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Post by tastytomatoes on May 11, 2019 22:41:50 GMT
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Post by DeepArcher on May 11, 2019 22:45:10 GMT
Ronan and Debicki are a league above the rest, I'd say. Closely followed by Stewart, Robbie, and theeen I guess Steinfeld to round out the top five. Certainly a lot of potential among these actresses but a lot of them only have one or two notable performances to their names so far, so it's hard to make too many definitive judgements.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 11, 2019 22:53:35 GMT
Pretty terrific group of ladies here but Saoirse is head and shoulders above the rest. For my second pick I went with K-Stew who has yet to wow me but she's a consistently strong player and there's greatness in her future. Elle Fanning and J-Law are also really strong.
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Post by notacrook on May 11, 2019 23:22:38 GMT
Top 5:
1) Saoirse Ronan (by FAR)
2) Jennifer Lawrence
3) Margot Robbie
4) Elizabeth Debicki
5) Kristen Stewart
Loads of great talent here though.
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Post by countjohn on May 12, 2019 4:35:19 GMT
SAOIRSE SAOIRSE SAOIRSE
None of these other people are on her level. Threw a vote for Debicki for my second choice on projection, even though Robbie and Lawrence have had better careers to far.
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Post by urbanpatrician on May 12, 2019 4:45:51 GMT
The Lawrence hate is deep on this board. She shouldn't be near the top compared to the other list of actresses born in the 80s, but she should absolutely run away with at least 2nd place here.
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Post by cherry68 on May 12, 2019 5:20:55 GMT
Robbie should be in the 80s list. Even if she didn't lie about her age, 1990 belongs to 80s decade.
Same with Watson, Stewart, Lawrence, Debicki.
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Post by pupdurcs on May 12, 2019 5:36:16 GMT
Ronan clearly stands out. But so does Debicki, particularly for the maturity of her screen presence.
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Post by bob-coppola on May 12, 2019 5:48:36 GMT
Lawrence deserves the #1, she's by far the most talented actress in her age range, and considering we're talking about crazy-talented people like Ronan, Taylor-Joy, Debicki and Robbie, that says a lot. She excels in smaller, intimate dramas like Winter's Bone, carried this same sensibility to a huge franchise like The Hunger Games (her Katniss is by far the best acting in the whole YA genre), but can easily be goofy, comedic and loud. And, with mother!, it was fascinating to see her use her screen magnetism to propel such a surreal narrative. X-Men and Passengers aside, Lawrence has never delivered a false note in my book.
Then, there's Ronan, who's proving her range and likability with every passing year. Stewart, Robbie and Debicki come next.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 12, 2019 6:12:57 GMT
I see a bunch of people mentioning Debicki. What am I missing there? Has she done anything noteworthy other than Widows? I've only seen her in that and Great Gatsby.  |
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Post by bob-coppola on May 12, 2019 6:26:25 GMT
I see a bunch of people mentioning Debicki. What am I missing there? Has she done anything noteworthy other than Widows? I've only seen her in that and Great Gatsby. She was on Laura Dern's The Tale as well. It's frightening how, in the same year, she delivered two widely different performances - in Widows, a clueless but golden-hearted young woman who could be in her early 20s, and in The Tale, a chilly, manipulative pedophile who's in her mid-to-late 30s. |
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Post by themoviesinner on May 12, 2019 6:39:49 GMT
From the actresses listed, I would say that Jennifer Lawrence is the best by quite a margin. Kristen Stewart and Saoirse Ronan have also given some noteworthy performances, but nothing I'd call spectacular. Another young actress worth mentioning is Suzu Hirose. She was absolutely fantastic in all four films I've seen her in.
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Post by mhynson27 on May 12, 2019 6:49:37 GMT
Robbie should be in the 80s list. Even if she didn't lie about her age, 1990 belongs to 80s decade. Same with Watson, Stewart, Lawrence, Debicki. Uhmmm, what??? |
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Post by pupdurcs on May 12, 2019 9:37:41 GMT
Lawrence deserves the #1, she's by far the most talented actress in her age range, and considering we're talking about crazy-talented people like Ronan, Taylor-Joy, Debicki and Robbie, that says a lot. She excels in smaller, intimate dramas like Winter's Bone, carried this same sensibility to a huge franchise like The Hunger Games (her Katniss is by far the best acting in the whole YA genre), but can easily be goofy, comedic and loud. And, with mother!, it was fascinating to see her use her screen magnetism to propel such a surreal narrative. X-Men and Passengers aside, Lawrence has never delivered a false note in my book. Then, there's Ronan, who's proving her range and likability with every passing year. Stewart, Robbie and Debicki come next. I don't think Lawrence is the most talented at all. She's had the most opportunity, but I think it's been a very mixed bag. She's been repeatedly miscast (particularly in some of the David O'Russell films, playing women who are clearly supposed to be older). Watching her pretend to be some mature woman in American Hustle, when she still obviously reads as 22 years old or whatever is jarring. You just wonder why isn't another actress more suitable playing this role? It's playing dress-up. So there have been quite a few false notes in her work, even though she was often rewarded for it, in the industry's bizarre attempt to pass her off as some cross between Julia Roberts and Meryl Streep. I don't find the young adult stuff in Hunger Games to be that impressive a challenge, and think many of the names on that poll could have done the role justice to the same degree(ie Hailee Steinfeld). Her Oscar winning role in Silver Linings Playbook didn't have much degree of difficulty either. It was basically a Rom-Com role. Her multiple performances across the X-Men franchise have been poor enough that people consider the former swimsuit model to have previously played Mystique to be vastly superior in the role. Lawrence is a good actress, with a fair amount of charisma in certain roles. But she was never anywhere as good or gifted as the industry wanted her to be. She basically had the same hype machine behind her as Gwyneth Paltrow did in the mid to late 90's. Paltrow was another attractive young actress shoehorned as the "chosen one" and given the most opportunities for a few years, but it soon became apparent that while good, some of her peer group were significantly better. |
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Post by ingmarhepburn on May 12, 2019 9:55:09 GMT
Ronan and Woodley for me.
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Post by pupdurcs on May 12, 2019 10:19:41 GMT
Also, the lack of non-white actresses is pretty notable. I guess it's not easy to break out as an actress of color at a younger age.
Still, the likes of Letitia Wright and Kiki Layne seem to have promising futures. Jessica Henwick is very good, though she's only had a breakthrough on TV. Lana Conor seems to have made a big enough name in Netflix rom-coms to be headed for bigger things as well.
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Post by pacinoyes on May 12, 2019 10:40:12 GMT
Lawrence deserves the #1, she's by far the most talented actress in her age range, and considering we're talking about crazy-talented people like Ronan, Taylor-Joy, Debicki and Robbie, that says a lot. She excels in smaller, intimate dramas like Winter's Bone, carried this same sensibility to a huge franchise like The Hunger Games (her Katniss is by far the best acting in the whole YA genre), but can easily be goofy, comedic and loud. And, with mother!, it was fascinating to see her use her screen magnetism to propel such a surreal narrative. X-Men and Passengers aside, Lawrence has never delivered a false note in my book. Then, there's Ronan, who's proving her range and likability with every passing year. Stewart, Robbie and Debicki come next. I don't think Lawrence is the most talented at all. She's had the most opportunity, but I think it's been a very mixed bag. She's been repeatedly miscast (particularly in some of the David O'Russell films, playing women who are clearly supposed to be older). Watching her pretend to be some mature woman in American Hustle, when she still obviously reads as 22 years old or whatever is jarring. You just wonder why isn't another actress more suitable playing this role? It's playing dress-up. So there have been quite a few false notes in her work, even though she was often rewarded for it, in the industry's bizarre attempt to pass her off as some cross between Julia Roberts and Meryl Streep. I don't find the young adult stuff in Hunger Games to be that impressive a challenge, and think many of the names on that poll could have done the role justice to the same degree(ie Hailee Steinfeld). Her Oscar winning role in Silver Linings Playbook didn't have much degree of difficulty either. It was basically a Rom-Com role. Her multiple performances across the X-Men franchise have been poor enough that people consider the former swimsuit model to have previously played Mystique to be vastly superior in the role. Lawrence is a good actress, with a fair amount of charisma in certain roles. But she was never anywhere as good or gifted as the industry wanted her to be. She basically had the same hype machine behind her as Gwyneth Paltrow did in the mid to late 90's. Paltrow was another attractive young actress shoehorned as the "chosen one" and given the most opportunities for a few years, but it soon became apparent that while good, some of her peer group were significantly better. Jennifer Lawrence in many ways is the real chosen one because of the type of actress she is. She's far closer to a Debra Winger and that is the "natural actress" vs. the "trained actress". Her performance in SLP was nothing like a Rom-Com role to me, rather that's what it would have been if anybody else played it - her playing it was like a lightning bolt on the screen - not exaggerating there, a genuinely great Best of Decade contending performance to me that owns that film with far more real life pain than you ever see in that genre too - and when it was couched with Winter's Bone you think to yourself "Wait, who IS this girl again?" The problem is when she is asked to do something else - ie play something non-instinctual. A role that calls for some sort of discipline and technique is at odds with what she actually knows how to do and what she's been trained to do too - sometimes she pulled that off anyway and her instinct got her through it like Joy..............sometimes not........she's in a very bad spot where what she does isn't what Hollywood wants or makes and what she does if she tries to force it well..........it makes people end up like Debra Winger.......... marginalized and forced out.......and then romanticized as special many years later.......Winger was special.........so is Lawrence but not in a way that speaks necessarily to careers without major pitfalls. |
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Post by TerryMontana on May 12, 2019 15:43:09 GMT
Amazing List!!!! So much talent!!
I honestly don't know who to choose here.
Lawrence, Robbie, Ronan, Debicki, Stewart, Delevingne, Watson, Moretz...
All of them, really!!!
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Post by TerryMontana on May 12, 2019 15:43:34 GMT
Robbie should be in the 80s list. Even if she didn't lie about her age, 1990 belongs to 80s decade. Same with Watson, Stewart, Lawrence, Debicki. That's correct!! |
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Post by stephen on May 12, 2019 15:44:47 GMT
In terms of sheer raw talent, it's Lawrence.
In terms of versatility and technical skill, it's Ronan.
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Post by stabcaesar on May 12, 2019 17:48:38 GMT
It's Saoirse Ronan, bar none.
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Post by cherry68 on May 12, 2019 18:16:07 GMT
Robbie should be in the 80s list. Even if she didn't lie about her age, 1990 belongs to 80s decade. Same with Watson, Stewart, Lawrence, Debicki. Uhmmm, what??? That's what science says. For instance, 2000 is the last year of the last millennium, not the first of the 3rd one. |
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Post by morton on May 12, 2019 19:19:44 GMT
That's what science says. For instance, 2000 is the last year of the last millennium, not the first of the 3rd one. |
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Post by DeepArcher on May 12, 2019 19:20:39 GMT
I see a bunch of people mentioning Debicki. What am I missing there? Has she done anything noteworthy other than Widows? I've only seen her in that and Great Gatsby. Well, I value quality over quantity considerably. I've seen Debicki in much less stuff than, say, Lawrence, but I'll take her '18 double-header of The Tale and Widows over Lawrence's filmography any day ... and I don't even dislike Lawrence, per se (and I'm kinda unfairly picking on her as an example). Debicki is phenomenal in those two roles, and is truly next-level in Widows especially, beyond just "showing potential," she has a one-of-a-kind screen presence and showcases more versatility in the few roles I've seen of hers than lesser talents do in their careers. She might not have the same resume as some of the other ladies listed, sure, but she might be the one who excites me the most. |
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Post by iheartamyadams on May 13, 2019 13:38:25 GMT
Lawrence deserves the #1, she's by far the most talented actress in her age range, and considering we're talking about crazy-talented people like Ronan, Taylor-Joy, Debicki and Robbie, that says a lot. She excels in smaller, intimate dramas like Winter's Bone, carried this same sensibility to a huge franchise like The Hunger Games (her Katniss is by far the best acting in the whole YA genre), but can easily be goofy, comedic and loud. And, with mother!, it was fascinating to see her use her screen magnetism to propel such a surreal narrative. X-Men and Passengers aside, Lawrence has never delivered a false note in my book. Then, there's Ronan, who's proving her range and likability with every passing year. Stewart, Robbie and Debicki come next. I don't think Lawrence is the most talented at all. She's had the most opportunity, but I think it's been a very mixed bag. She's been repeatedly miscast (particularly in some of the David O'Russell films, playing women who are clearly supposed to be older). Watching her pretend to be some mature woman in American Hustle, when she still obviously reads as 22 years old or whatever is jarring. You just wonder why isn't another actress more suitable playing this role? It's playing dress-up. So there have been quite a few false notes in her work, even though she was often rewarded for it, in the industry's bizarre attempt to pass her off as some cross between Julia Roberts and Meryl Streep. I don't find the young adult stuff in Hunger Games to be that impressive a challenge, and think many of the names on that poll could have done the role justice to the same degree(ie Hailee Steinfeld). Her Oscar winning role in Silver Linings Playbook didn't have much degree of difficulty either. It was basically a Rom-Com role. Her multiple performances across the X-Men franchise have been poor enough that people consider the former swimsuit model to have previously played Mystique to be vastly superior in the role. Lawrence is a good actress, with a fair amount of charisma in certain roles. But she was never anywhere as good or gifted as the industry wanted her to be. She basically had the same hype machine behind her as Gwyneth Paltrow did in the mid to late 90's. Paltrow was another attractive young actress shoehorned as the "chosen one" and given the most opportunities for a few years, but it soon became apparent that while good, some of her peer group were significantly better. She was grossly miscast and somehow made it work in the eyes of critics, audiences, ect which I think is a true test of someone’s ability. She very nearly won consecutive Oscars and won the most critic awards for Hustle. She also received standout reviews of the cast. An opinion like yours is the exception, not the consensus on that perf. Also, reducing her SLP work to a “rom com” performance lol. I could say the same about Zellwegger in BJD, Roberts in Pretty Woman and would be doing a major disservice to amazing star turns. That’s a very basic and lazy criticism that people accept only because the genre usually sucks. |
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