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Post by Viced on Jun 11, 2019 22:16:51 GMT
I watched J.T. Walsh in a couple of movies last week (Red Rock West and Blue Chips) and was thinking... mannnn this guy would have kicked some serious ass in Peckinpah's '70s movies.
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Post by stephen on Jun 11, 2019 22:27:53 GMT
Marion Cotillard and Rooney Mara would've been incredible silent-era actresses.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 22:30:27 GMT
Been a few films from this decade that I could see Montgomery Clift nailing (The Master and Keyhole especially).
Peter Lorre would be a great fit for some 80s horror.
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Post by Archie on Jun 11, 2019 23:07:35 GMT
Mendelsohn would have killed it in the '70s.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 5:48:48 GMT
Whoever said Oscar Isaac would have owned the erotic thriller boom of the late 80s is right on the money.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jun 12, 2019 15:55:13 GMT
Meryl Streep in the 40s-50s.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 17:08:48 GMT
Charlize Theron as a Golden Age leading lady, akin to Ava Gardner - I think she'd be an even bigger star in this era than she is now, as her beauty and glamour would never be separated from her art as they so often are now.
I could see Drew Barrymore filling a Doris Day or Debbie Reynolds kind of niche in the 50s and 60s, as well.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 12, 2019 17:46:34 GMT
Dan Duryea would have been a marvelous bad guy in any era in any genre - in modern times he'd be the corporate jerk you don't want the girl to pick in romantic comedies......the creepy neighhbor who is stalking the girl in thrillers....... the guy getting conned in indie neo-noirs but more likely the guy doing the conning.....
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Post by fiosnasiob on Jun 12, 2019 18:14:49 GMT
Charlize Theron as a Golden Age leading lady, akin to Ava Gardner - I think she'd be an even bigger star in this era than she is now, as her beauty and glamour would never be separated from her art as they so often are now. I could see Drew Barrymore filling a Doris Day or Debbie Reynolds kind of niche in the 50s and 60s, as well. But that deglam and the fact that Theron isn't affraid to throw it all away is also what make her so interesting. There would be no Monster (one of the most acclaimed and loved oscar winning performances) or Furiosa (an already iconic role) for her during the Golden Age and I don't know what "bigger" things she could have done during that era than these 2 brillant roles. And I don't think being a blonde Ava Gardner is what she want or ever wanted to be.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 12, 2019 18:34:16 GMT
Irene Dunne would have been a huge 80s rom-com star - like Meg Ryan but actually funny.......and not annoying (oh it's true) - if you ever watch her in this genre she excels obviously and she's also sexy in a contemporary way too (again, unlike that 14 year Swedish boy Meg Ryan, ummmmmm) she always kind of seems like a nice girl who maybe is a little tired of being so nice.
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Post by cherry68 on Jun 12, 2019 18:41:56 GMT
Monica Bellucci could have easily been a 50s / 60s diva.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jun 12, 2019 19:01:00 GMT
Charlize Theron as a Golden Age leading lady, akin to Ava Gardner - I think she'd be an even bigger star in this era than she is now, as her beauty and glamour would never be separated from her art as they so often are now. I could see Drew Barrymore filling a Doris Day or Debbie Reynolds kind of niche in the 50s and 60s, as well. But that deglam and the fact that Theron isn't affraid to throw it all away is also what make her so interesting. There would be no Monster (one of the most acclaimed and loved oscar winning performances) or Furiosa (an already iconic role) for her during the Golden Age and I don't know what "bigger" things she could have done during that era than these 2 brillant roles. And I don't think being a blonde Ava Gardner is what she want or ever wanted to be. You are actually correct. Theron is usually at her least interesting when playing to her glamour, femininity or looks. She's done it a bunch of times (Sweet November, Head In The Clouds, Mighty Joe Young etc) and it's always been forgettable. Theron has a classically glamrous Hollywoood look, but is at her best projecting a cynical or masculine energy. Her looks actually aren't compatible with what she's best at doing. But it got her into the industry. Someone like Catherine Zeta-Jones would have been very big in the 40's and 50's. She excells playing up to her glamour.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 19:23:16 GMT
pupdurcs fiosnasiob - What you guys are saying is beside the point of this thread - I mean, most of the great beauties of Golden Hollywood could do other things besides play up their glamour, but they were confined by that era's expectations of them. I'm simply saying that Theron is one of the (only?) actresses of today who recalls that same kind of movie star beauty.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jun 12, 2019 20:57:22 GMT
pupdurcs fiosnasiob - What you guys are saying is beside the point of this thread - I mean, most of the great beauties of Golden Hollywood could do other things besides play up their glamour, but they were confined by that era's expectations of them. I'm simply saying that Theron is one of the (only?) actresses of today who recalls that same kind of movie star beauty. She isn't really. Nicole Kidman is seen as an actors actor, but also as someone who could fit right in as a great beauty in the golden age of film (she'd have been a perfect Hitchcock blonde). Kidman has delivered great work where her beauty/glamour is absolutely essential to the role (Moulin Rouge most notably). As I said Catherine Zeta-Jones as well. Angelina Jolie. They can be interesting and glamarous at the same time, and would all be better fits in the golden age. Theron, less so, imho. I understand the point you are trying to make. I think the point I'm trying to make (and maybe fionasiob as well, but I can't speak for him) is that I don't think Theron's looks alone would have made her a bigger star in that era, if she was as uninteresting in glamarous roles back then as she is in this era. She'd have been lost in a sea of generically beautiful blondes churned out by the studios. There are so many beautiful B and C listers from that era we no longer even talk about or barely recall. I think Theron is the star she is today, because she managed to break out of the confines of her appearance and thus define her star quality. The stuff she's actually really good at (Monster, Furiosa etc) would have been denied her in that era, and she'd just be an another bland blonde with dozens of other equally pretty women for competition. She could have been a star back then based on appearence, but that era did not actually suit Theron's acting gifts.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jun 13, 2019 10:29:06 GMT
Gene Wilder could have been one of MCU actors As the Hulk maybe...
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jun 13, 2019 11:39:30 GMT
Catherine Zeta-Jones 40's/50's
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Jun 13, 2019 11:41:57 GMT
Gene Wilder could have been one of MCU actors Gene Wilder could make anything better in any era.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Jun 13, 2019 11:45:29 GMT
I could imagine Michael Shannon as a 1940s / 1950s movie heavy. I could also imagine Marisa Tomei as femme fatale in the same era.
Julie Walters could have been a comedic heavyweight at any time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 12:40:49 GMT
Julie Walters could have been a comedic heavyweight at any time. Yes! Her performance in Brooklyn would surely have been nominated had it been given in the 50s.
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Post by thomasjerome on Jun 13, 2019 12:55:12 GMT
I can see Eva Green being maybe even a bigger star in 40s and 50s with her style and exotic looks.
It's also not hard to imagine Amber Heard as a Hitchcock blonde.
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Post by demille on Jun 13, 2019 13:17:23 GMT
Nicole Kidman in the 1930s. I think she would have worked well in the star system.
I could see her in a sophiticated comedy by Ernst Lubitsch, a woman's drama by Clarence Brown, a romantic comedy by George Cukor, and an exotic melodrama by George Fitzmaurice.... and maybe even a Max Ophuls romance/tragedy.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Jun 14, 2019 0:37:10 GMT
But that deglam and the fact that Theron isn't affraid to throw it all away is also what make her so interesting. There would be no Monster (one of the most acclaimed and loved oscar winning performances) or Furiosa (an already iconic role) for her during the Golden Age and I don't know what "bigger" things she could have done during that era than these 2 brillant roles. And I don't think being a blonde Ava Gardner is what she want or ever wanted to be. You are actually correct. Theron is usually at her least interesting when playing to her glamour, femininity or looks. She's done it a bunch of times (Sweet November, Head In The Clouds, Mighty Joe Young etc) and it's always been forgettable. Theron has a classically glamrous Hollywoood look, but is at her best projecting a cynical or masculine energy. Her looks actually aren't compatible with what she's best at doing. But it got her into the industry. Someone like Catherine Zeta-Jones would have been very big in the 40's and 50's. She excells playing up to her glamour. Eh, but those films where Theron was meant to be glamorous all happen to not be good films and roles. That doesn't mean if you put her in a complex role in a truly great film where she can still have some glamour that she wouldn't be great. I always think Faye Dunaway's part in Chinatown is the perfect example of a complex part that allows the actress to be glamourous.
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