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Post by Pavan on Jul 4, 2019 11:24:25 GMT
Mostly a psychological test for Peter Parker. "With great power comes great responsibility" that kind of thing. Similar to Raimi's Spider-Man 2 but not as great as that one. Still a pretty fun filled adventure with some cool visuals (and some bad ones) and a lot of Iron Man imagery, a couple of callbacks to the rest of Avengers. Mysterio is such a good character and the writers really had fun with him and definitely Jake Gyllenhaal but i won't lie, there was a little room from improvement this side. Tom Holland is great as Spider-Man, probably the best and that's coming from someone who loved Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man. The stakes were high and then they were not? this is where it gets tricky and thus resulted in some bizzare things happening, because it's all part of something Mysterio does. It's spoiler territory and I'm not gonna go into details. They lead into a "CGI army" battle at the end (typical of Marvel) which i did not care that much but the ending was good. Zendaya was great in this one but it's Angourie Rice who the stole the scenes whenever she was on the screen. There are two end credit scenes and you will not see them coming. First one was a pleasant surprise and the second one was kinda like a "wait what?" but still good- 7.5/10
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Post by DeepArcher on Jul 4, 2019 15:40:02 GMT
Lmao I bet every post in this thread is gonna be like “Well it didn’t reinvent the wheel but I had fun! 7/10.”
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jul 4, 2019 16:22:31 GMT
Lmao I bet every post in this thread is gonna be like “Well it didn’t reinvent the wheel but I had fun! 7/10.” Which is perfectly fine for a summer super hero movie. I’m looking forward to seeing this but am only expecting fun entertainment.
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Post by Miles Morales on Jul 4, 2019 16:44:12 GMT
This was massively entertaining with a surprising sardonic bite, satirical commentary and a layer of meta-ness. What Homecoming lacked in action, this film more than made up for it, with Jon Watts employing some really cool camera techniques. The ensemble was great all over, Tom Holland and Jake Gyllenhaal being the MVPs - especially Gyllenhaal going all Lou Bloom after the big reveal . It was also nice to see some of the more underutilized actors in Homecoming get more screentime. On the tech side, apart from some wonky CGI at points, this excels with otherwise great visual effects work, fantastic sound design, massively improved lighting from Homecoming and a slick style of capturing action (like I mentioned before). Gotta love how they utilized Stark's augmented reality projector from Civil War for Mysterio's "illusions", leading to two of the MCU's most inventive sequences . Good humour, solid writing, excellent score and really good direction - this is just a damn well-made film all over. The film works better as a Homecoming sequel than an epilogue to the Infinity Saga, but it still has its share of affecting moments. It's not my favourite MCU film, and it's definitely no Into the Spider-Verse (then again, ITSV is one-of-a-kind masterpiece so it's pretty unfair to compare both), but in my opinion, it's probably the most well-rounded MCU film. And those two post-credit scenes... holy shit! I didn't see either of them coming. I'll give it a 9/10. #9 in my MCU rankings. I wonder how folks on MAR will react to this film, given the generally negative reception Homecoming got here. On a side note, I'm probs going to attract a lot of hate for this, but MCU Peter and MJ's romance > Raimi Peter and MJ's romance
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Post by morton on Jul 4, 2019 18:43:14 GMT
Lmao I bet every post in this thread is gonna be like “Well it didn’t reinvent the wheel but I had fun! 7/10.” This was definitely me, lol. I liked it, but I just had a few things that didn't make me quite love it. Like I don't know much about Spider-Man, but I had seen all the speculation about Mysterio being the villain. Even if I hadn't seen that, it was pretty easy to see coming, but the build up to that just felt really long. I think the field trip parts were very charming to watch before that (and after that) because they really nailed what those trips were like, but I wish that Europe had been filmed better because if you're going to go over there to film it, it seems a shame to make it look so generic. Then there was that one scene. Holy exposition Batman! I understand why it was needed, but just felt like a parody because of how long it was and how many people were involved that gave an evil villain telling all their plans scene. I really loved the first fight though because of how the villain was able to get inside Peter's mind so effectively. It was very Scarecrow like, and a lot of the images in that scene were very creepy which I wasn't expecting. Also I knew one scene was a fakeout, but I wanted to believe so badly. I just wish the final fight had been a little bit more creative like that fight. The only part that stuck with me about that one is Peter using his tingle, lol, to get through the drones, especially at the end when Mysterio tries to kill him from point blank range. That was very chilling. Jake Gyllenhaal really did an excellent job with balancing parts of his role so effectively. Tom Holland was fun too, and it was refreshing to buy that the superhero was struggling so much. I don't have much to base it on for MCU movies, but in Captain Marvel and Endgame, I never once got that feeling that the heroes ever really struggled, so I assumed that was part of the MCU pattern. Finally, the two credit scenes almost made up for some of the weaker part of the movie for me. The first one had my jaw dropping, and I'm definitely hooked on a sequel already when I only basically decided to go see this because of A-List. The second one surprised me too, but not as much as the first. I'm enjoying reading all the theories about that scene though.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jul 4, 2019 18:43:23 GMT
Lmao I bet every post in this thread is gonna be like “Well it didn’t reinvent the wheel but I had fun! 7/10.” You underestimate MCU/Disney fandom here.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Jul 5, 2019 1:56:04 GMT
I wasn't a huge fan of Homecoming, so I sort of went into this with low expectations, but I came out pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed myself. In fact, this is probably my favorite live-action Spider-Man film since Spider-Man 2, from which it draws a lot of the same thematic points. I still miss the tone of Raimi's films, which I thought struck a great balance of genuine pathos and fun, but here I appreciated that the storytelling had a little more emotional weight compared to Homecoming. Another reason I prefered this over Homecoming was the villain. As much as I admired the direction the writers took with Vulture as a character in the beginning, as a threat he still felt rather lightweight, and the twist regarding his character at the end felt too contrived and lazy to me. I thought the way Mysterio was handled, however, was very satisying as I had been waiting to see a live-action version of his character in a Spider-Man film for years. The reveal here maybe took a little too long to happen (considering it is stupidly obvious, but expected if you know the character already), though I liked how the film presented him as a genuinely dangerous character (Batman's Scarecrow came to mind for me as well). I loved the scenes of illusion meant to torment Peter, which were unpredictable and clever, and even unsettling at times, Gyllenhaal was quite entertaining, and the final action set piece was aces. Also, as someone who is generally immune to "couple cuteness," I can't deny the delightfully awkward adorableness of Peter and MJ's relationship. It doesn't feel forced in the slightest, so kudos to the writers and to the chemistry between Holland and Zendaya, who manage to really sell a fresh and believable high school romance.
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Post by cherry68 on Jul 5, 2019 17:56:14 GMT
I wonder why Tom Holland is always dating girls taller than him. I have to say, the thing with the glasses and Mysterio was quite predictable... I mean, him saying glasses didn't look good on Peter was an obvious attempt at getting them. I still don't get how they work, if Peter could have them back without Mysterio 's authorization . I was pleased one of my favorite Italian songs from 1980 was in the score (Stella stai). I had few issues as I haven't seen avengers endgame, but the movie could be followed all the same. In general, two hours of entertainment, especially for teenagers.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jul 5, 2019 20:47:05 GMT
This was massively entertaining with a surprising sardonic bite, satirical commentary and a layer of meta-ness. What Homecoming lacked in action, this film more than made up for it, with Jon Watts employing some really cool camera techniques. The ensemble was great all over, Tom Holland and Jake Gyllenhaal being the MVPs - especially Gyllenhaal going all Lou Bloom after the big reveal . It was also nice to see some of the more underutilized actors in Homecoming get more screentime. On the tech side, apart from some wonky CGI at points, this excels with otherwise great visual effects work, fantastic sound design, massively improved lighting from Homecoming and a slick style of capturing action (like I mentioned before). Gotta love how they utilized Stark's augmented reality projector from Civil War for Mysterio's "illusions", leading to two of the MCU's most inventive sequences . Good humour, solid writing, excellent score and really good direction - this is just a damn well-made film all over. The film works better as a Homecoming sequel than an epilogue to the Infinity Saga, but it still has its share of affecting moments. It's not my favourite MCU film, and it's definitely no Into the Spider-Verse (then again, ITSV is one-of-a-kind masterpiece so it's pretty unfair to compare both), but in my opinion, it's probably the most well-rounded MCU film. And those two post-credit scenes... holy shit! I didn't see either of them coming. I'll give it a 9/10. #9 in my MCU rankings. I wonder how folks on MAR will react to this film, given the generally negative reception Homecoming got here. On a side note, I'm probs going to attract a lot of hate for this, but MCU Peter and MJ's romance > Raimi Peter and MJ's romance Outside of Doc Oct...pretty much everything from MCU Spider-Man >>> Raimi’s Spider-Man. I recently rewatched all of Raimi’s Spider-Man movies and none of them are very good tbh. For as beloved as Spider-Man 2 still is...every scene that doesn’t have Doc Oct in it is pretty terrible.
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Post by Viced on Jul 5, 2019 20:56:46 GMT
Outside of Doc Oct...pretty much everything from MCU Spider-Man >>> Raimi’s Spider-Man. I recently rewatched all of Raimi’s Spider-Man movies and none of them are very good tbh. For as beloved as Spider-Man 2 still is...every scene that doesn’t have Doc Oct in it is pretty terrible.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jul 5, 2019 21:13:59 GMT
Outside of Doc Oct...pretty much everything from MCU Spider-Man >>> Raimi’s Spider-Man. I recently rewatched all of Raimi’s Spider-Man movies and none of them are very good tbh. For as beloved as Spider-Man 2 still is...every scene that doesn’t have Doc Oct in it is pretty terrible.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jul 5, 2019 21:27:51 GMT
Outside of Doc Oct...pretty much everything from MCU Spider-Man >>> Raimi’s Spider-Man. I recently rewatched all of Raimi’s Spider-Man movies and none of them are very good tbh. For as beloved as Spider-Man 2 still is...every scene that doesn’t have Doc Oct in it is pretty terrible. Gotta disagree with you there. Spider-Man 2 is up there with The Dark Knight for the best the genre has to offer. Multiple characters with vibrant inner lives and a genuine sense of consequence to their actions (not to mention arcs instead of an illusion of change so that the grand design of MCU is never disrupted), legitimate thematic development, more varied comedy since Raimi's sense of humor extends beyond simple one-liners, a properly balanced tone given that it doesn't constantly undercut its own tension with said one-liners, and wildly inventive and kinetic action sequences (nothing from all of the MCU touches the train sequence). This all isn't to take away from the one thing a lot of the MCU unfortunately lacks enough of: tension. It took until the end of Far From Home for something to happen to the MCU Spider-Man to make me curious where he would go from here; everything beforehand gave me little to no reason to doubt everything would turn out gravy for him since he has it pretty easy* and being Spider-Man has caused little to no complications for him until that ending. Now, lack of conflict in superhero identity can be fun for wish fulfillment but it's pretty useless for dramatic narrative and if there's one thing Raimi's Spider-Man (and Spider-Man 2 in particular) established, it was that being Spider-Man came with a lot of baggage and generally fucking sucked. *Yes, I know he died in Infinity War and all, but he had no way of preventing or reversing that, making it just a thing that happened rather than something the character had to struggle through. Not to mention it's still rather tension-less since we as an audience knew there was no way he was going to stay dead.
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Post by Miles Morales on Jul 6, 2019 2:33:07 GMT
This was massively entertaining with a surprising sardonic bite, satirical commentary and a layer of meta-ness. What Homecoming lacked in action, this film more than made up for it, with Jon Watts employing some really cool camera techniques. The ensemble was great all over, Tom Holland and Jake Gyllenhaal being the MVPs - especially Gyllenhaal going all Lou Bloom after the big reveal . It was also nice to see some of the more underutilized actors in Homecoming get more screentime. On the tech side, apart from some wonky CGI at points, this excels with otherwise great visual effects work, fantastic sound design, massively improved lighting from Homecoming and a slick style of capturing action (like I mentioned before). Gotta love how they utilized Stark's augmented reality projector from Civil War for Mysterio's "illusions", leading to two of the MCU's most inventive sequences . Good humour, solid writing, excellent score and really good direction - this is just a damn well-made film all over. The film works better as a Homecoming sequel than an epilogue to the Infinity Saga, but it still has its share of affecting moments. It's not my favourite MCU film, and it's definitely no Into the Spider-Verse (then again, ITSV is one-of-a-kind masterpiece so it's pretty unfair to compare both), but in my opinion, it's probably the most well-rounded MCU film. And those two post-credit scenes... holy shit! I didn't see either of them coming. I'll give it a 9/10. #9 in my MCU rankings. I wonder how folks on MAR will react to this film, given the generally negative reception Homecoming got here. On a side note, I'm probs going to attract a lot of hate for this, but MCU Peter and MJ's romance > Raimi Peter and MJ's romance Outside of Doc Oct...pretty much everything from MCU Spider-Man >>> Raimi’s Spider-Man. I recently rewatched all of Raimi’s Spider-Man movies and none of them are very good tbh. For as beloved as Spider-Man 2 still is...every scene that doesn’t have Doc Oct in it is pretty terrible. As much as I love MCU's version of Spider-Man, I gotta disagree with you there. Granted, I grew up with the Raimi films so they have a special place in my heart, but still, the first two films are still great and Spider-Man 3, while not perfect, is still a decent film and vastly superior to both Man of Steel and Batman v. Superman. The Raimi films also have an unique sense of earnestness and comic book-y charm that hasn't been quite emulated by any other superhero film (apart from Into the Spider-Verse). And c'mon! Every scene with J. Jonah Jameson is absolute gold. Seeing J.K. Simmons reprising the role in the mid-credits scene made me incredibly happy.
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Post by JangoB on Jul 6, 2019 12:44:28 GMT
I'll put all my thoughts in spoilers because I want to be able to express'em freely (I liked the movie quite a bit): Maybe it's because the night before I watched the film there was another one of those horrible propaganda shows on Russia's top federal channel which I happened to watch or maybe it's because the same shit happens everywhere in the world right now from all political sides, but the theme of manipulating people's perceptions through literal illusions hooked me in a way that I didn't expect from another silly Spidey adventure. For once an MCU villain actually stood out and that's because his main thing wasn't just about throwing people against walls. It was about a very real, dangerous way of fucking with people's minds. And the use of drones to carry out the destructive part of his deeds is also something very relevant to our times. That's the aspect of the movie I liked the most - how its supervillain directly relates to our current state of things and how goddamn strange it is for all of us right now to be reading/watching the news and being completely unsure whether what we're told has at least some truth in it.
Even the way they basically turned The Daily Bugle into InfoWars at the end was so damn on point. Oh and that J.K. Simmons appearance made me really goddamn happy. I hope the next installment uses the Parker vs. JJJameson storyline at least in some capacity.
The overall experience was quite enjoyable too. Even though the film does deal with the loss of Tony Stark, the tone remains very comedic and light which I appreciated. Parker's journey of dealing with the responsibility bestowed upon him is something that I think we can all relate to. Of course this is something that a lot of superhero flicks have explored before but in this case with him basically being a kid this character theme becomes more palpable. When he gives the Edith glasses to Beck, it's not just a functional plotpoint - you can just feel that this kid is desperate to try and find someone under whose wing he could stay and that he's just not ready to take such burden on himself. We've all had those experiences in micro-form - getting our first jobs, leaving our households, starting families. I think "Far from Home" is better than "Homecoming" precisely because it integrates that same lightness of touch with something more interesting thematically.
I kinda loved Mysterio too. In particular I'm happy that they dived into his illusion-making shit quite thoroughly - the sequences in which he fucks with Parker's brain by placing him inside the illusions are terrific. And seeing Jake G hamming it up in his mo-cap suit was hilarious.
I'm not saying it's a great film or anything - like most of the MCU product, it doesn't really stay with you or leave much of an impression after it's over. But I found a lot to like about it.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jul 7, 2019 1:31:32 GMT
My review. www.dailyuv.com/profile/2232/981174Some further thoughts as well. I absolutely loved the mid credit-scene, seeing J.K. Simmons back as Jonah was a stroke of brilliance on Marvel's part, and reinventing him and The Daily Bugle, as a conservative trashy news source for the modern age was equally as impressive, and makes a whole lot of sense. I'm curious what the next film will do, now that everyone knows Peter's real identity. I'd have to imagine that it would turn into "Spider-Man on The Lam", or something. At least we now know, that Spidey's got a great new adversary to face.
The other mid-credit revealing Nick Fury and Maria to be skrulls was great too, and makes you think. It's not as important as the Jonah scene, but I enjoyed it just as well.
The one thing I really appreciate, the more and more I think about it, is how the film manages to be a solid follow-up to Endgame, while feeling like a follow-up to Homecoming. Connecting the story back to Stark thematically work, and was very smart. It also allows us to see Peter directly struggling with his own actions and problems, which adds a huge dimension to the film, though it never forgets to be lighthearted either.
Oh and Jake Gyllenhaal was fantastic as Mysterio. I was a little worried there he'd be a lot more subdued, but seeing him go full Lou Bloom, once Quentin was exposed as a fraud, was an absolute delight. The big illusion set piece was like something out of a 60s Spidey-comic brought to life. Mikey G's big bold theme for the character, was a perfect red-herring too. I think I enjoyed this more then Homecoming, because I found that the story and characters were so much better and more engaging. There's a lot to like to like about the film.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 7, 2019 13:49:45 GMT
Saw it yesterday. It's a 7/10 for me. Liked it, it was really fun for a summer blockbuster. The build-up for Mysterio revealing his plans was too long but it worked fine. As for the mid and post-credit scenes, I liked them but I'm not so sure they'll have an impact on the MCU movies to come. Esp. the first one, I dunno. Will they take it from there and build a story on that? Or they'll start over with something completely different? The latter, I guess. Meaning who's gonna take JJJ seriously?
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Post by alexanderblanchett on Jul 7, 2019 15:04:24 GMT
Very solid sequel, not as great as the first encounter with the official Marvel Universe Spider-Man but still a very good entry to the MCU and great start of the next phase. Tom Holland once again proves that he is the perfect choice for the spider-costume as he captures the honest charme and kid-like attitude the character has based on its origins. He did not disappoint and really delivered a fine performance. Samuel L. Jackson was fine a addition to the cast, doing another turn as Nick Fury. It never gets old to see him doing the film and its even explained why he wasnt not really the same he usually is. Jake Gyllenhaal was also good. It was a creative casting decision to have him play the villain as he once was in serious talks to play Spidey himself. Zedanya is fine and so is most of the supporting cast. Nice to see Jon Favereau and Marisa Tomei having a bit more to do in this film. Some nice twsists, (some truly mind blowing ones in the post credit scenes). Great effects and very good action scenes. Loved that the setting was all over Europe which was an original turn.
8/10
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Post by Joaquim on Jul 8, 2019 0:45:06 GMT
Like I said when he was first announced to be in this, Gyllenhaal is better than this, but he did a great job in the role and I can’t really see many others pulling it off like he did.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Jul 13, 2019 20:54:37 GMT
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Jul 13, 2019 23:43:50 GMT
Lmao I bet every post in this thread is gonna be like “Well it didn’t reinvent the wheel but I had fun! 7/10.” I, uh... I did have that thought process, actually. I enjoyed it much more than Homecoming.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jul 14, 2019 13:15:03 GMT
Lmao I bet every post in this thread is gonna be like “Well it didn’t reinvent the wheel but I had fun! 7/10.” I, uh... I did have that thought process, actually. I enjoyed it much more than Homecoming. Me too. Much better than Homecoming.
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