to mention that Joaquin, Ryan, Michelle, Carey, among other actors who delivered a lot of amazing performances this decade with no performance mentioned on the list, but at least they included Sandra Huller, Helena Howard, Eva Melander, Denis Lavant, Daniela Vega, Leila Hatami , Ando Sakura, etc.
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Post by countjohn on Jul 23, 2019 21:51:18 GMT
This is pretty bad.
They have a lot of people on there for the wrong performance. DDL for Lincoln instead of Phantom Thread and Saoirse for Lady Bird instead of Brooklyn.
Haven't seen Girl's Trip or Paddington 2 but I'm going to guess those are just token "blockbuster choices". In a similar vein I'm as big a Cruise defender as anyone but putting him on there for a MI movie is ridiculous.
I know I opened this can of worms yesterday but Blanchett was downright bad in Carol, I love her but it just didn't work. So definitely don't agree with calling it the second best performance of the decade.
Don't know that I'd put her in the top 50 performances of the decade, but I don't really have a problem with Debicki being there. She did great and was pretty much ideal as Jordan Baker.
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Post by JangoB on Jul 23, 2019 22:17:53 GMT
All the DDL-Lincoln comments on here are libelous and wrong but yeah, I agree with the overall sentiment about the list being pretty...bad. IndieWire gotta IndieWire. Too much Ehrlrlcih's influence here with stuff like Paddington, Madeline's Madeline and MI Fallout.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jul 23, 2019 22:23:32 GMT
Well, there will be a lot of publications and outlets publishing similar lists in the next 5 months or so as the decade draws to a close, so with any luck this one will be forgotten pretty soon. Indiewire did a lot of these outlets a favor by coming out the gate first, so they'll know exactly what not to do.
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