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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 3, 2019 17:56:55 GMT
Forest WhitakerGenre: BiopicsIt took a couple of weeks, but now I can complete the masterful Godfather Of Harlem trifecta that began with Vincent D'Onofrio and Giancarlo Esposito, with the show's lead, Forest Whitaker.Whitaker is one of the finest screen actors alive. Idiosyncratic and soulful, Whitaker made his big breakthrough by being handpicked by Clint Eastwood to star in his biopic of Jazz muscian genius, Charlie "Bird" Parker in Bird, which won Whitaker the Best Actor Award at the Cannes Film Festival, signalling the auspicous arrival of a major actor. Whitaker stayed in demand afterwards, particularly with auteurs like Neil Jordan for the Crying Game, Wayne Wang for Smoke and Jim Jarmusch for Ghost Dog: Way Of The Samurai (easily Whitaker's best non-biopic role). But as an unconventional looking man, Whitaker often took whatever work he could in character roles. It's mostly biopic roles that have given him his best opportunity to shine. Bird was his big breakthrough, but he finally won a Best Actor award for a chilling performances as Ugandan dictator Idi Amin in The Last King Of Scotland. Other biopic parts included The Butler and The Great Debaters.His latest biopic role has taken him to television in the role of real life Harlem Gangster, Ellsworth "Bumpy" Johnson, who is vying for control of the Harlem drug trade with the Italian-American mafia. While the American gangster genre on film has seen better days, it is probably with longform series television like The Sopranos, Boardwalk Empire and Godfather Of Harlem to where the genre is best suited. And in his show, Whitaker is killing it (and killing quite a few people in it). Below, Whitaker as Idi Amin in The Last King Of Scotland:
Whitaker is a very interesting actor to me. He's played leading roles, like in those many biopics you listed, but for the most part he's a very straightforward character actor, who's appeared in everything from Good Morning Vietnam to Black Panther. True, but he's at least fortunate that he's had the opportunity to play some substantial leads. That can really be a crapshoot for character actors. Look at his two co-stars we just discussed previously ( D'Onofrio and Esposito). They barely managed any lead movie roles between them, despite their huge talent. Whitaker lucked out by being picked to lead Bird quite early in his career. I feel like even though he was mostly a character/supporting actor, that early Eastwood project gave people in the industry confidence that he could carry a suitable project. The trick was being seen as someone who could be a lead early...D'Onofrio and Esposito never got that early opportunity Whitaker did, and it probably cost them in the long run.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Dec 3, 2019 18:14:33 GMT
Whitaker is a very interesting actor to me. He's played leading roles, like in those many biopics you listed, but for the most part he's a very straightforward character actor, who's appeared in everything from Good Morning Vietnam to Black Panther. True, but he's at least fortunate that he's had the opportunity to play some substantial leads. That can really be a crapshoot for character actors. Look at his two co-stars we just discussed previously ( D'Onofrio and Esposito). They barely managed any lead movie roles between them, despite their huge talent. Whitaker lucked out by being picked to lead Bird quite early in his career. I feel like even though he was mostly a character/supporting actor, that early Eastwood project gave people in the industry confidence that he could carry a suitable project. The trick was being seen as someone who could be a lead early...D'Onofrio and Esposito never got that early opportunity Whitaker did, and it probably cost them in the long run. Yeah, Whitaker actually got to work with some experimental auteurs earlier on in his career like with Jarmusch and Ghost Dog for example. It's why I scoff at people who call him a "one hit wonder" because of The Last King of Scotland. If they followed his career prior to that, then they'd know it's a lot more interesting then that. Even his supporting roles were pretty noteworthy. I remember him well in The Color of Money, Panic Room, even Body Snatchers among others.
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 3, 2019 18:38:06 GMT
True, but he's at least fortunate that he's had the opportunity to play some substantial leads. That can really be a crapshoot for character actors. Look at his two co-stars we just discussed previously ( D'Onofrio and Esposito). They barely managed any lead movie roles between them, despite their huge talent. Whitaker lucked out by being picked to lead Bird quite early in his career. I feel like even though he was mostly a character/supporting actor, that early Eastwood project gave people in the industry confidence that he could carry a suitable project. The trick was being seen as someone who could be a lead early...D'Onofrio and Esposito never got that early opportunity Whitaker did, and it probably cost them in the long run. Yeah, Whitaker actually got to work with some experimental auteurs earlier on in his career like with Jarmusch and Ghost Dog for example. It's why I scoff at people who call him a "one hit wonder" because of The Last King of Scotland. If they followed his career prior to that, then they'd know it's a lot more interesting then that. Even his supporting roles were pretty noteworthy. I remember him well in The Color of Money, Panic Room, even Body Snatchers among others. Wha... Anyone who ever claimed he was a "one hit wonder" didn't follow his career properly and doesn't know what they are talking about. He won the Oscar for Last King Of Scotland in part because his career up till that point made him respected enough for the industry to think he should have an Oscar. Yes, he had a strong performance, but things like Bird, Crying Game, Ghost Dog ( and supporting roles like those you mentioned) earned him huge respect that led to that point. And his career post-Oscar has been good. He was never going to have the post-oscar career of a handsome matinee idol leading man, but he's brought solid support to a lot of quality projects ( The Great Debaters, Star Wars: Rogue One, Out Of The Furnace, Arrival, Black Panther, Sorry To Bother You), another acclaimed lead movie role in The Butler, and a lead role in television as good as any role he's had in his career in Godfather Of Harlem. He's one of the major screen character actors of our time, and considering he looks about as far from a "movie star" as you could imagine, he's had an incredible career.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Dec 3, 2019 18:49:28 GMT
Yeah, Whitaker actually got to work with some experimental auteurs earlier on in his career like with Jarmusch and Ghost Dog for example. It's why I scoff at people who call him a "one hit wonder" because of The Last King of Scotland. If they followed his career prior to that, then they'd know it's a lot more interesting then that. Even his supporting roles were pretty noteworthy. I remember him well in The Color of Money, Panic Room, even Body Snatchers among others. Wha... Anyone who ever claimed he was a "one hit wonder" didn't follow his career properly and doesn't know what they are talking about. He won the Oscar for Last King Of Scotland in part because his career up till that point made him respected enough for the industry to think he should have an Oscar. Yes, he had a strong performance, but things like Bird, Crying Game, Ghost Dog ( and supporting roles like those you mentioned) earned him huge respect that led to that point. And his career post-Oscar has been good. He was never going to have the post-oscar career of a handsome matinee idol leading man, but he's brought solid support to a lot of quality projects ( The Great Debaters, Star Wars: Rogue One, Out Of The Furnace, Arrival, Black Panther, Sorry To Bother You), another acclaimed lead movie role in The Butler, and a lead role in television as good as any role he's had in his career in Godfather Of Harlem. He's one of the major screen character actors of our time, and considering he looks about as far from a "movie star" as you could imagine, he's had an incredible career. I remember it was in response to the fact that his post Oscars career led to some duds, and some straight to DVD stuff, that there was a lot of discussion that he suffered from the Oscar curse, and he would never be able to properly follow-up that role. I thought it was nonsense at the time, and it's even more in retrospect. He's a very good actor, he actually recovered after a brief "slump"(very very brief, however). I think it helps that he got some better scripts, and started doing the smart thing, and taking franchise roles, which help keep his name relevant with important directors.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Dec 24, 2019 0:42:21 GMT
Eddie MurphyGenre: ComedyQuite simply in my opinion, the greatest comic actor ever. This man had tremendous success in every facet of comedy from standup (including Delirious and Raw his standup specials), to tv sketch comedy (became the star and face of Saturday Night Live at age 20), to his legendary run in movies. Eddie at his apex I believe was just on another level. He broke through in films in 1982 with a co-starring role in 48 Hrs. as Reggie Hammond, the fast talking, slick, convict released from prison to help Jack Cates (Nick Nolte) catch a former associate of his. The unexpected chemistry between Nolte and Murphy along with Walter Hill's direction helped this film become a hit and Murphy announcing his arrival in movies. To prove 48 Hrs. wasn't a fluke, he followed that up with Trading Places with Dan Akroyd and Jamie Lee Curtis, and then became a bonafide A-List movie star with his classic role as Detective Axel Foley in Beverly Hills Cop and put his stamp as the biggest comedic actor on the planet. With Beverly Hills Cop II and Coming to America rounding out his 80s run, Murphy was already a comedy legend before he hit the age of 30. Coming to America saw Murphy use his ability to transform himself into different characters (he showed this talent during his SNL run as well) and bring the house down with how hilarious they were, like the great Peter Sellers before him. He returned to this well again in 1996 with his remake of Jerry Lewis 1963 film The Nutty Professor where he did a herculean task of playing all but one of the Klump family members. Had the comedy genre not have historically been treated as the ugly stepchild by the Oscars, Murphy would've been more than deserving of an Oscar nomination for his performance. The Nutty Professor was one of Murphy's biggest hits in a while when it came out and was deemed as sort of a comeback for him since before than the 90s were seen as a slump for him. In 1999, comedy lovers were treated to a dream team up when Eddie starred alongside another comedy legend, Steve Martin, in Bowfinger. A funny spoof on Hollywood and movie making, Eddie played two totally different characters in Kit Ramsey (a funny sendoff of his own actual persona) and Jiff, a nerdish, naive lookalike who's manipulated into pretending to be Kit so Bowfinger can make his film. I daresay Bowfinger could've been another Oscar nomination for Murphy if again the Oscars were kinder to comedy films..this scene alone explains his rare comedic gifts Since that time though unfortunately, Murphy has moved to doing forgettable kids movies and has seemed to lost his drive and motivation for comedy. He was finally nominated for an Oscar in 2006 for Dreamgirls but lost out because he had the misfortune of also having the dreadful Norbit out in theaters during the voting process. He's also had success as a voice actor for the animated film series Shrek as Donkey, but his fans wishing he could return to the greatness he showed in the 80s and late 90s are still waiting and perhaps will never see that Eddie Murphy again. Regardless, Eddie Murphy has had a legendary long career in Hollywood and his impact not only on the Comedy genre in regards to movies but Comedy itself as a performance art form is unarguable. In relation to comedy actors, he's the GOAT. Honorable Mentions: Boomerang and Life, two of his underrated films Well, I'm happy to report I was wrong about the last blurb in this quote. Between the success and acclaim of Dolemite is My Name and his celebrated return to Saturday Night Live after 35 years where not only did he crush it with ease but delivered the show's best live ratings in 2 1/2 years, Eddie had as great a year as anybody in 2019. Can never count this dude out. Really looking forward to Coming to America 2 next year, he found his drive and the challenges to motivate himself again after semi-retirement.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Dec 24, 2019 7:31:59 GMT
Eddie MurphyGenre: ComedyQuite simply in my opinion, the greatest comic actor ever. This man had tremendous success in every facet of comedy from standup (including Delirious and Raw his standup specials), to tv sketch comedy (became the star and face of Saturday Night Live at age 20), to his legendary run in movies. Eddie at his apex I believe was just on another level. He broke through in films in 1982 with a co-starring role in 48 Hrs. as Reggie Hammond, the fast talking, slick, convict released from prison to help Jack Cates (Nick Nolte) catch a former associate of his. The unexpected chemistry between Nolte and Murphy along with Walter Hill's direction helped this film become a hit and Murphy announcing his arrival in movies. To prove 48 Hrs. wasn't a fluke, he followed that up with Trading Places with Dan Akroyd and Jamie Lee Curtis, and then became a bonafide A-List movie star with his classic role as Detective Axel Foley in Beverly Hills Cop and put his stamp as the biggest comedic actor on the planet. With Beverly Hills Cop II and Coming to America rounding out his 80s run, Murphy was already a comedy legend before he hit the age of 30. Coming to America saw Murphy use his ability to transform himself into different characters (he showed this talent during his SNL run as well) and bring the house down with how hilarious they were, like the great Peter Sellers before him. He returned to this well again in 1996 with his remake of Jerry Lewis 1963 film The Nutty Professor where he did a herculean task of playing all but one of the Klump family members. Had the comedy genre not have historically been treated as the ugly stepchild by the Oscars, Murphy would've been more than deserving of an Oscar nomination for his performance. The Nutty Professor was one of Murphy's biggest hits in a while when it came out and was deemed as sort of a comeback for him since before than the 90s were seen as a slump for him. In 1999, comedy lovers were treated to a dream team up when Eddie starred alongside another comedy legend, Steve Martin, in Bowfinger. A funny spoof on Hollywood and movie making, Eddie played two totally different characters in Kit Ramsey (a funny sendoff of his own actual persona) and Jiff, a nerdish, naive lookalike who's manipulated into pretending to be Kit so Bowfinger can make his film. I daresay Bowfinger could've been another Oscar nomination for Murphy if again the Oscars were kinder to comedy films..this scene alone explains his rare comedic gifts Since that time though unfortunately, Murphy has moved to doing forgettable kids movies and has seemed to lost his drive and motivation for comedy. He was finally nominated for an Oscar in 2006 for Dreamgirls but lost out because he had the misfortune of also having the dreadful Norbit out in theaters during the voting process. He's also had success as a voice actor for the animated film series Shrek as Donkey, but his fans wishing he could return to the greatness he showed in the 80s and late 90s are still waiting and perhaps will never see that Eddie Murphy again. Regardless, Eddie Murphy has had a legendary long career in Hollywood and his impact not only on the Comedy genre in regards to movies but Comedy itself as a performance art form is unarguable. In relation to comedy actors, he's the GOAT. Honorable Mentions: Boomerang and Life, two of his underrated films Well, I'm happy to report I was wrong about the last blurb in this quote. Between the success and acclaim of Dolemite is My Name and his celebrated return to Saturday Night Live after 35 years where not only did he crush it with ease but delivered the show's best live ratings in 2 1/2 years, Eddie had as great a year as anybody in 2019. Can never count this dude out. Really looking forward to Coming to America 2 next year, he found his drive and the challenges to motivate himself again after semi-retirement. Murphy's SNL episode was so damn good. Best the show's been in years. It was basically a "who's who" of his greatest characters and routines ( Buckwheat, Mister Robinson's Neighborhood), which is what every SNL episode hosted by former major cast member should be like. I also love this recent resurgence, in particularly since it gave me Dolemite is My Name, which is still one of his favorite movies of 2019. I'm now especially looking forward to Coming 2 America, more then so I was a few months ago. When Murphy is on his A-Game, few comedians can really match him.
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 24, 2019 11:46:34 GMT
Eddie MurphyGenre: ComedyQuite simply in my opinion, the greatest comic actor ever. This man had tremendous success in every facet of comedy from standup (including Delirious and Raw his standup specials), to tv sketch comedy (became the star and face of Saturday Night Live at age 20), to his legendary run in movies. Eddie at his apex I believe was just on another level. He broke through in films in 1982 with a co-starring role in 48 Hrs. as Reggie Hammond, the fast talking, slick, convict released from prison to help Jack Cates (Nick Nolte) catch a former associate of his. The unexpected chemistry between Nolte and Murphy along with Walter Hill's direction helped this film become a hit and Murphy announcing his arrival in movies. To prove 48 Hrs. wasn't a fluke, he followed that up with Trading Places with Dan Akroyd and Jamie Lee Curtis, and then became a bonafide A-List movie star with his classic role as Detective Axel Foley in Beverly Hills Cop and put his stamp as the biggest comedic actor on the planet. With Beverly Hills Cop II and Coming to America rounding out his 80s run, Murphy was already a comedy legend before he hit the age of 30. Coming to America saw Murphy use his ability to transform himself into different characters (he showed this talent during his SNL run as well) and bring the house down with how hilarious they were, like the great Peter Sellers before him. He returned to this well again in 1996 with his remake of Jerry Lewis 1963 film The Nutty Professor where he did a herculean task of playing all but one of the Klump family members. Had the comedy genre not have historically been treated as the ugly stepchild by the Oscars, Murphy would've been more than deserving of an Oscar nomination for his performance. The Nutty Professor was one of Murphy's biggest hits in a while when it came out and was deemed as sort of a comeback for him since before than the 90s were seen as a slump for him. In 1999, comedy lovers were treated to a dream team up when Eddie starred alongside another comedy legend, Steve Martin, in Bowfinger. A funny spoof on Hollywood and movie making, Eddie played two totally different characters in Kit Ramsey (a funny sendoff of his own actual persona) and Jiff, a nerdish, naive lookalike who's manipulated into pretending to be Kit so Bowfinger can make his film. I daresay Bowfinger could've been another Oscar nomination for Murphy if again the Oscars were kinder to comedy films..this scene alone explains his rare comedic gifts Since that time though unfortunately, Murphy has moved to doing forgettable kids movies and has seemed to lost his drive and motivation for comedy. He was finally nominated for an Oscar in 2006 for Dreamgirls but lost out because he had the misfortune of also having the dreadful Norbit out in theaters during the voting process. He's also had success as a voice actor for the animated film series Shrek as Donkey, but his fans wishing he could return to the greatness he showed in the 80s and late 90s are still waiting and perhaps will never see that Eddie Murphy again. Regardless, Eddie Murphy has had a legendary long career in Hollywood and his impact not only on the Comedy genre in regards to movies but Comedy itself as a performance art form is unarguable. In relation to comedy actors, he's the GOAT. Honorable Mentions: Boomerang and Life, two of his underrated films Well, I'm happy to report I was wrong about the last blurb in this quote. Between the success and acclaim of Dolemite is My Name and his celebrated return to Saturday Night Live after 35 years where not only did he crush it with ease but delivered the show's best live ratings in 2 1/2 years, Eddie had as great a year as anybody in 2019. Can never count this dude out. Really looking forward to Coming to America 2 next year, he found his drive and the challenges to motivate himself again after semi-retirement. Yeah... Murphy has really come back with a vengeance. SNL was a giagantic triumph , with publications like Buzzfeed calling him the GOAT afterwards (and I think he is as a comedic actor). The Best Actor Oscar race is something of a highly competitive bloodbath this season, and he could easily miss at this point for Dolemite Is My Name. But if he does maje it in the line-up, we might be able to point at his SNL performance as the factor that managed to get him over the line. But it's incredible that his comic talent or ability doesn't appear to have been dulled. No disrespect to his peers like Steve Martin, but I could never envisage them coming back to this level of form and relevance. As long as he picks scripts carefully this time around, Murphy could end up having a second act as one of the biggest comefy stars of the 2020s.
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 24, 2019 11:48:00 GMT
Well, I'm happy to report I was wrong about the last blurb in this quote. Between the success and acclaim of Dolemite is My Name and his celebrated return to Saturday Night Live after 35 years where not only did he crush it with ease but delivered the show's best live ratings in 2 1/2 years, Eddie had as great a year as anybody in 2019. Can never count this dude out. Really looking forward to Coming to America 2 next year, he found his drive and the challenges to motivate himself again after semi-retirement. Murphy's SNL episode was so damn good. Best the show's been in years. It was basically a "who's who" of his greatest characters and routines ( Buckwheat, Mister Robinson's Neighborhood), which is what every SNL episode hosted by former major cast member should be like. I also love this recent resurgence, in particularly since it gave me Dolemite is My Name, which is still one of his favorite movies of 2019. I'm now especially looking forward to Coming 2 America, more then so I was a few months ago. When Murphy is on his A-Game, few comedians can really match him. Well said. As a comic actor, he's pretty much peerless.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Dec 24, 2019 19:29:41 GMT
Well, I'm happy to report I was wrong about the last blurb in this quote. Between the success and acclaim of Dolemite is My Name and his celebrated return to Saturday Night Live after 35 years where not only did he crush it with ease but delivered the show's best live ratings in 2 1/2 years, Eddie had as great a year as anybody in 2019. Can never count this dude out. Really looking forward to Coming to America 2 next year, he found his drive and the challenges to motivate himself again after semi-retirement. Murphy's SNL episode was so damn good. Best the show's been in years. It was basically a "who's who" of his greatest characters and routines ( Buckwheat, Mister Robinson's Neighborhood), which is what every SNL episode hosted by former major cast member should be like. I also love this recent resurgence, in particularly since it gave me Dolemite is My Name, which is still one of his favorite movies of 2019. I'm now especially looking forward to Coming 2 America, more then so I was a few months ago. When Murphy is on his A-Game, few comedians can really match him. Man..when I saw they were setting up the Mister Robinson’s Neighborhood set during the commercial break I had a big smile on my face. It was cool and sort of surreal to see Eddie back at SNL. Him bringing back Gumby during the Weekend Update segment and roasting Michael Che and Colin Jost while improvising was probably the SNL highlight of the year. Crazy he can still make Gumby work in 2019. The truly amazing thing was that he hasn’t done the sketch format in 35 years..and looked like he hadn’t lost a step. Made it look effortless. I’m happy his return was celebrated and was the success it turned out to be. Good to see him enjoy performing again.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Dec 24, 2019 19:33:27 GMT
Well, I'm happy to report I was wrong about the last blurb in this quote. Between the success and acclaim of Dolemite is My Name and his celebrated return to Saturday Night Live after 35 years where not only did he crush it with ease but delivered the show's best live ratings in 2 1/2 years, Eddie had as great a year as anybody in 2019. Can never count this dude out. Really looking forward to Coming to America 2 next year, he found his drive and the challenges to motivate himself again after semi-retirement. Yeah... Murphy has really come back with a vengeance. SNL was a giagantic triumph , with publications like Buzzfeed calling him the GOAT afterwards (and I think he is as a comedic actor). The Best Actor Oscar race is something of a highly competitive bloodbath this season, and he could easily miss at this point for Dolemite Is My Name. But if he does maje it in the line-up, we might be able to point at his SNL performance as the factor that managed to get him over the line. But it's incredible that his comic talent or ability doesn't appear to have been dulled. No disrespect to his peers like Steve Martin, but I could never envisage them coming back to this level of form and relevance. As long as he picks scripts carefully this time around, Murphy could end up having a second act as one of the biggest comefy stars of the 2020s. Agreed..I believe the industry is ready to embrace him again. Hope he just uses his time to work on quality projects and not just pick crap because of the check and not give a sh/t.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Dec 24, 2019 22:22:43 GMT
Murphy's SNL episode was so damn good. Best the show's been in years. It was basically a "who's who" of his greatest characters and routines ( Buckwheat, Mister Robinson's Neighborhood), which is what every SNL episode hosted by former major cast member should be like. I also love this recent resurgence, in particularly since it gave me Dolemite is My Name, which is still one of his favorite movies of 2019. I'm now especially looking forward to Coming 2 America, more then so I was a few months ago. When Murphy is on his A-Game, few comedians can really match him. Man..when I saw they were setting up the Mister Robinson’s Neighborhood set during the commercial break I had a big smile on my face. It was cool and sort of surreal to see Eddie back at SNL. Him bringing back Gumby during the Weekend Update segment and roasting Michael Che and Colin Jost while improvising was probably the SNL highlight of the year. Crazy he can still make Gumby work in 2019. The truly amazing thing was that he hasn’t done the sketch format in 35 years..and looked like he hadn’t lost a step. Made it look effortless. I’m happy his return was celebrated and was the success it turned out to be. Good to see him enjoy performing again. I found the Velvet Jones bit to be especially hilarious. Episode also had the highest rated for SNL in years, not surprised. People love the old Eddie, and I think they're really ready to embrace him again. In retrospect, taking a break from the big screen was probably the wisest career move he could have taken.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 25, 2020 3:12:45 GMT
Nicole Kidman
Genre: Biopic
The ever prolific Australian actress is one of the most versatile and talented actors of this or any generation (and very arguably the greatest actress working today). There's barely a genre she hasn't made an impact in. But she has had a lot of success in playing real life characters over the years, most recently playing Gretchen Carlson in Bombshell, which brought her a SAG nomination. In fact, she often tends to get some kind of major awards recognition when taking on real people. Her role as Grace Kelly in the otherwise panned Grace Of Monaco landed her a SAG nomination. Her work as Martha Gellhorn in Hemingway And Gellhorn landed her both Emmy and SAG nods. Her most recent Oscar nomination came for playing a real life mother in Lion. And of course, she won her sole Oscar to date for playing Virgina Woolf in The Hours. Her recent work in Boy Erased was also well recieved.
Odds are she'll play a real person again, as the genre has been very good to her. Below, scenes from Kidman in The Hours.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jan 25, 2020 5:26:12 GMT
Nicole KidmanGenre: BiopicThe ever prolific Australian actress is one of the most versatile and talented actors of this or any generation (and very arguably the greatest actress working today ). There's barely a genre she hasn't made an impact in. But she has had a lot of success in playing real life characters over the years, most recently playing Gretchen Carlson in Bombshell, which brought her a SAG nomination. In fact, she often tends to get some kind of major awards recognition when taking on real people. Her role as Grace Kelly in the otherwise panned Grace Of Monaco landed her a SAG nomination. Her work as Martha Gellhorn in Hemingway And Gellhorn landed her both Emmy and SAG nods. Her most recent Oscar nomination came for playing a real life mother in Lion. And of course, she won her sole Oscar to date for playing Virgina Woolf in The Hours. Her recent work in Boy Erased was also well recieved. Odds are she'll play a real person again, as the genre has been very good to her. Below, scenes from Kidman in The Hours.
She'll absolutely do another biopic. Like many actors and actresses these days, she thrives on that sort of stuff. Kidman is one of those actresses who loves to do transformative work, not just for awards consideration, but also because it can be pretty challenging for her. I didn't care about Bombshell's subject matter, but she absolutely killed it with her Gretchen Carlson, both in terms of catching her mannerisms, and also way of speaking. That sort of stuff is also apparent with her other roles, like Virginia Woolf, which she won an Oscar for, not just because of superb makeup, but also because she was impeccable in her portrayal.
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Post by demille on Jan 25, 2020 5:42:12 GMT
Nicole KidmanGenre: BiopicThe ever prolific Australian actress is one of the most versatile and talented actors of this or any generation (and very arguably the greatest actress working today ). There's barely a genre she hasn't made an impact in. But she has had a lot of success in playing real life characters over the years, most recently playing Gretchen Carlson in Bombshell, which brought her a SAG nomination. In fact, she often tends to get some kind of major awards recognition when taking on real people. Her role as Grace Kelly in the otherwise panned Grace Of Monaco landed her a SAG nomination. Her work as Martha Gellhorn in Hemingway And Gellhorn landed her both Emmy and SAG nods. Her most recent Oscar nomination came for playing a real life mother in Lion. And of course, she won her sole Oscar to date for playing Virgina Woolf in The Hours. Her recent work in Boy Erased was also well recieved. Odds are she'll play a real person again, as the genre has been very good to her. Below, scenes from Kidman in The Hours.
Nice pick. Kidman loves playing strong willed, independent women based on real life people. I personally loved Queen of the Desert and think its a worthy entry into this portrait gallery. Whilst the film got criticism for not exploring in more narrative detail the political impact that Gertrude Bell had in the Middle East, I thought it worked as the spiritual journey of an independent minded women who was trying to break free from the bonds of the British Empire and discover wisdom through contact (understanding and experience) with the other. It's an esoteric film that I need to think about more, but I have the impression that Kidman understood what Herzog was trying to achieve with this film.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 25, 2020 11:05:22 GMT
Nicole KidmanGenre: BiopicThe ever prolific Australian actress is one of the most versatile and talented actors of this or any generation (and very arguably the greatest actress working today ). There's barely a genre she hasn't made an impact in. But she has had a lot of success in playing real life characters over the years, most recently playing Gretchen Carlson in Bombshell, which brought her a SAG nomination. In fact, she often tends to get some kind of major awards recognition when taking on real people. Her role as Grace Kelly in the otherwise panned Grace Of Monaco landed her a SAG nomination. Her work as Martha Gellhorn in Hemingway And Gellhorn landed her both Emmy and SAG nods. Her most recent Oscar nomination came for playing a real life mother in Lion. And of course, she won her sole Oscar to date for playing Virgina Woolf in The Hours. Her recent work in Boy Erased was also well recieved. Odds are she'll play a real person again, as the genre has been very good to her. Below, scenes from Kidman in The Hours.
She'll absolutely do another biopic. Like many actors and actresses these days, she thrives on that sort of stuff. Kidman is one of those actresses who loves to do transformative work, not just for awards consideration, but also because it can be pretty challenging for her. I didn't care about Bombshell's subject matter, but she absolutely killed it with her Gretchen Carlson, both in terms of catching her mannerisms, and also way of speaking. That sort of stuff is also apparent with her other roles, like Virginia Woolf, which she won an Oscar for, not just because of superb makeup, but also because she was impeccable in her portrayal. Yeah, according to Jay Roach, in the actual script for Bombshell, the Gretchen Carlson character had a lot less dimension than the other main roles (ostensibly because Carlson had signed an NDA, so they couldn't get her story, so couldn't be as specific), but Kidman pushed hard to bring out nuances that were not really there in conception. She's an actress that can bring a lot to a little. But yeah, she does love a challenge doesn't she? It's crazy considering her work ethic that she rarely seems to be on autopilot, which would be easy considering she's already had a stellar career with nothing left to prove. But again, it's probably why she has the strongest career for an actress in her age group. The work ethic combined with the talent is an unbeatable combination.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 25, 2020 11:18:08 GMT
Nicole KidmanGenre: BiopicThe ever prolific Australian actress is one of the most versatile and talented actors of this or any generation (and very arguably the greatest actress working today ). There's barely a genre she hasn't made an impact in. But she has had a lot of success in playing real life characters over the years, most recently playing Gretchen Carlson in Bombshell, which brought her a SAG nomination. In fact, she often tends to get some kind of major awards recognition when taking on real people. Her role as Grace Kelly in the otherwise panned Grace Of Monaco landed her a SAG nomination. Her work as Martha Gellhorn in Hemingway And Gellhorn landed her both Emmy and SAG nods. Her most recent Oscar nomination came for playing a real life mother in Lion. And of course, she won her sole Oscar to date for playing Virgina Woolf in The Hours. Her recent work in Boy Erased was also well recieved. Odds are she'll play a real person again, as the genre has been very good to her. Below, scenes from Kidman in The Hours.
Nice pick. Kidman loves playing strong willed, independent women based on real life people. I personally loved Queen of the Desert and think its a worthy entry into this portrait gallery. Whilst the film got criticism for not exploring in more narrative detail the political impact that Gertrude Bell had in the Middle East, I thought it worked as the spiritual journey of an independent minded women who was trying to break free from the bonds of the British Empire and discover wisdom through contact (understanding and experience) with the other. It's an esoteric film that I need to think about more, but I have the impression that Kidman understood what Herzog was trying to achieve with this film. Yes, Queen Of The Desert was another highly underrated performance. To be fair Kidman was probably the most praised aspect of the film (as she often is, even in panned movies). It's a film I'll have to revisit again, because whilst I didn't love it and there were some script and pacing problems, I think it was definitely far better than reviews indicated. I think critics were maybe caught offguard by Herzog making something so seemingly earnest and conventional with a female protagonist. He kind of confounded expectations with that one....which will happen when you make bat-shit crazy films like Bad Lieutenant: Port Of Call New Orleans.
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Post by demille on Jan 25, 2020 13:49:45 GMT
Nice pick. Kidman loves playing strong willed, independent women based on real life people. I personally loved Queen of the Desert and think its a worthy entry into this portrait gallery. Whilst the film got criticism for not exploring in more narrative detail the political impact that Gertrude Bell had in the Middle East, I thought it worked as the spiritual journey of an independent minded women who was trying to break free from the bonds of the British Empire and discover wisdom through contact (understanding and experience) with the other. It's an esoteric film that I need to think about more, but I have the impression that Kidman understood what Herzog was trying to achieve with this film. Yes, Queen Of The Desert was another highly underrated performance. To be fair Kidman was probably the most praised aspect of the film (as she often is, even in panned movies). It's a film I'll have to revisit again, because whilst I didn't love it and there were some script and pacing problems, I think it was definitely far better than reviews indicated. I think critics were maybe caught offguard by Herzog making something so seemingly earnest and conventional with a female protagonist. He kind of confounded expectations with that one....which will happen when you make bat-shit crazy films like Bad Lieutenant: Port Of Call New Orleans.I agree with your comments. I think its a film that I forgive its faults, which as you indicate lie mainly with the script and pacing, because of what it is attempting to achieve philosophically - and despite its faults there are long stretches of the film that are beautifully realised and profound in its thought. I like your comment about the conventional nature of the film confounding critics. The somewhat conventional storytelling, and in particular Herzog's use of romance in the story, were criticised by some as trite and of reducing Bell's achievements in the Middle East to a romance. However, I suspect that Herzog was using this type of storytelling as a way of conveying a more profound message: that of an individual's spiritual development which was achieved through different forms of love (emotional, physical, intellectual...).
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jan 25, 2020 16:12:57 GMT
She'll absolutely do another biopic. Like many actors and actresses these days, she thrives on that sort of stuff. Kidman is one of those actresses who loves to do transformative work, not just for awards consideration, but also because it can be pretty challenging for her. I didn't care about Bombshell's subject matter, but she absolutely killed it with her Gretchen Carlson, both in terms of catching her mannerisms, and also way of speaking. That sort of stuff is also apparent with her other roles, like Virginia Woolf, which she won an Oscar for, not just because of superb makeup, but also because she was impeccable in her portrayal. Yeah, according to Jay Roach, in the actual script for Bombshell, the Gretchen Carlson character had a lot less dimension than the other main roles (ostensibly because Carlson had signed an NDA, so they couldn't get her story, so couldn't be as specific), but Kidman pushed hard to bring out nuances that were not really there in conception. She's an actress that can bring a lot to a little. But yeah, she does love a challenge doesn't she? It's crazy considering her work ethic that she rarely seems to be on autopilot, which would be easy considering she's already had a stellar career with nothing left to prove. But again, it's probably why she has the strongest career for an actress in her age group. The work ethic combined with the talent is an unbeatable combination. Yeah, she's very committed to her roles, it's what I really like about her as an actress. There was a brief period in the early 2010s where it seemed like she had no luck getting involved with good roles or good movies. But now she's possibly in the most productive and challenging portion of her career, and it couldn't have come at a better time to boot.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Jan 25, 2020 16:16:24 GMT
Nice pick. Kidman loves playing strong willed, independent women based on real life people. I personally loved Queen of the Desert and think its a worthy entry into this portrait gallery. Whilst the film got criticism for not exploring in more narrative detail the political impact that Gertrude Bell had in the Middle East, I thought it worked as the spiritual journey of an independent minded women who was trying to break free from the bonds of the British Empire and discover wisdom through contact (understanding and experience) with the other. It's an esoteric film that I need to think about more, but I have the impression that Kidman understood what Herzog was trying to achieve with this film. which will happen when you make bat-shit crazy films like Bad Lieutenant: Port Of Call New Orleans.Ain’t no Iguana!
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Post by stephen on Jan 25, 2020 16:27:12 GMT
Nice pick. Kidman loves playing strong willed, independent women based on real life people. I personally loved Queen of the Desert and think its a worthy entry into this portrait gallery. Whilst the film got criticism for not exploring in more narrative detail the political impact that Gertrude Bell had in the Middle East, I thought it worked as the spiritual journey of an independent minded women who was trying to break free from the bonds of the British Empire and discover wisdom through contact (understanding and experience) with the other. It's an esoteric film that I need to think about more, but I have the impression that Kidman understood what Herzog was trying to achieve with this film. Yes, Queen Of The Desert was another highly underrated performance. To be fair Kidman was probably the most praised aspect of the film (as she often is, even in panned movies). It's a film I'll have to revisit again, because whilst I didn't love it and there were some script and pacing problems, I think it was definitely far better than reviews indicated. I think critics were maybe caught offguard by Herzog making something so seemingly earnest and conventional with a female protagonist. He kind of confounded expectations with that one....which will happen when you make bat-shit crazy films like Bad Lieutenant: Port Of Call New Orleans.No one's a bigger Herzog fan than I am on this board, but yeah, I'd definitely rate Queen of the Desert at the bottom of Werner's filmography, simply because of how pedestrian it is. It's well-shot and I don't really have any personal qualms with Kidman in it (except when she has to convince us she's a teenager at the start, come on), but when you're operating at such a peak for so long and you crank out something so conventional, it boggles the mind because it's a story with a lot of great potential for Herzogian flair and he just didn't go there. I'd like to see Kidman reteam with Herzog, but in something more vibrant.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 27, 2020 1:35:07 GMT
Yes, Queen Of The Desert was another highly underrated performance. To be fair Kidman was probably the most praised aspect of the film (as she often is, even in panned movies). It's a film I'll have to revisit again, because whilst I didn't love it and there were some script and pacing problems, I think it was definitely far better than reviews indicated. I think critics were maybe caught offguard by Herzog making something so seemingly earnest and conventional with a female protagonist. He kind of confounded expectations with that one....which will happen when you make bat-shit crazy films like Bad Lieutenant: Port Of Call New Orleans.I'd like to see Kidman reteam with Herzog, but in something more vibrant. I'd actually agree with this. Kidman is an actress that could deal with Herzog's more extreme tendencies and deliver on them, so it'd be interesting to see them have a do-over in a film where he plays more to his usual traits.
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Post by hugobolso on Feb 12, 2020 4:21:38 GMT
June Allyson Genre: The Girl Next Door Nickname the town cryer She was the girl next door, and the cryingmaker. She was one of the top MGM values for a decade, and then she dissapear when the studio system collapsed, and was too old for portraying nymphets.- She was a favourite of musicals even when she wasn't the best dancer or singer. She quoted " I have big teeth. I lisp. My eyes disappear when I smile. My voice is funny. I don't sing like Judy Garland. I don't dance like Cyd Charisse. But women identify with me. And while men desire Cyd Charisse, they'd take me home to meet Mom." Probably her most remembered film is little Women. many people don't like her as Jo, but for others she was the best Jo ever made. Because she fun and had that smile. Her film debut in 1943 was highly succesful, the next year she had her own personal big hit two sisters and a sailor with Van Johnson. Despite her success, and maybe because her good girl luck, was billed after Lana Turner and Hedy Lamarr.- Any way, between 1949 to 1955 was probably the number one box office draw.- In 1955 had her last two big office successes opposite Alan Ladd and Jimmy Stewart, none would thought that only 4 years later she retired from the screen, after flops of remakes vehicles (To be fair, she continue acting in stage and on tv, and on 3 films, none of them succesful, in very supporting roles) In her late years she was the face of the Depends commercial, commercials for adult incontinence products. She was as delightful selling undergaments, like she was in her MGM good times, she was also one of the favourite interviewers of Larry King.- Any way her best contribution for US history was (along with his husband Dick Powell) too convert Ronald Reagan from Democrat to the Republican.-
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 19, 2020 12:55:41 GMT
George C Scott
Genre: Drama
Scott Rudin, one of the most acclaimed and succesful film and theatre producers in history once said that he considered the three Greatest American actors ever to be Marlon Brando, Denzel Washington.....and George C Scott.
Brando's reputation still holds quite firm today. Washington is still at the peak of his abilities in his era and currently doing dominant work on stage and screen. George C. Scott, while not exactly obscure to people steeped in film history is no longer quite as celebrated as he was in his prime. Perhaps because while a superb actor, he wasn't quite the superstar movie star leading man that Brando was or Washington is. Perhaps because he eventually settled into B-movies and TV level projects, before TV was ever considered a good career move for an actor. His film peak was relatively short, and unlike Brando who came back in the 70's after a disappointing 60's, Scott didn't have a second act in his film career
He often superbly played second fiddle to chiseled leading men like Paul Newman in The Hustler (where Scott earned a supporting actor Oscar nomination). Perhaps Scott's closest antecedent was the late Philip Seymour Hoffman. But for a period in the 1960's and the early 1970's, Scott was considered by many to be the only serious rival to Brando for the title of America's greatest living actor.
Scott was a classically trained actor. He had the bullish and burly face and physique of someone like Gene Hackman, which made him perfect for heavies, but his range prevented him from being typecast. He did Shakespeare on stage early in his career, and had a big film breakthrough with Anatomy Of A Murder, for which he recieved his first Academy Award nomination. He played mostly in drama. Scott's combination of stage and screen work in the 1960's propelled his reputation to great heights, and culminated in the key role of his career in Patton in 1970, a biopic of the American military General. Scott won the Oscar for Best Actor, but famously declined it as he did not believe in competition for actors. He recieved one more follow-up nomination for The Hospital in 1971 , but his film career effectively fell into irreversible decline after that.
Below, Scott in Patton.
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Post by fiosnasiob on Feb 19, 2020 18:16:12 GMT
Rudin, a man of good taste. Big fan of George C Scott, the presence, the intensity, the voice, he's one of the most "powerful" actors. I champion his perf in The Hospital every times I can, it's amongs the best of the 70's, same with Patton obviously. Hardcore is probably my favorite film of his late career, I like it more than most. Love the duo he's forming with the great Joanne Woodward in They Might Be Giants.
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 19, 2020 18:42:05 GMT
Rudin, a man of good taste. Big fan of George C Scott, the presence, the intensity, the voice, he's one of the most "powerful" actors. I champion his perf in The Hospital every times I can, it's amongs the best of the 70's, same with Patton obviously. Hardcore is probably my favorite film of his late career, I like it more than most. Love the duo he's forming with the great Joanne Woodward in They Might Be Giants. I have a soft spot for Scott in Taps. It's a minor movie, but it's interesting to see Scott against young future stars like Tom Cruise and Sean Penn. He mostly did TV movies after that film.
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