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Post by TerryMontana on May 14, 2019 10:32:04 GMT
but Godfather III could really be improved by cutting some odd script inserts Yeah. Sofia!!!
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Post by pacinoyes on May 14, 2019 10:37:25 GMT
but Godfather III could really be improved by cutting some odd script inserts Yeah. Sofia!!! Not really. See my post about how he added a scene with her and made it better - so that doesn't really fit. I still say people who say that are just repeating a mean-spirited lie - I think once I literally timed her amount of screentime and it was like 12 minutes. In those 12 minutes she comes across as Michael Corleone's clueless daughter..........and she's playing .........Michael Corleone's clueless daughter. She's not great but she's more or less adequate ..........the problems with that film are with her father.........the great things in that film (and there are great things in it) are with her father too.
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Post by TerryMontana on May 14, 2019 10:40:03 GMT
But even the middle has some astonishing scenes - Michael's confession........ Many of the negative critics for part III were exactly about this very scene. They didn't like that Michael was able to regret for the killings he had ordered. Imo it was a very powerful scene. Especially having in mind what Michael was in the begining of part I: a shy young man who never wanted to get involved in his father's bussiness.
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Post by pacinoyes on May 14, 2019 10:46:23 GMT
But even the middle has some astonishing scenes - Michael's confession........ Many of the negative critics for part III were exactly about this very scene. They didn't like that Michael was able to regret for the killings he had ordered. Imo it was a very powerful scene. Especially having in mind what Michael was in the begining of part I: a shy young man who never wanted to get involved in his father's bussiness. Yeah it is also one of the best written/and acted scenes too - it makes perfect narrative sense. Part of the issue with that film is so much time had gone by everybody thought they "knew" Michael better than anyone which is absurd of course - that's why when people say stuff like "that's not my Michael" I'm always like - well he was never your Michael anyway .
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 11:17:41 GMT
Speaking about Coppola Im wondering if to watch his Gardens of Stone?
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Post by pacinoyes on May 14, 2019 14:26:01 GMT
Well we don't agree exactly on Sofia but I'm not going to waste a lot of energy defending a small performance that I think is adequate at best and that I know plenty of people loathe so it's not that big of a deal after all really. But getting back to the original point if Coppola is re-cutting the film then the dialog - some of it clearly f*cked around with during post-production - can easily be fixed .........and if you want an example of how Francis (and Puzo I guess) messed her performance up with bad and unnecessary dialog look at the scene of the family picture before Michael dances with her (a great scene in the intro): In the original film she says to Garcia "Nice leather" (I believe)........in the director's cut she says "Nice Jacket" (dubbed) - I may have that reversed .......Garcia responds "Stop it". Nothing should be said there......at all or at least don't have Garcia respond (!) and don't dub in the dialog (!).......that's exactly the stuff I'm talking about and it happens with worse dialog later - the best moments in the film are quiet moments but you can tell somebody pressured him to fill up spaces in the movie with words. We can disagree on Sofia (and we do) but nobody who hates her is going to be persuaded by a new cut anyway - he should stand by his film and if he wants to tighten up this (great and flawed) third film the best way to do it is to fix what he did wrong not worry about her - tighten its technical weaknesses and allow the successful but held back parts to work on their own like Donal Donnelly etc. imo. He didn't care then because he knew he had a terrific ending and the movie is an excuse for that ending ...........but you can improve the ride along the way
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Post by Mattsby on May 15, 2019 0:03:48 GMT
Speaking about Coppola Im wondering if to watch his Gardens of Stone? It's one of my least fav from Coppola, and I like almost all his movies - I think it's pretty plainly and lazily directed, with a dull script and performances are nothing special except for James Earl Jones, but I mean.... Coppola lost his oldest son Giancarlo during the very first week of filming.... And so it's kind of touching how soberly the movie looks at the inevitable deaths of the young recruits thru the Caan character who can't figure or find a way to mentor these green recruits in a way to "save them" etc.
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Post by Mattsby on Oct 8, 2019 16:23:47 GMT
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Post by TerryMontana on Oct 8, 2019 16:50:46 GMT
FYI Pacino is repped by CAA Pacino re-teaming with FFC!!! That would be a dream come true. I recently read somewhere Coppola couldn't find no one to finance Megalopolis. Why not talk to his old friend Scorsese in order to persuade... Netflix...
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Post by futuretrunks on Oct 8, 2019 17:53:52 GMT
I want to believe in this movie, but I don't understand why he's having so much trouble getting financing. If it's truly as ambitious and interesting as his 70s work conceptually, shouldn't there be A-listers like Denzel, Leo, Hanks, etc. lining up? Of course you're not going to get cut a big paycheck from the studios with Jude Law and Shia, unless you're Nolan or James Cameron! I really don't want this to be another Rules Don't Apply.
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Post by Mattsby on Oct 8, 2019 20:22:19 GMT
FYI Pacino is repped by CAA Pacino re-teaming with FFC!!! That would be a dream come true. I recently read somewhere Coppola couldn't find no one to finance Megalopolis. Why not talk to his old friend Scorsese in order to persuade... Netflix... De Niro is also at CAA! So is Depp (cough), and someone I'd prefer here over Jude Law, Fassbender! Shia is at CAA, Jude Law isn't. I'm only bringing it up bc I assume they're gonna package this with their own, or at least want to until Coppola disagrees. And like The Irishman, it's an intimidating budget, somewhat experimental, and a lengthy ambitious epic - so buyers probably until now felt Coppola's pitch was too much a risk, either indefinite feeling or unrealizable. I think Netflix could and should pick this up.... I HOPE, DAMMIT!
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Post by Mattsby on Aug 31, 2021 17:35:00 GMT
OMFG
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Post by DanQuixote on Aug 31, 2021 17:35:08 GMT
Let’s fucking goooooooo.
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Post by franklin on Aug 31, 2021 18:00:52 GMT
Goodbye Shia LaBeouf and Jude Law, looool.
Great cast, aside frow a few exceptions, Jon Voight?? Ewwww. But I recognize that he can be a great/even terrific actor (Coming Home and Ray Donovan, even Anaconda).
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Post by stephen on Aug 31, 2021 18:01:49 GMT
All I care about is whether he's back with Vittorio.
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Post by JangoB on Aug 31, 2021 18:25:33 GMT
All I care about is whether he's back with Vittorio. Oh that'd be wonderful. I know he's done his last few films with Mihai Malaimare Jr. but it's been a while since he directed anything and it'd be wonderful if he and Storaro collaborated again.
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Post by stephen on Aug 31, 2021 18:28:31 GMT
All I care about is whether he's back with Vittorio. Oh that'd be wonderful. I know he's done his last few films with Mihai Malaimare Jr. but it's been a while since he directed anything and it'd be wonderful if he and Storaro collaborated again. Malaimare is excellent and really does feel like the heir apparent to Storaro, but Vittorio is still in the game and why not reform the partnership that elicited the best film in either man's career?
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Post by JangoB on Aug 31, 2021 18:37:12 GMT
Oh that'd be wonderful. I know he's done his last few films with Mihai Malaimare Jr. but it's been a while since he directed anything and it'd be wonderful if he and Storaro collaborated again. Malaimare is excellent and really does feel like the heir apparent to Storaro, but Vittorio is still in the game and why not reform the partnership that elicited the best film in either man's career? Precisely. This project is definitely a big deal for Coppola so it should be no holds barred in every department including the choice of people behind the scenes.
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Post by Mattsby on Aug 31, 2021 21:32:11 GMT
We haven't had an update for like two years so this is exciting as hell. I was just looking thru some of Coppola's Live Cinema book and then that Scorsese vs Coppola thread - which has been haunting me for days - had me looking again into his movies and stuff, and then THIS announcement. Pfeiffer and Blanchett ?? Jimmy Caan ?? This cast will be todie4 no matter how it shakes out...... Remember when Tetro was gonna star Matt Dillon and Bardem? I assume some names will change - hey, Bardem instead of Isaac maybe? I like Bobby Cannavale somewhere in here and of course DePac somewhere? Cage? At any rate.... Over a year before filming will be maddening. With rehearsals and the shoot, the in-camera-favored maestro, and what'll probably be a 4- hour movie - it'll be a mountainous endeavor. Let's go. Have we posted this--script review from 2011, off some version of the script. It seems daring all over, altho he's probably rewrote most of it. Zendaya could be playing the pop star or colead daughter? scriptshadow.blogspot.com/2011/01/megalopolis.html
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Post by Mattsby on Aug 31, 2021 23:41:13 GMT
We missed this - Oscar Isaac is lined up to play Coppola in the next month or two, Barry Levinson's Francis and The Godfather (the project is reportedly Coppola-approved). I wonder if their meetings for this and that coincided...
Also, good time for this announcement, bc Isaac will be all over the press the next few months btwn Card Counter, Scenes for a Marriage, Dune, etc.... He can talk Coppola .
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Post by ibbi on Sept 1, 2021 11:39:47 GMT
Still refuse to believe until I see.
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Post by wilcinema on Jan 24, 2022 14:48:31 GMT
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Post by stephen on Jan 24, 2022 17:09:20 GMT
Must've been a good year at the vineyards.
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