New Jarmsuch is out and we don't even have a thread for it? (Well, perhaps there's a good reason for that...)
Finally went and saw this today after five days of failing to get someone to go with me. Ignored all of the lukewarm/negative buzz this got because I love Jarmusch and the cast, and the trailers looked awesome. Really liked this for the first 30 to 40 minutes as your typical charming Jarmuschian ensemble comedy ... but it gets increasingly exhausting as it goes along, and then gets outright annoying up until it ends with a Tom Waits monologue that directly explains the film's super-obvious attempted metaphor directly to the audience. Yikes
Jarmusch tries B-movie, Jasmuch tries meta, Jarmusch tries politics ... and whiffs on all of it. Has a lot of funny bits but perhaps just as many awkwardly-missed comedic beats and random off-color lines/moments.
Surely the disappointment of the year.
Last Edit: Jun 19, 2019 20:25:51 GMT by DeepArcher
Oh, come, come be my waitress and serve me tonight
Maybe it's because I went in with low expectations knowing that it might not be for me from what I read about it beforehand, but then I did end up really enjoying it.
I can see why most won't though, and it was definitely very clear in my audience that it was not for everyone. The theater was almost full because it was the special advanced screening that AMC did, and I think that most people were expecting something different from the trailer because only about a third of the theater consistently laughed. Luckily I was in that third that enjoyed it though.
I could have used more Tilda Swinton, Adam Driver, and Bill Murray, and less of some of the other characters like the teens in the detention center especially since they just
. I did enjoy the other young people storyline even though that was almost equally as pointless just because I'm from Ohio, so the Cleveland hipsters thing made that whole subplot worth it.
I don't know if I'll revisit the whole film because it feels so slight, and it's pretty slow for the most part, but if someone just did a compilation of the meta scenes, or just the scenes that Adam Driver and Bill Murray were in, I'd definitely watch that a lot.
This was a real mixed bag. On the one hand, Bill Murray and Adam Driver are great together and everything involving Tilda Swinton was gold. A lot of the humor worked well. There's a great meta joke with Adam Driver. The rest of the cast are effective as well.
That said, the political satire was really clunky and heavy handed. Sure, there's a lot about the Trump era worth satirizing, but having Steve Buscemi wear a red cap that says "Keep America White Again" and having the zombies be the result of fracking is too on-the-nose. The George Romero zombie movies had a fair amount of socio-political subtext, but this is just text.
Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Jul 14, 2019 18:43:08 GMT
This was really great. It's very funny, but not in a belly laugh sort of way. It's a more gentle sort of humour. It's sometimes subtle, it's sometimes sardonic, it's often silly and it always worked for me. The best thing about this film is it's array of characters, who are thankfully given some time to grow and breathe in the first act, while the plot (silly as it is) is slowly introduced into the film. The characters are also thankfully not stupid idiots, as is often the case in similar films.
In terms of the film as an entry into the zombie genre, I can't say that it adds anything to it, but it plays with it artfully and in a meta way that works for the most part. It isn't without its small flaws, and some of the characters are superfluous to the point that they were basically forgotten about.
Ultimately though, this is a film that in a strange way is full of warmth and a love for people. 8.5/10
So Jarmusch totally made it just for his own amusement, didn't he? Actually 'amusing' is precisely how I would describe the whole endeavor - I didn't catch myself laughing, I didn't even really smile that much but I did find it to be consistently...amusing. Driver/Murray/Sevigny is a pretty excellent comedic team and I'm glad Jarmusch realized that few things are as amusing (sorry) as Bill Murray's none-face. I enjoyed the meta-jokes too. The movie did feel undercooked and was certainly far from Jarmusch's best work but I don't regret spending 100 minutes in the company of these individuals.
The blatant social commentary (literally read out off screen) was a bit disappointing though.
No shot, this is not a disappointment of the year. It is beyond me that this film got so many dislikes & I fully understand that everyone has their own taste in film. Driver/Murray were a perfect duo in this film. Even the supporting cast with Glover/Waits was a real treat. It is one of the better films I saw in a long while. Slow moving though funny.
overt-consumerism is....bad. Thanks Jim, other zombie movie have done this before. some of the meta jokes worked is almost impossible because they induce a groan from me. So that fact gives this like a 5.5/10, cast is fine