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Post by Viced on Mar 28, 2019 18:06:17 GMT
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Post by wonky on Mar 28, 2019 18:09:53 GMT
Is Ethan okay? Has anybody seen him?
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Post by DanQuixote on Mar 28, 2019 18:15:15 GMT
What... What... WHAT?
I'm there lol
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Post by stephen on Mar 28, 2019 18:16:32 GMT
Ho. Lee. Shit.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 28, 2019 18:17:00 GMT
That is major and and odd........Washington can kill Macbeth - and only a few Americans in his age range would try it so good for him of course (best existing film version is McKellen/Dench imo along with Polanski's very good take) but I don't see McDormand at all and not opposite him. I love McDormand but she's a female TC crown winner with very limited great work and it's all work in a pretty narrow strand too.
..............and the Coens are the great directors of their era by far but seemingly not suited for a straight Billy Shakes adaptation at all - the leading man outpaces the surrounding talented group here in this material, for now at least. Very interesting at least.
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Post by Lubezki on Mar 28, 2019 18:17:26 GMT
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Post by TheAlwaysClassy on Mar 28, 2019 18:18:46 GMT
What about Ethan????
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 28, 2019 18:27:36 GMT
Uh oh, have they Gallagher'd.
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Post by DeepArcher on Mar 28, 2019 18:36:47 GMT
So many questions. Why is the still comparatively-small A24 distributing a film by one of the world's leading auteurs and starring one of the biggest stars in Hollywood? Why isn't Ethan involved? Has his career been tarnished now that people confuse his name for the guy behind Holmes & Watson? Will this be a straight adaptation or an alternative take à la O Brother, Where Art Thou??
Such confusing news. For now, an updated list of the literature that has received a feature-length adaptation by at least one Coen Brother: Homer, Shakespeare, Cormac McCarthy.
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Post by DeepArcher on Mar 28, 2019 18:37:46 GMT
Is Ethan okay? Has anybody seen him? lilibet's mom has. Can we get in touch with her? We need to figure this out.
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Post by LaraQ on Mar 28, 2019 18:38:30 GMT
Fassbender's version of Macbeth was only 4 years ago.
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Post by fiosnasiob on Mar 28, 2019 18:40:59 GMT
Funny, this morning I was watching Denzel presenting and delivering the Oscar for Best Picture to Joel, Ethan and Scott Rudin for NCFOM.
Anyway, fingers crossed for this to happens. Denzel and Frances on screen doing Shakespeare, damn !
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 28, 2019 18:43:26 GMT
"if I have to sit through another Macbeth adaptation, dear god let it be the Coens"
...is what I say every night before going to sleep
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Post by sirchuck23 on Mar 28, 2019 18:44:39 GMT
Wow! This is great news..Denzel with working with one of The Coen Brothers at least and Frances in a Shakespeare adaptation no less. Have a feeling it'll have a O Brother Where Art Thou feel to it and not just a straight adaptation. Count me in for this though. Looks like Denzel will have a busy two years ahead with this, Little Things, and directing Journal for Jordan.
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 28, 2019 19:03:08 GMT
Bloody hell....guess Denzel isn't fucking around anymore. A Coen Brother...Shakespeare...McDormand fresh off her second Oscar....
Unless something goes very wrong, the Academy should eat this up. Could be Denzel's third Oscar. At the least, it looks like he's going to be racking up the nomination count to get past Olivier, then reach Nicholson.
Funny thing is, with Rudin producing, this seems like a dry run for Denzel's King Lear on Broadway in a few years.
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 28, 2019 19:09:00 GMT
Fassbender's version of Macbeth was only 4 years ago. No disrespect to Fassebender, but he is not Denzel, either as a movie star or in terms of his stature as an actor. With Joel Coen and Frances McDormand aboard, it should become an event in a way Fassbender"s version couldn't be (with a director few could name as well).
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 28, 2019 19:14:22 GMT
Why'd DDL have to quit? It's have been fun watching him and Denzel go head to head in more Oscar seasons for supremacy in their 60's. And while he never quite mastered Shakespeare on stage, I guess one of the few things left for an actor of DDL's particular taste would be to do a major Shakespeare on film.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 28, 2019 19:16:41 GMT
Bloody hell....guess Denzel isn't fucking around anymore. A Coen Brother...Shakespeare...McDormand fresh off her second Oscar.... Unless something goes very wrong, the Academy should eat this up. Could be Denzel's third Oscar. At the least, it looks like he's going to be racking up the nomination count to get past Olivier, then reach Nicholson.Funny thing is, with Rudin producing, this seems like a dry run for Denzel's King Lear on Broadway in a few years. I don't think so for a win, I mean an American hasn't even been nominated for Shakespeare since..........Brando 60 years ago (I may be wrong?) Like I'd be stunned with a win and stunned even with a nod and Macbeth isn't the role for that as much too because it's a role that is very inward - ie its not Hamlet which draws the eye as much....... I said he'd be a great Macbeth potentially it isn't that, it's just the American bias is all and the Shakespeare bias (although Brits kept getting nodded). Now I guess the flipside of that is maybe there's a change in the air which would be nice. You have seen this in some ways in general so maybe - McKellan and his never ending definitive Lear, Hopkins Lear, Jackson's Lear, Kline's Lear, Langella's Lear in recent years - I'm leaving out a lot etc...........coming soon (allegedly) Pacino's filmed Lear........I'm just glad someone isn't playing F'n Lear here..........
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Post by stephen on Mar 28, 2019 19:17:08 GMT
Why'd DDL have to quit? It's have been fun watching him and Denzel go head to head in more Oscar seasons for supremacy in their 60's. And while he never quite mastered Shakespeare on stage, I guess one of the few things left for an actor of DDL's particular taste would be to do a major Shakespeare on film. Maybe in twenty years, we'll see PTA come to DDL and say, "Fuck it -- wanna do Lear?" And Day-Lewis will rise like a phoenix, with Joaquin as his Fool, and that fourth Oscar will be anointed unto him beneath the songs of angels.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Mar 28, 2019 19:20:41 GMT
Bloody hell....guess Denzel isn't fucking around anymore. A Coen Brother...Shakespeare...McDormand fresh off her second Oscar.... Unless something goes very wrong, the Academy should eat this up. Could be Denzel's third Oscar. At the least, it looks like he's going to be racking up the nomination count to get past Olivier, then reach Nicholson. Funny thing is, with Rudin producing, this seems like a dry run for Denzel's King Lear on Broadway in a few years. I always felt McDormand and Denzel would work one day on a film together, with both of them being in the same generation and the most acclaimed American actor and actress of their generation (unless you put Streep in McDormand's generation) but I thought it would be something away from The Coens (like the Little Things project for example..along those lines) but I didn't see this coming. Just couldn't see Denzel ever having an opportunity to work with The Coens. Like you said this could be huge, Oscar-caliber across the board, and I don't see Joel Coen doing a straight up adaptation. From the articles I read its from an "original script" of his, so it could be his vision of the story set in a different time. Could be a dark comedy out of this. I'm excited..I mean Denzel working with Joel Coen!?!
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Post by pupdurcs on Mar 28, 2019 19:27:58 GMT
Bloody hell....guess Denzel isn't fucking around anymore. A Coen Brother...Shakespeare...McDormand fresh off her second Oscar.... Unless something goes very wrong, the Academy should eat this up. Could be Denzel's third Oscar. At the least, it looks like he's going to be racking up the nomination count to get past Olivier, then reach Nicholson.Funny thing is, with Rudin producing, this seems like a dry run for Denzel's King Lear on Broadway in a few years. I don't think so for a win, I mean an American hasn't even been nominated for Shakespeare since..........Brando 60 years ago (I may be wrong?) Like I'd be stunned with a win and stunned even with a nod and Macbeth isn't the role for because it's a role that is very inward - ie its not Hamlet which draws the eye as much....... I said he'd be a great Macbeth potentially it isn't that, it's just the American bias is all and the Shakespeare bias (although Brits kept getting nodded). Now I guess the flipside of that is maybe there's a change in the air which would be nice. You have seen this in some ways in general so maybe - McKellan and his never ending definitive Lear, Hopkins Lear, Jackson's Lear, Kline's Lear, Langella's Lear in recent years - I'm leaving out a lot etc...........coming soon (allegedly) Pacino's filmed Lear........I'm just glad someone isn't playing F'n Lear here.......... I think the reality is that even with 2 Oscars, a lot of people within the Academy and his peers feel Denzel is underewarded. I give him at least 5 wins, and that's me being conservative. If the opportunity arises to give him a 3rd, I don't think there will be much resistance. Denzel definitely feels like someone who can overcome both American bias and Shakespeare bias. Not saying he will, but I think he can. The "importance" of the role, the fact that he doesn't do much classical type roles on film, also helps him. It'll seem different and fresh to those who haven't seen him do Shakespeare on stage or in his one lone Shakespeare ensemble film nearly 30 years ago. Also, this being the Coens, I doubt we'll see a traditional version. Which is probably a good thing for the Academy.
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Post by JangoB on Mar 28, 2019 19:39:04 GMT
O brother, where art thou?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 19:39:19 GMT
Fingers crossed for Ethan directing a coinciding Shakespeare production (Lear starring Bridges?)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 19:42:19 GMT
Can't see McDormand here at all.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 28, 2019 19:42:55 GMT
pupdurcs - Possible. The project for now seems off to me and like I said in my earlier post - it seems off from McDormand and the director rather than him. Someone suggested that this would be an odd adaptation - possibly comic and if Coen could pull that off that's really something - because Macbeth is a somber piece and doesn't seem to lend itself to that - but of course maybe I'm not seeing it the way Coen does. In some ways, I talked about something like this with the older British and actors trying to carve out their legacy as they get older - ie McKellan specifically has very consciously presented himself as THE actor in his age range with his Lear(s), his big 2019 movie coming, the relative cool reception by comparison of Hopkins Lear, the "Playing the Part" documentary, the way he "talks" about acting - he sort of late in life, in a way, arguably has separated himself from his peers and this year him and Hopkins BOTH have baity roles. In America you don't have that thing quite as much or in the same exact way as the Brits but Washington here would be engaging in that kind of actor separation - because there are literally only a handful of American guys who could or would play any Shakespeare lead at all much less in his age range (ie he tilts a bit older for Macbeth which is fine - you maybe could see Gyllenhaal try it but who really "wants" that?) much less in a film .......much less a big film. At the very least, it will be GREAT for my beloved "Best Actor Across All Mediums" thread
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