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Post by stephen on Oct 12, 2021 17:02:32 GMT
Hmmmm. So none of those earlier announced actors are in it?? Hathaway and Strong don't fill me with excitement, especially in comparison to whom they are replacing, but Hopkins is a nice get.
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Post by mhynson27 on Oct 12, 2021 20:19:23 GMT
There's no mention anywhere in the original Deadline article of all the original actors being scrapped. Where did you find that? They were all still listed in that production notice thing that went out recently, including both Hathaway and Hopkins.
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Post by Mattsby on Oct 12, 2021 20:27:40 GMT
There's no mention anywhere in the original Deadline article of all the original actors being scrapped. Where did you find that? They were all still listed in that production notice thing that went out recently, including both Hathaway and Hopkins. The Wrap ...are they even trustworthy?
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Post by mhynson27 on Oct 12, 2021 21:13:10 GMT
There's no mention anywhere in the original Deadline article of all the original actors being scrapped. Where did you find that? They were all still listed in that production notice thing that went out recently, including both Hathaway and Hopkins. The Wrap ...are they even trustworthy? I feel like they usually are, but it kind of feels like they dropped the ball on this one.
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Post by Mattsby on Oct 12, 2021 21:28:59 GMT
The Wrap ...are they even trustworthy? I feel like they usually are, but it kind of feels like they dropped the ball on this one. Yeah and I think Gray somewhat recently suggested Blanchett was confirmed and that she has like a one-scene role. Strong prob replaced Isaac, and Hopkins either Sutherland or De Niro (who just started filming the Maniscalco comedy).
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Post by Mattsby on Oct 29, 2021 22:08:17 GMT
Hopkins filming a few days ago. Looks like it's the grandfather role! which I assume initially was gonna be De Niro. Did they leap over Pacino? This was a total CAA package at first, but they went to outside agencies for Hopkins and Jeremy Strong etc.
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Post by speeders on Oct 30, 2021 21:26:41 GMT
Hopkins filming a few days ago. Looks like it's the grandfather role! which I assume initially was gonna be De Niro. Did they leap over Pacino? This was a total CAA package at first, but they went to outside agencies for Hopkins and Jeremy Strong etc. Really digging these set photos though obviously they say nothing about the quality of the finished product. I suspect it's Sutherland he replaced, not De Niro.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on May 24, 2022 4:12:24 GMT
James Gray's argument on theatrical vs. streaming, theater-going no longer being a habitual practice among the general public as a result of the homogenization of the industry, the fading of the cultural importance of cinema... all in under 3 minutes.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on May 24, 2022 4:41:45 GMT
I mean, we *did* also live through a *pandemic*
EDIT: In all seriousness, aside from the mention of Batman Returns (I’m sorry, I’m so not a fan of that movie), he makes intriguing arguments, but I also feel like it’s a bit naive in a way. I don’t think the return of the art movie’s success is something you can “force” back into being popular, just because audiences have become so picky, because brand recognition (while an admitted and lazy fallback) makes them feel more comfortable, but also, we may not have the wallet for it sometimes.
People struggle financially. I’m one of those who struggle. Some of us can’t AFFORD to seek out these movies. Hell, if I didn’t have my AMC A-List, I wouldn’t even be able to see most of the movies I do. It’s why I dropped off of movies for a couple years, simply because I couldn’t keep up with it, and mange to stay afloat. And fine, the irony that the same capitalism we feed is also the one fucking us over is not lost on me, but I don’t think there’s an “easy” fix just yet.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on May 24, 2022 5:28:08 GMT
I mean, we *did* also live through a *pandemic* I don’t think the return of the art movie’s success is something you can “force” back into being popular, just because audiences have become so picky, because brand recognition (while an admitted and lazy fallback) makes them feel more comfortable I think Gray, like a lot of people, would probably say that the pandemic just accelerated what was already inevitable in terms of the shift in audience viewing habits. But yeah, it's been a slow and steady process of conditioning the general public to only step into a theater for certain types of movies, so it might be a fool's errand to try to get people to "unlearn" that and be willing to leave the comfort of their home and go to the theater for other films where they don't already know exactly what they're going to get and are uncertain if it will be a waste of their time and money. Could be a case of not being able to put the toothpaste back in the tube.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on May 24, 2022 12:35:32 GMT
James Gray's argument on theatrical vs. streaming, theater-going no longer being a habitual practice among the general public as a result of the homogenization of the industry, the fading of the cultural importance of cinema... all in under 3 minutes. It was pointed out he made the same statement in 2019 and used Avatar as his example of an unquotable movie.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on May 24, 2022 20:05:38 GMT
James Gray's argument on theatrical vs. streaming, theater-going no longer being a habitual practice among the general public as a result of the homogenization of the industry, the fading of the cultural importance of cinema... all in under 3 minutes. It was pointed out he made the same statement in 2019 and used Avatar as his example of an unquotable movie. "I SEE YOU" How could Gray forget that immortal line???
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Post by futuretrunks on May 24, 2022 23:59:03 GMT
Gray is a funny guy, and I'll always appreciate Two Lovers, but is he suggesting he's written many memorable lines or something? The word "unobtanium" is more memorable than any dialogue in Ad Astra. Dude needs to check himself. Gray's a case study in being gifted but lacking ambition or the clear-sightedness to follow through on it. He can't grasp that "great film".
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Post by stephen on May 25, 2022 0:06:02 GMT
Gray is a funny guy, and I'll always appreciate Two Lovers, but is he suggesting he's written many memorable lines or something? The word "unobtanium" is more memorable than any dialogue in Ad Astra. Dude needs to check himself. Gray's a case study in being gifted but lacking ambition or the clear-sightedness to follow through on it. He can't grasp that "great film". 1. James Cameron did not invent the term "unobtainium." 2. The memorability of "unobtainium" as it pertains to Avatar is considered a negative, as critics point to the lack of imagination and placeholder feel of the name. 3. Gray isn't saying anything about the quality of his own films. What he's saying is that the major films that are being bankrolled and promoted heavily by studios feel designed by an algorithm and have very little lasting cultural impact, and that without studios taking risks on smaller films that might engender cultural cache over time, the artform is at a deficit because it's all about numbers.
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Post by futuretrunks on May 25, 2022 1:20:11 GMT
Gray is a funny guy, and I'll always appreciate Two Lovers, but is he suggesting he's written many memorable lines or something? The word "unobtanium" is more memorable than any dialogue in Ad Astra. Dude needs to check himself. Gray's a case study in being gifted but lacking ambition or the clear-sightedness to follow through on it. He can't grasp that "great film". 1. James Cameron did not invent the term "unobtainium." 2. The memorability of "unobtainium" as it pertains to Avatar is considered a negative, as critics point to the lack of imagination and placeholder feel of the name. 3. Gray isn't saying anything about the quality of his own films. What he's saying is that the major films that are being bankrolled and promoted heavily by studios feel designed by an algorithm and have very little lasting cultural impact, and that without studios taking risks on smaller films that might engender cultural cache over time, the artform is at a deficit because it's all about numbers. Gray not saying anything about the quality of his own films is the problem. You don't make a film like The Immigrant if you've seen The Godfather Part II and have any balls or sense. I don't disagree with his take on the studios.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on May 25, 2022 4:52:54 GMT
Gray is a funny guy, and I'll always appreciate Two Lovers, but is he suggesting he's written many memorable lines or something? The word "unobtanium" is more memorable than any dialogue in Ad Astra. Dude needs to check himself. Gray's a case study in being gifted but lacking ambition or the clear-sightedness to follow through on it. He can't grasp that "great film". 3. Gray isn't saying anything about the quality of his own films. What he's saying is that the major films that are being bankrolled and promoted heavily by studios feel designed by an algorithm and have very little lasting cultural impact, and that without studios taking risks on smaller films that might engender cultural cache over time, the artform is at a deficit because it's all about numbers. I don't think that's quite what Gray is saying. He may certainly believe that, but what he says just in that clip is more multifaceted, and describes a kind of ripple effect where the short-lived cultural impact of movies in general (not just comic book films) is a result of the diminishing cultural importance of movies in general, which in turn is a result of a large segment of the population not going to the theater as often and sharing in the same experience of movies currently defining the culture in that moment (as opposed to the glut of content available to watch on streaming services)....... and that large segment of people no longer being in the habit of theater-going was what happened as a result of one type of film dominating the market. So I think his point is more broadly about the fading of movie culture than the memorability of any given type of movie. Gray not saying anything about the quality of his own films is the problem. You don't make a film like The Immigrant if you've seen The Godfather Part II and have any balls or sense. I don't disagree with his take on the studios. Gray doesn't even talk about the quality of other movies being a problem, so why should he be obliged to talk about his own? As I say above, I think his point is less about quality of specific kinds of movies than it is about movie culture more generally.
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Post by JangoB on Sept 6, 2022 15:12:15 GMT
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Post by JangoB on Sept 6, 2022 15:17:34 GMT
lol, this trailer has one of my big trailer pet peeves - it's when they put in 4-star ratings from British publications to (presumably) confuse the US audiences who are used to 4 stars being the perfect score when in fact it's 4 stars out of 5 They're like: 'Hey, listen, we ain't selling a masterpiece here but B is still a decent enough score, right?'
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Post by stabcaesar on Sept 6, 2022 17:26:07 GMT
That trailer ... is bad. It's sooooo heavy-handed.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Sept 6, 2022 19:14:28 GMT
Looks good
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