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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 15, 2019 22:08:57 GMT
Scorsese (I think?) is the director who has worked with the most of our GOAT (male) actors list - in fact all our top 5 except Brando who of course has passed away (though he did work with Newman our number 9!). So thinking he's nearing the end of a glorious career which one of these big time actors would you most like to see him direct? Limited it to 5 since these seem the most still in the game and are from our list and...............can only pick one My first poll ........be gentle.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jun 15, 2019 22:38:40 GMT
What do you mean, we can only pick one? You play dirty!
I chose Gary Oldman but I could definitely see all 5 of them working with Marty.
Maybe not Hanks that much. I mean, he's worked a whole lot with Spielberg and I consider Steven to be very much alike with Scorsese. Iconic directors of the same caliber, peers and two of my favorite auteurs ever. So I don't think Hanks would give anything really different in a collaboration with Marty that we haven't already seen in his Spielberg films.
But Oldman or Denzel? That would be something!!!
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Post by Mattsby on Jun 15, 2019 23:08:11 GMT
For the William Hale part in Flower Moon, I've said Penn in the past (side note - would love for Penn to work with Scorsese too) - but Oldman would be perfect actually. Hale was around 46y/o when the key events happened, comes across a little older ("King of the Osage Hills")... and De Niro who's rumored is too old. Oldman can play up the faux lordly aspect, the simmering contempt and intimidation...
Another name, Depp - who coproduced Hugo but wasn't on screen! Idk what role, hmm... maybe Burnham in Devil in the White City (most would go Hanks there) or if that Teddy Roosevelt biopic happens I'd sooner go Depp than Leo.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jun 15, 2019 23:26:06 GMT
What do you mean, we can only pick one? You play dirty! I chose Gary Oldman but I could definitely see all 5 of them working with Marty. Maybe not Hanks that much. I mean, he's worked a whole lot with Spielberg and I consider Steven to be very much alike with Spielberg. Iconic directors of the same caliber, peers and two of my favorite auteurs ever. So I don't think Hanks would give anything really different in a collaboration with Marty that we haven't already seen in his Spielberg films. But Oldman or Denzel? That would be something!!! oldman? british gangster is not marty's strong suit, denzel is too "denzel" for Marty, He can't find the right leading character for old good denzel, Malcolm X part 2? hell no, I can't see him playing in marty's film, sorry. Well, he did American Gangster, didn't he? Scorsese has tried a lot of different genres and Denzel has done the same. I'm sure they'd figure it out.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jun 15, 2019 23:34:53 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 23, 2019 21:33:13 GMT
Interesting that Oldman won this - a UK actor picked for the most American of directors. I would have thought initially this was Phoenix's poll to win since he's still in his peak years, DiCaprio's "rival", an American (particularly with the many old dudes in The Irishman).
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Post by pupdurcs on Jun 23, 2019 21:54:53 GMT
Interesting that Oldman won this - a UK actor picked for the most American of directors. I would have thought initially this was Phoenix's poll to win since he's still in his peak years, DiCaprio's "rival", an American (particularly with the many old dudes in The Irishman). All polls here are pretty statistically insignificant, so there's no point in reading too much into any of them. You rarely get more than 45 people voting in any given poll (and those are in the bigger polls here). Sample size is pretty meaningless, and reflects how small and easily skewed a community this is. Oldman could get the least votes in a bigger sample size of voters on a different platform. Polls here are a fun diversion, but nothing more. I tend to value polls more on platforms like Twitter, if only because the pure numbers voting are so much higher (sometimes in the thousands). I don't even put much stock in Nicole Kidman winning the Greatest Australian Actress thread by a wide margin. Just not enough voters. And I root for Kidman. It's why I sometimes say votes in the "real world" often would go completely differently. And not even just the "real world", but a better populated platform.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 23, 2019 22:28:15 GMT
Interesting that Oldman won this - a UK actor picked for the most American of directors. I would have thought initially this was Phoenix's poll to win since he's still in his peak years, DiCaprio's "rival", an American (particularly with the many old dudes in The Irishman). It's why I sometimes say votes in the "real world" often would go completely differently. And not even just the "real world", but a better populated platform. I get that small base size and all - although I'm sort of reconsidering my thoughts on some polls here somewhat - you don't want a poll of the real world because the people here are more well versed and things like that. I mean if I cared what the real world or Twitter thought I'd be living in a world where I liked Madonna instead of Husker Du and I was on Twitter - and I don't think really anybody wants that Phoenix finished highest I think for living actors in our poll (I think?) and he just recently did a Taxi Driver-ish role and things like that, so I would have thought his cult would have come out but yeah, there might not be overlap, lower base, less urgency to vote.......
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Post by pupdurcs on Jun 23, 2019 22:41:02 GMT
I disagree about Twitter. Certain sections Twitter are very educated about film, and will deliver valid results, with a much greater sample size. For example, Guy Lodge (film critic) is currently running a "world cup poll" to find the greatest Meryl Streep performance, and the audience that votes on his polls knows their film. There are thousands of knowledgable cinephiles on the platform.He ran a similar poll for Nicole Kidman, and you had people like Barry Jenkins voting on it. I'm looking forward to the results of his Streep poll, and I'm confident the voters will make a credible pick.
Just depends where you look, but plenty of polls on other platforms have people who know enough about film not to be dismissed, and a far wider sample (including in the real world, in things like You.Gov or the Harris Poll). The same 30 people here just voting on everything really tells us nothing but what those particular 30 people like, and arguably actually begins to become a negative and skewed perspective. So it's fun and a way to pass the time, but nothing to take very seriously.
Phoneix lost by 1 vote to Oldman in a poll with less than 30 voters. It's not even worth analysing on any level. Even Denzel being 3 votes behind Oldman here statistically means almost less than nothing.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 24, 2019 15:48:17 GMT
I disagree about Twitter. Certain sections Twitter are very educated about film, and will deliver valid results, with a much greater sample size. For example, Guy Lodge (film critic) is currently running a "world cup poll" to find the greatest Meryl Streep performance, and the audience that votes on his polls knows their film. There are thousands of knowledgable cinephiles on the platform.He ran a similar poll for Nicole Kidman, and you had people like Barry Jenkins voting on it. I'm looking forward to the results of his Streep poll, and I'm confident the voters will make a credible pick. Well I don't know if we've ever discussed this but this is what I do - in a roundabout way at least for a living - statistical analysis and data aggregating (it's as exciting as it sounds, lol) and you know all of that is out the window in a sense in a subjective poll - ie Barry Jenkins is just one POV/vote and he's not an indicator of an outcome either - ie there aren't 10,000 Barry Jenkins who feel the same exact ways as him etc and the Harris poll maybe can skew closer in an objective poll - ie in a political selection poll but not a poll on opinion as much - it's still just an opinion after all. I guess the thing that makes the polls here a little different is I feel I know (on some level) some users so if we did that poll on Streep's performance and someone says "She-Devil" in the comments section you can reply, get more info, then your relationship with that person has a context for future such discussions as well. I guess I just like that better though the small base is a definite downside a little bigger base would go a long way - big enough to matter yet still small enough to "know the board" - tbh the term "thousands of knowledgable cinephiles" scares me/baffles me......
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Post by Good God on Jun 24, 2019 17:18:09 GMT
Of those, Phoenix. But I can't really imagine Scorsese approaching Phoenix when he has DiCaprio right there, ready to work for him. Maybe if there were two roles, like in The Departed, but those are few and far between. And how many more movies does Scorsese have left, anyway? He's nearly 77 and he averages a new movie every 3 years. I think he has like 3 more movies after The Irishman, if we're fortunate.
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Post by futuretrunks on May 18, 2020 23:25:22 GMT
The Goose.
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Post by wallsofjericho on May 19, 2020 14:47:30 GMT
I think Bridges would be interesting.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on May 19, 2020 16:24:47 GMT
I think Bridges would be interesting. Did you know that Bridges was considered for the part of Travis Bickle?
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Post by HELENA MARIA on May 19, 2020 16:25:11 GMT
Denzel
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Post by wallsofjericho on May 19, 2020 16:29:03 GMT
I think Bridges would be interesting. Did you know that Bridges was considered for the part of Travis Bickle? He also sought a part in Scorsese's Last Temptation of Christ but he didn't get it. Apparently he called Scorsese up personally. I'm surprised an actor as great as Bridges still hasn't been in a Tarantino film.
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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 1, 2021 20:29:22 GMT
Bump. I still think Gosling. I think Scorsese would really feed off of his energy.
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Post by speeders on Feb 1, 2021 20:35:53 GMT
Gosling 100%
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Post by hugobolso on Feb 4, 2021 23:10:34 GMT
From this 5 Phoenix, or Denzel in a non-Scorcese typical movie (after all he also made the last temptation of Christ, Age of Innocense and Hugo).- The Oldman,then Bridges and Finally Hanks.
For an actor that I want to work with Scorsese not idea.- I think Kim Rossi Stuart could be a good mafia guy,and Daniel Brühl could be a german/spanish replacement for Di Caprio.- Maybe Oscar Isaac.-
But because Scorcese loves Italy I gues Rossi Stuart, if he was younger for a leading role, but still he is age for a co-lead or supporting one.-
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Post by franklin on Feb 5, 2021 1:54:34 GMT
Actors/Actresses who aren't in the poll but i would love to appear in a Scorsese picture:
Edward Norton Christian Bale Ryan Gosling Daniel Craig Robert Pattinson Nicole Kidman Scarlett Johansson Natalie Portman
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Post by jakesully on Feb 5, 2021 12:03:11 GMT
I'd kill for a Scorsese film starring Dicaprio, Phoenix and Bale. The 3 greatest actors of their generation (and I believe they were all born in 1974) . May the best man win.
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Post by stabcaesar on Feb 5, 2021 15:38:26 GMT
Honestly? Meryl Streep.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Feb 5, 2021 16:35:16 GMT
Not sure why Denzel's on the list. He's never going to work with Scorsese..From that list will probably be Joaquin Phoenix. The next time Scorsese has a high profile role for a black actor would be the first time.
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Post by stephen on Feb 5, 2021 16:38:23 GMT
Not sure why Denzel's on the list. He's never going to work with Scorsese..From that list will probably be Joaquin Phoenix. The next time Scorsese has a high profile role for a black actor would be the first time. To be fair, most of these guys likely won't work with Scorsese because he keeps reusing the same people for 90% of his films.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Feb 5, 2021 16:43:32 GMT
Not sure why Denzel's on the list. He's never going to work with Scorsese..From that list will probably be Joaquin Phoenix. The next time Scorsese has a high profile role for a black actor would be the first time. To be fair, most of these guys likely won't work with Scorsese because he keeps reusing the same people for 90% of his films. True..Dicaprio has Scorsese's next 3 or 4 films (or however many more Scorsese's going to do in his career) circled. It is what it is..anything else is a pipe dream..The Iceman Cometh style.
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