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Post by pacinoyes on May 19, 2019 8:32:25 GMT
Apologies - it was meant to be very insulting to the user - not Australia - which is why the comments were written in a ridiculous manner. Hopefully you'll engage on discussion on this board with plenty of other topics. I have several other posts in this thread on this topic actually and feel free to discuss those if you would like of course.
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Post by Sarah on May 19, 2019 8:46:25 GMT
Toni Collette.
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Post by pupdurcs on May 19, 2019 12:17:23 GMT
Apologies - it was meant to be very insulting to the user - not Australia - which is why the comments were written in a ridiculous manner. Hopefully you'll engage on discussion on this board with plenty of other topics. I have several other posts in this thread on this topic actually and feel free to discuss those if you would like of course. I didn't find it insulting to me. Just typically tacky behaviour from you.You were banging on about "Kangarooland" or whatever long before that post. It's just who you are. And your "humour" has always been questionable. At times misogynistic & xenophobic, but usually you attempt to decry any one who questions it as "lacking a sense of humour". At least you apologised for it on this occasion. Don't use this thread to score petty points or settle old scores.
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Post by pacinoyes on May 19, 2019 12:26:56 GMT
I'll use this thread to post how I like, about what I like. If you don't like it, don't reply or file a complaint I guess (?) or don't address me, that's fine (?) - however you can't control a thread or others behavior, you control freak fascist You posted something questionable at best, so I asked for a link........... you couldn't provide a link......
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Post by pupdurcs on May 19, 2019 12:41:32 GMT
You are such a baby at times. Act your age. Weren't you the one crying about another poster "trolling" threads you were in to settle scores, yet here you are....
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Post by pupdurcs on May 19, 2019 12:44:06 GMT
Most people reading this thread realise you barely give a shit about Kidman either way. You are expending all this energy because of me
Sad.
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Post by pacinoyes on May 19, 2019 12:51:18 GMT
I have already posted as to who I think is the best, and more importantly, why, I have also posted who is 2nd best, and 3rd best. All I did was ask you to back up your post, which was a very questionable post and you can not apparently and that's too bad. But that's not trolling, that was a legitimate question.
I'm sorry you seem so upset, I'm not sure why, but that's no reason to call me a baby or talk about my age (do you know my age even?) - maybe I shouldn't have called you a fascist but you were kind of being a little too aggressive there.
But ok, no harm, no foul .......
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Post by pupdurcs on May 19, 2019 12:59:55 GMT
You admitted you were trying to be "very insultung" to me to try and get out of hot water for your unfunny and xenophobic rant.
Gee...why would I be upset about that.
The thread had been derailed enough by this buffoonery
Moving on....
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on May 24, 2019 12:50:13 GMT
Kidman
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on May 24, 2019 13:33:55 GMT
I appreciate the hell out of Toni Collette, and I always have; but Nicole Kidman is my answer here. I really do bow down to a lot of her work. At her very best, she has proven herself to be one of the very best.
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Post by pupdurcs on May 24, 2019 23:45:47 GMT
Jesus, this thread is a massacre Kidman has more than twice the votes/mentions of the 2nd place actress. I thought at least Blanchett would run her close in a place like this (Blanchett has cinephile cred, yes. The woman was President of the Cannes jury last year), but she's in a tight battle with her spiritual forebearer Davis for the runner-up placement. Good for Kidman. Even without the ridiculously overwhelming Oscar record of Meryl Streep to bolster her case, her body of work and the sheer respect she commands among cinephiles and filmmakers will put her in a strong spot in the female GOAT conversation for a long time to come. It's quite something when a major auteur like Chris Nolan chooses to describe one of Kidman's recent performances Destroyer as "iconic", like a month after it was released.
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Post by hugobolso on Jun 3, 2019 21:49:56 GMT
1) Judith Anderson the first great aussie actress 2) Jackie Weaver. One of The first great actress with a theatrical, film and TV career in Australia. 3) Judy Davis, the first Australian film Star that, that latet, made a succesful Hollywood crossover. 4) Cate Blanchett the First Trulli Australian Superestar 5) Toni Collett, one of the first not beauty character actress that become an international Star before 30, Nice list. But Kidman needs to be placed between Davis and Blanchett. She paved the way for Australian actresses becoming major stars on the international stage before Blanchett. Kidman transitioned from acclaim in Australia as a tv and film actress, in the 80s and early 90s, to Hollywood superstardom in the 90s. She then received major acclaim as a stage and film actress in the late 90s and early 2000s. Whether you like her or not, she is a very significant Australian actress. I dont consider Kidman or Watts australians. Just aussie born actresses with an aussie career. In chronological order. You cannot understand a Blanchett without a Davis, a Davis without a Weaver. And Andersson das the first great and succesful aussie actores.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jun 3, 2019 23:17:10 GMT
Nice list. But Kidman needs to be placed between Davis and Blanchett. She paved the way for Australian actresses becoming major stars on the international stage before Blanchett. Kidman transitioned from acclaim in Australia as a tv and film actress, in the 80s and early 90s, to Hollywood superstardom in the 90s. She then received major acclaim as a stage and film actress in the late 90s and early 2000s. Whether you like her or not, she is a very significant Australian actress. I dont consider Kidman or Watts australians. Just aussie born actresses with an aussie career. In chronological order. You cannot understand a Blanchett without a Davis, a Davis without a Weaver. And Andersson das the first great and succesful aussie actores. You can make an argument for Watts nationality (which has been done to death, even on this thread), but not Kidman. She was born in Hawaii to Australian parents studying abroad. Her parents moved back to Australia when she was 4, and she lived and was raised there till adulthood. There's no reasonable argument to claim Kidman isn't Australian. She has two Australian parents, Australian citizenship and was raised in Australia since she was a toddler. Is Blanchett less Australian than Kidman? After all, her father was an American serviceman stationed in Australia, and like Kidman, Blanchett also has dual American-Australian citizenship. But one less Australian parent. So if you are in fear of "pure Australians" (whatever that may be), you might want to cancel the half-American Blanchett as well.Kidman's bloodline is more Australian than Blanchett's, if we are going to get into such ridiculous territory.
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Post by hugobolso on Jun 4, 2019 13:42:32 GMT
I dont consider Kidman or Watts australians. Just aussie born actresses with an aussie career. In chronological order. You cannot understand a Blanchett without a Davis, a Davis without a Weaver. And Andersson das the first great and succesful aussie actores. You can make an argument for Watts nationality (which has been done to death, even on this thread), but not Kidman. She was born in Hawaii to Australian parents studying abroad. Her parents moved back to Australia when she was 4, and she lived and was raised there till adulthood. There's no reasonable argument to claim Kidman isn't Australian. She has two Australian parents, Australian citizenship and was raised in Australia since she was a toddler. Is Blanchett less Australian than Kidman? After all, her father was an American serviceman stationed in Australia, and like Kidman, Blanchett also has dual American-Australian citizenship. But one less Australian parent. So if you are in fear of "pure Australians" (whatever that may be), you might want to cancel the half-American Blanchett as well.Kidman's bloodline is more Australian than Blanchett's, if we are going to get into such ridiculous territory. Things are easier for people who dont need a Visa for Work in the US. Any way I use ius soli and not ius sanguinis . Any way the main difference between the ones Ive mentionated and Kidman, is that except Andersson, all had a promising and interestininteresting TV, film and theatrical career in Australia, . To be honest I thought Kidman patente were americana. Kidman leave the island too soon, before she become a Star. OK SHE had interesting roles 4 a young talented Australian beauty. But far behind Collette, Blanchett, Weaver and Davis. ON the other hand is a great Aussie ambassador. But Dead Calm isnt Muriel's Wedding. And she has a better Hollywood career than Weaver (too old) Colette (not beauty enough) or Davis (as one of the trully first she openned more Windows than opportunities in Hollywood. A brilliant career in Australia with a Passage too LA and Uk, but typecast there in wives roles) .
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Post by demille on Jun 4, 2019 14:46:06 GMT
You can make an argument for Watts nationality (which has been done to death, even on this thread), but not Kidman. She was born in Hawaii to Australian parents studying abroad. Her parents moved back to Australia when she was 4, and she lived and was raised there till adulthood. There's no reasonable argument to claim Kidman isn't Australian. She has two Australian parents, Australian citizenship and was raised in Australia since she was a toddler. Is Blanchett less Australian than Kidman? After all, her father was an American serviceman stationed in Australia, and like Kidman, Blanchett also has dual American-Australian citizenship. But one less Australian parent. So if you are in fear of "pure Australians" (whatever that may be), you might want to cancel the half-American Blanchett as well.Kidman's bloodline is more Australian than Blanchett's, if we are going to get into such ridiculous territory. Things are easier for people who dont need a Visa for Work in the US. Any way I use ius soli and not ius sanguinis . Any way the main difference between the ones Ive mentionated and Kidman, is that except Andersson, all had a promising and interestininteresting TV, film and theatrical career in Australia, . To be honest I thought Kidman patente were americana. Kidman leave the island too soon, before she become a Star. OK SHE had interesting roles 4 a young talented Australian beauty. But far behind Collette, Blanchett, Weaver and Davis. ON the other hand is a great Aussie ambassador. But Dead Calm isnt Muriel's Wedding. And she has a better Hollywood career than Weaver (too old) Colette (not beauty enough) or Davis (as one of the trully first she openned more Windows than opportunities in Hollywood. A brilliant career in Australia with a Passage too LA and Uk, but typecast there in wives roles) . This argument is random and confusing. Kidman identifies as Australian and Australia recognises her as an Australian. She was raised in Australia from a young age and she did become a star in Australia before she went to live in the USA and work in Hollywood. Her work in the Australian TV mini-series Vietnam and Bangkok Hilton, along with the film Dead Calm, were major events in Australia and made Kidman a very popular young actress before she moved to America. Just because she didn't need a visa to work in the USA, or because she is too beautiful to fit into the narrative of the other Australian actresses you mentioned above (or whatever it was that you were trying to establish with that lineage at the expense of Kidman), doesn't negate her Australian identity and history.
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Post by hugobolso on Jun 8, 2019 2:59:57 GMT
Things are easier for people who dont need a Visa for Work in the US. Any way I use ius soli and not ius sanguinis . Any way the main difference between the ones Ive mentionated and Kidman, is that except Andersson, all had a promising and interestininteresting TV, film and theatrical career in Australia, . To be honest I thought Kidman patente were americana. Kidman leave the island too soon, before she become a Star. OK SHE had interesting roles 4 a young talented Australian beauty. But far behind Collette, Blanchett, Weaver and Davis. ON the other hand is a great Aussie ambassador. But Dead Calm isnt Muriel's Wedding. And she has a better Hollywood career than Weaver (too old) Colette (not beauty enough) or Davis (as one of the trully first she openned more Windows than opportunities in Hollywood. A brilliant career in Australia with a Passage too LA and Uk, but typecast there in wives roles) . This argument is random and confusing. Kidman identifies as Australian and Australia recognises her as an Australian. She was raised in Australia from a young age and she did become a star in Australia before she went to live in the USA and work in Hollywood. Her work in the Australian TV mini-series Vietnam and Bangkok Hilton, along with the film Dead Calm, were major events in Australia and made Kidman a very popular young actress before she moved to America. Just because she didn't need a visa to work in the USA, or because she is too beautiful to fit into the narrative of the other Australian actresses you mentioned above (or whatever it was that you were trying to establish with that lineage at the expense of Kidman), doesn't negate her Australian identity and history. Agree that is confusing. To sum I didn't count her, because I have no fucking idea that her parent were aussie. She could be the first major Hollywood Star. I used to hate her, because she was famous 4 being married to a Hollywood Star. An ambitious red hair prima donna. Now I respect her a little more, because looks like someone sane, between dozens of narcissitic feminféminazi Hollywood Star.
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Post by Good God on Jun 24, 2019 20:10:11 GMT
She's behind both the Australians. Winslet is a great actress, but both the Aussies are capable of much more. I'm also a big proponent of stage acting, which Winslet has never done at a professional level. Kidman is a two time Olivier Award nominee and Blanchett a Tony nominee. Both can be fairly considered great stage actors. I'm sorry, man, but by "Pup Scrud's Theory of Dick/Vag-measuring by Oscar nominations" Kate Winslet beats Nicole Kidman quite comfortably. After all, 7 > 5 (despite Winslet being 8 years younger), so we're long past debate on this, by your own absurd reasoning.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 24, 2019 20:37:55 GMT
She's behind both the Australians. Winslet is a great actress, but both the Aussies are capable of much more. I'm also a big proponent of stage acting, which Winslet has never done at a professional level. Kidman is a two time Olivier Award nominee and Blanchett a Tony nominee. Both can be fairly considered great stage actors. I'm sorry, man, but by "Pup Scrud's Theory of Dick/Vag-measuring by Oscar nominations" Kate Winslet beats Nicole Kidman quite comfortably. After all, 7 > 5 (despite Winslet being 8 years younger), so we're long past debate on this, by your own absurd reasoning. Yeah this is part of the issue where sometimes we argue with pupdurcs on here - Oscar nominations matter ...........until they don't (and of course they don't in the way he often uses them as proof of something, they are not that at all).............polls don't matter until they do. I just posted that I was surprised Phoenix didn't win the "Who Should Scorsese Work With?" poll which he replied "polls here don't matter - small base size" - I agree with that sure - obviously that's fine - but you can't also post this a few days prior - as he did - " Jesus, this thread is a massacre Kidman has more than twice the votes/mentions of the 2nd place actress."I'd just wish he'd say I like Kidman because ..........and let other people vote the way they want.........Sometimes he just argues both sides of every argument when it comes to his faves to try to direct the poll. It really bums me out because we never really talk about acting really as a result of doing that thing..........
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Post by MsMovieStar on Jun 24, 2019 21:40:37 GMT
Oh honeys, I think we all know the answer is Blanchett: By my careful calculations, by the time I turn 21, Blannie will have amassed 7 Oscars and 13 nominations...
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Post by pupdurcs on Jun 24, 2019 23:01:34 GMT
Viced Can you please do something about the poster Good God? Give him a warning or just suspend/ban him for consistent trolling if he continues. I've taken the steps you advised me to block him, which he knows, but he's still quoting my posts and running around talking about me in various threads, and I'm seeing it in other posters posts that I haven't blocked. He just an obsessed idiot who is doing this to gain my attention and disrupt my enjoyment of this forum despite being blocked. Thank you.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jun 24, 2019 23:43:20 GMT
I'm sorry, man, but by "Pup Scrud's Theory of Dick/Vag-measuring by Oscar nominations" Kate Winslet beats Nicole Kidman quite comfortably. After all, 7 > 5 (despite Winslet being 8 years younger), so we're long past debate on this, by your own absurd reasoning. Yeah this is part of the issue where sometimes we argue with pupdurcs on here - Oscar nominations matter ...........until they don't (and of course they don't in the way he often uses them as proof of something, they are not that at all).............polls don't matter until they do. I just posted that I was surprised Phoenix didn't win the "Who Should Scorsese Work With?" poll which he replied "polls here don't matter - small base size" - I agree with that sure - obviously that's fine - but you can't also post this a few days prior - as he did - " Jesus, this thread is a massacre Kidman has more than twice the votes/mentions of the 2nd place actress."I'd just wish he'd say I like Kidman because ..........and let other people vote the way they want.........Sometimes he just argues both sides of every argument when it comes to his faves to try to direct the poll. It really bums me out because we never really talk about acting really as a result of doing that thing.......... We have our disagreements, but you are co-signing a literal troll and a stalker. I hope with this knowledge, you maybe think twice about endorsing this behaviour in future. He shouldnt even be able to quote my posts as he's been blocked. Yet he's currently doing it on multiple threads. Please don't encourage this individual. Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 23:46:09 GMT
She's behind both the Australians. Winslet is a great actress, but both the Aussies are capable of much more. I'm also a big proponent of stage acting, which Winslet has never done at a professional level. Kidman is a two time Olivier Award nominee and Blanchett a Tony nominee. Both can be fairly considered great stage actors. I'm sorry, man, but by "Pup Scrud's Theory of Dick/Vag-measuring by Oscar nominations" Kate Winslet beats Nicole Kidman quite comfortably. After all, 7 > 5 (despite Winslet being 8 years younger), so we're long past debate on this, by your own absurd reasoning. Kidman only has four nominations.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 25, 2019 0:39:30 GMT
pupdurcs - I understand what you are saying and feel for your situation, however I would also remind you that you have repeatedly taken a side of a poster on this board who I identify as a troll and a stalker - and you are well aware of that - someone who posted something knowingly dishonest about me, and rather cruelly and casually blew off a very serious illness in my family, and I don't run complaining about it to anyone or to him or to you. ...........and that's as it should be. Now, I realize there may be differences here so I will keep your post in mind going forward - and hopefully the situation resolves itself for you all and we can all get along and discuss movies. I don't have anyone blocked so that situation is a bit foreign to me I must say but, noted.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jun 25, 2019 0:47:55 GMT
pupdurcs - I understand what you are saying and feel for your situation, however I would also remind you that you have repeatedly taken a side of a poster on this board who I identify as a troll and a stalker - and you are well aware of that - someone who posted something knowingly dishonest about me, and rather cruelly and casually blew off a very serious illness in my family, and I don't run complaining about it to anyone or to him or too you. ...........and that's as it should be. Now, I realize there may be differences here so I will keep your post in mind going forward - and hopefully the situation resolves itself for you all and we can all get along and discuss movies. I don't have anyone blocked so that situation is a bit foreign to me I must say but, noted. Honestly, if you block someone and they continue to quote and engage with you, there is no grey area. They are a troll and a stalker. Off the internet it's the type of behaviour the requires restraining orders, and it's troubling to see. You were beefing with fionasiob about various things and called him a troll, but I and many others just saw two guys at odds who engaged each other with equal willingness. It's a grey area. If you took the step of blocking him (which you were well within your rights to do), and he still decided to repeatedly engage you....then he has zero leg to stand on. That's what the block option exists for (I gave my single blockee warning before I did it, but every single interaction was antagonistic, so ultimately I was left with no choice). But it never went that far. So yes, very different situations.
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Post by Good God on Jun 25, 2019 1:16:53 GMT
Viced Can you please do something about the poster Good God? Give him a warning or just suspend/ban him for consistent trolling if he continues. I've taken the steps you advised me to block him, which he knows, but he's still quoting my posts and running around talking about me in various threads, and I'm seeing it in other posters posts that I haven't blocked. He just an obsessed idiot who is doing this to gain my attention and disrupt my enjoyment of this forum despite being blocked. LOL, what's this fascist nonsense? When you're posting on a public forum, you don't get to decide who responds to you and who doesn't. If you have a problem with people responding to your posts on a public forum, don't make posts on a public forum. Just because you don't like what I have to say and block my messages doesn't mean I don't get to respond to your posts, which are public. No message board works that way, because that's just stupid. What's next, you're going to block everybody with dissenting opinions and whine to the admins when people disagree with you? Or are you just mad that I'm exposing your posts for the hypocritical nonsense they are?
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