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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 13:04:09 GMT
Whose writing do you generally prefer?
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 21, 2019 14:02:04 GMT
Haven't read much of Fitz but I prefer Hemingway out of many other writers in general.
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Post by stephen on Jul 21, 2019 18:00:36 GMT
William Faulkner smokes 'em both, but between the two, easily Big Papa.
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Post by countjohn on Jul 21, 2019 23:13:58 GMT
Gotta go with Ernie. He and Virginia Woolf are pretty much tied for my favorite novelists.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2019 0:47:49 GMT
Not thoroughly well versed in either - read 2 novels from Fitzgerald and 2 novels + 4 short stories from Hemingway - but I'd currently say Hemingway takes this pretty handily. I'm also much more interested in reading more from him. After The Great Gatsby and Tender is the Night I don't have a super high desire to delve any further into Fitzgerald any time soon (not saying either of these are bad by any stretch of the imagination, just wasn't enchanted with either), at least not with the size of my massive to-read list.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2019 0:50:16 GMT
William Faulkner smokes 'em both, but between the two, easily Big Papa. Recommended first for a Faulkner virgin? Am leaning towards starting with As I Lay Dying right now.
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Post by stephen on Jul 22, 2019 0:54:06 GMT
William Faulkner smokes 'em both, but between the two, easily Big Papa. Recommended first for a Faulkner virgin? Am leaning towards starting with As I Lay Dying right now. It's a good starting point when it comes to his novels, though I'd always advocate the short stories first. "A Rose for Emily" and "Barn Burning" are great jump-off points to get used to Faulkner's style.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2019 1:28:05 GMT
Fitzgerald.
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Post by LaraQ on Jul 22, 2019 11:45:25 GMT
Fitzgerald.I've only read a couple of Hemingway books but his style was not for me.Plus,The Great Gatsby is one of my all time favourite books.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 22, 2019 14:08:56 GMT
Hmmmmmm......Hills Like White Elephants vs. The Great Gatsby.......pfffftttttt I a mere pleb will not insult either master, you can't make me choose!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2019 15:58:48 GMT
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Post by LaraQ on Jul 22, 2019 17:01:17 GMT
Oh definitely,he's was a much more elegant writer.Hemingway's writing style was more terse/straightforward.His books were very,very masculine.Interesting that his own great Granddaughter?, prefers Fitzgerald.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2019 17:23:01 GMT
Oh definitely,he's was a much more elegant writer.Hemingway's writing style was more terse/straightforward.His books were very,very masculine.Interesting that his own great Granddaughter?, prefers Fitzgerald. Yes, Dree is Mariel's daughter. OT, but it's really interesting to me that Hemingway was such a cat person - I love it when really masculine men love cats (Victor Hugo, Robert Redford, Mark Twain, etc.). I think it shows that they have a soft, sensitive side.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2019 17:35:12 GMT
Sure, although Hemingway is easily one of the most overtly masculine writers I've read, so that would go for most authors when compared to him.
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Post by countjohn on Jul 23, 2019 6:25:48 GMT
IDK, it seems a bit silly to assign a masculine or feminine identity to prose styles. Hemingway had stereotypically masculine subject matter like war and bullfighting and such. William Faulkner smokes 'em both, but between the two, easily Big Papa. Recommended first for a Faulkner virgin? Am leaning towards starting with As I Lay Dying right now. Sound and the Fury is comparatively accessible for him (although there are stream of consciousness passages) and is generally regarded as his best so you might as well start with that.
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Post by jimmalone on Jul 28, 2019 11:22:46 GMT
Actually I can't say too much on this. Funnily enough I'm just currently reading my first Fitzgerald (over here in Europe he is contrary to Hemingway not held in such a high regard) novel "This Side of Paradise". I'm halfway through and it's a fine style, but not an impressive work overall.
As for Hemingway: I don't like everything I've read by him. But "For Whom the Bell Tolls" is on the short list of the greatst novels of the 20th century and "A Farewell to Arms" and "The Old Man and the Sea" are masterpieces as well.
I'll only vote if I have read at least a second novel by Fitzgerald, otherwise it would not be serious. But it would be tough to overtake Hemingway.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 11:55:26 GMT
Fitzgerald (over here in Europe he is contrary to Hemingway not held in such a high regard) That's really surprising to me. In America they're certainly thought of as equals. I thought it was this way worldwide?
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Post by jimmalone on Jul 28, 2019 12:12:52 GMT
Fitzgerald (over here in Europe he is contrary to Hemingway not held in such a high regard) That's really surprising to me. In America they're certainly thought of as equals. I thought it was this way worldwide? If I'd ask people who don't read much they would still know the name Hemingway, but probably have never heard of Fitzgerald. Hemingway is basically considered the greatest american writer of the 20th century over here - and certainly the most well-known.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 12:14:55 GMT
That's really surprising to me. In America they're certainly thought of as equals. I thought it was this way worldwide? If I'd ask people who don't read much they would still know the name Hemingway, but probably have never heard of Fitzgerald. Hemingway is basically considered the greatest american writer of the 20th century over here - and certainly the most well-known.
They've heard of The Great Gatsby, surely?
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Post by jimmalone on Jul 28, 2019 12:22:04 GMT
If I'd ask people who don't read much they would still know the name Hemingway, but probably have never heard of Fitzgerald. Hemingway is basically considered the greatest american writer of the 20th century over here - and certainly the most well-known.
They've heard of The Great Gatsby, surely? Yes, that book is highly well-known here as well.
Edit: And don't get me wrong: If you'd talk to people who like to read, obviously they know Fitzgerald and among readers he is valued very high as well. Just not on Hemingway's level.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Dec 27, 2019 9:02:57 GMT
I'll break the tie with Fitzgerald because of the Beautiful and the Damned.
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Post by futuretrunks on Jan 1, 2020 0:36:13 GMT
Both were absolute masters of the short story, but Gatsby stomps out Hemingway's longer works. So Fitzgerald. Hemingway influenced the common prose American English idiom much more, because he became commonly misinterpreted as just simplifying fictional prose and was thus more susceptible to emulation and parody, but his prose is no more distinguished than Fitzgerald's, nor was he a better creator of characters.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 1, 2020 1:02:20 GMT
Both have written significant works that I haven't [yet] read, but given that Gatsby is my favorite novel ever, I have to default to Fitzgerald.
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