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Post by Sharbs on Mar 25, 2019 17:43:34 GMT
You know the drill, add borderline performances you want clarified also original vs adapted for screenplays/scores
Friday, 3/29 at 9am cst is the deadline to get your requests in
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Post by Martin Stett on Mar 25, 2019 18:36:42 GMT
Lina Leandersson in Let the Right One In
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 25, 2019 18:44:23 GMT
Brendan Gleeson - In Bruges
Mikael Persbrandt - Everlasting Moments
Javier Bardem, Scarlet Johansson, Rebecca Hall - Vicky Cristina Barcelona
Kate Winslet - The Reader
Cate Blanchett - The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Frances McDormand - Burn After Reading
Johanna Wokalek & Martina Gedeck - The Baader Meinhof Complex
Heath Ledger - The Dark Knight
Michael Pitt - Funny Games
Robert Downey Jr., Tropic Thunder
Andreus Lust & Ursula Strauss - Revanche
James Franco - Pineapple Express
Misty Upham - Frozen River
Vinessa Shaw & Gwyneth Paltrow - Two Lovers
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Post by dadsburgers on Mar 26, 2019 1:12:42 GMT
Philip Seymour Hoffman, Doubt
Dev Patel, Slumdog Millionaire
Queen Latifah, The Secret Life of Bees
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Post by Sharbs on Mar 29, 2019 22:34:53 GMT
Compiled list of borderline performances, please vote by Friday, 4/5
Martina Gedeck, The Baader Meinhof Complex
Johanna Wokalek, The Baader Meinhof Complex
Russell Crowe, Body of Lies
Vera Farmiga, The Boy in the Striped Pajamas
Frances McDormand, Burn After Reading
Cate Blanchett, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Heath Ledger, The Dark Knight
Philip Seymour Hoffman, Doubt
Mikael Persbrandt, Everlasting Moments
Michael Sheen, Frost/Nixon
Misty Upham, Frozen River
Michael Pitt, Funny Games
Brendan Gleeson, In Bruges
Lina Leandersson, Let the Right One In
James Franco, Pineapple Express
Kate Winslet, The Reader
Andreus Lust, Revanche
Ursula Strauss, Revanche
Queen Latifah, The Secret Life of Bees
Dev Patel, Slumdog Millionaire
Robert Downey Jr., Tropic Thunder
Vinessa Shaw,,- Two Lovers
Gwyneth Paltrow, Two Lovers
Javier Bardem, Vicky Cristina Barcelona
Rebecca Hall, Vicky Cristina Barcelona
Scarlet Johansson, Vicky Cristina Barcelona
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Post by Martin Stett on Mar 30, 2019 2:00:24 GMT
LEADING
Michael Sheen, Frost/Nixon
Misty Upham, Frozen River
Brendan Gleeson, In Bruges
Lina Leandersson, Let the Right One In
Kate Winslet, The Reader
Dev Patel, Slumdog Millionaire
SUPPORTING
Frances McDormand, Burn After Reading
Cate Blanchett, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Heath Ledger, The Dark Knight
Mikael Persbrandt, Everlasting Moments
Robert Downey Jr., Tropic Thunder
I left out stuff that I couldn't remember well or had absolutely no desire to vote for.
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Post by stephen on Mar 30, 2019 2:30:44 GMT
LEAD: Cate Blanchett, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button Brendan Gleeson, In Bruges Michael Sheen, Frost/Nixon Kate Winslet, The Reader Lina Leandersson, Let the Right One In Dev Patel, Slumdog Millionaire James Franco, Pineapple Express Rebecca Hall, Vicky Cristina Barcelona Scarlet Johansson, Vicky Cristina Barcelona SUPPORTING: The others. |
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Post by Sharbs on Apr 2, 2019 22:25:43 GMT
Vera Farmiga, The Boy in the Striped Pajamas // SUPPORTING
Frances McDormand, Burn After Reading // SUPPORTING
Cate Blanchett, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button // LEAD
Heath Ledger, The Dark Knight // SUPPORTING
Philip Seymour Hoffman, Doubt // SUPPORTING
Michael Sheen, Frost/Nixon // LEAD (what????)
Michael Pitt, Funny Games // SUPPORTING
Brendan Gleeson, In Bruges // LEAD (what????)
Lina Leandersson, Let the Right One In // LEAD (what????)
James Franco, Pineapple Express // LEAD
Kate Winslet, The Reader // LEAD (what???)
Dev Patel, Slumdog Millionaire // LEAD
Robert Downey Jr., Tropic Thunder // SUPPORTING
Vinessa Shaw,, Two Lovers // SUPPORTING (what????)
Gwyneth Paltrow, Two Lovers // SUPPORTING
Javier Bardem, Vicky Cristina Barcelona // LEAD
Rebecca Hall, Vicky Cristina Barcelona // LEAD
Scarlet Johansson, Vicky Cristina Barcelona // LEAD
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 2, 2019 22:36:12 GMT
LEAD
Martina Gedeck, The Baader Meinhof Complex
Johanna Wokalek, The Baader Meinhof Complex
Frances McDormand, Burn After Reading
Cate Blanchett, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Mikael Persbrandt, Everlasting Moments
Michael Sheen, Frost/Nixon
Brendan Gleeson, In Bruges
Lina Leandersson, Let the Right One In
Kate Winslet, The Reader
Dev Patel, Slumdog Millionaire
Javier Bardem, Vicky Cristina Barcelona
Rebecca Hall, Vicky Cristina Barcelona
Scarlet Johansson, Vicky Cristina Barcelona
SUPPORTING
Heath Ledger, The Dark Knight
Philip Seymour Hoffman, Doubt
Misty Upham, Frozen River
Michael Pitt, Funny Games
James Franco, Pineapple Express
Andreus Lust, Revanche
Ursula Strauss, Revanche
Robert Downey Jr., Tropic Thunder
Vinessa Shaw,,- Two Lovers
Gwyneth Paltrow, Two Lovers
IT'S BEEN FOREVER AND I DON'T REALLY REMEMBER AND I HAVE NO INTEREST IN WATCHING THIS AGAIN BUT I THINK...SUPPORTING?
Vera Farmiga, The Boy in the Striped Pajamas
UNSEEN
Russell Crowe, Body of Lies
Queen Latifah, The Secret Life of Bees
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Post by finniussnrub on Apr 3, 2019 1:56:54 GMT
Also may I raise the issue whether or not Milk should be considered original? If you watch The Life And Times of Harvey Milk it is obvious they lifted heavily from the documentary, to the point they give it a special thanks as one of the first things in the credit. The idea that Dustin Lance Black didn't "adapt" from the documentary is a little hard to believe considering how closely it follows the doc, and how much it lifts from it directly. Lead:Frances McDormand, Burn After Reading Philip Seymour Hoffman, Doubt Mikael Persbrandt, Everlasting Moments Cate Blanchett, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button Michael Sheen, Frost/Nixon Brendan Gleeson, In Bruges Lina Leandersson, Let the Right One In James Franco, Pineapple Express Dev Patel, Slumdog Millionaire Javier Bardem, Vicky Cristina Barcelona Rebecca Hall, Vicky Cristina Barcelona Supporting:Martina Gedeck, The Baader Meinhof Complex Johanna Wokalek, The Baader Meinhof Complex Vera Farmiga, The Boy in the Striped Pajamas Heath Ledger, The Dark Knight Misty Upham, Frozen River Michael Pitt, Funny Games Kate Winslet, The Reader Andreus Lust, Revanche Ursula Strauss, Revanche Robert Downey Jr., Tropic Thunder Vinessa Shaw, Two Lovers Gwyneth Paltrow, Two Lovers Scarlet Johansson, Vicky Cristina Barcelona Russell Crowe, Body of Lies
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Post by Martin Stett on Apr 3, 2019 2:03:49 GMT
Also may I raise the issue whether or not Milk should be considered original? If you watch The Life And Times of Harvey Milk it is obvious they lifted heavily from the documentary, to the point they give it a special thanks as one of the first things in the credit. The idea that Dustin Lance Black didn't "adapt" from the documentary is a little hard to believe considering how closely it follows the doc, and how much it lifts from it directly. I watched the movie yesterday, and I was wondering the same. I haven't seen the doc and can't vote on that, though. |
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Post by JangoB on Apr 3, 2019 10:01:59 GMT
LEAD
Frances McDormand, Burn After Reading
Cate Blanchett, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Michael Sheen, Frost/Nixon
Lina Leandersson, Let the Right One In
James Franco, Pineapple Express
Kate Winslet, The Reader
Dev Patel, Slumdog Millionaire
Javier Bardem, Vicky Cristina Barcelona
Rebecca Hall, Vicky Cristina Barcelona
SUPPORTING
Vera Farmiga, The Boy in the Striped Pajamas
Heath Ledger, The Dark Knight
Philip Seymour Hoffman, Doubt
Misty Upham, Frozen River
Michael Pitt, Funny Games
Brendan Gleeson, In Bruges
Robert Downey Jr., Tropic Thunder
Vinessa Shaw,,- Two Lovers
Gwyneth Paltrow, Two Lovers
Scarlet Johansson, Vicky Cristina Barcelona
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Post by JangoB on Apr 3, 2019 10:09:57 GMT
Also may I raise the issue whether or not Milk should be considered original? If you watch The Life And Times of Harvey Milk it is obvious they lifted heavily from the documentary, to the point they give it a special thanks as one of the first things in the credit. The idea that Dustin Lance Black didn't "adapt" from the documentary is a little hard to believe considering how closely it follows the doc, and how much it lifts from it directly. But again, isn't this whole adapted/original thing just a technicality, a formal distinction? If it is then I don't think special cases should be made just based on whether something seems like a ripoff. If the credits don't say it's adapted from anything and if they themselves pushed it in original, then I don't see a reason to change that. And in this case it feels weird to say that it's lifted from a documentary. I mean, it's a doc that chronicles a life of a real person so maybe the film wasn't ripping the documentary off, maybe it was just following that person's life too. Yeah, the doc is given thanks in the credits but unless we get some definitive proof that Dustin Lance Black sat down and adapted from it, I don't think we should consider this an adapted script. Had it said 'Based on the documentary...' I'd agree with you but it doesn't. It's based on a life really. |
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Post by finniussnrub on Apr 3, 2019 20:55:11 GMT
Also may I raise the issue whether or not Milk should be considered original? If you watch The Life And Times of Harvey Milk it is obvious they lifted heavily from the documentary, to the point they give it a special thanks as one of the first things in the credit. The idea that Dustin Lance Black didn't "adapt" from the documentary is a little hard to believe considering how closely it follows the doc, and how much it lifts from it directly. But again, isn't this whole adapted/original thing just a technicality, a formal distinction? If it is then I don't think special cases should be made just based on whether something seems like a ripoff. If the credits don't say it's adapted from anything and if they themselves pushed it in original, then I don't see a reason to change that. And in this case it feels weird to say that it's lifted from a documentary. I mean, it's a doc that chronicles a life of a real person so maybe the film wasn't ripping the documentary off, maybe it was just following that person's life too. Yeah, the doc is given thanks in the credits but unless we get some definitive proof that Dustin Lance Black sat down and adapted from it, I don't think we should consider this an adapted script. Had it said 'Based on the documentary...' I'd agree with you but it doesn't. It's based on a life really. Well the thing is the semi-dishonesty coming from campaigns, or filmmakers, is common in order to place a film in a certain category. This is an issue where I don't think you can trust the filmmakers. Moonlight was placed original at first, but was eventually moved to adapted. I believe Loving also had to be moved into adapted, for consideration, when it was recognized how much it took from a documentary on the subject. Milk acknowledges the documentary in the credits and I think if more scrutiny had been placed on Black's screenplay it probably would've been forced into adapted (where it would've lost to Slumdog).
If we just trusted the filmmakers then Fistful of Dollars needs to be looked at as an original screenplay, as Leone didn't recognize it was based on anything until he was sued over it.
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Post by JangoB on Apr 3, 2019 21:19:02 GMT
But again, isn't this whole adapted/original thing just a technicality, a formal distinction? If it is then I don't think special cases should be made just based on whether something seems like a ripoff. If the credits don't say it's adapted from anything and if they themselves pushed it in original, then I don't see a reason to change that. And in this case it feels weird to say that it's lifted from a documentary. I mean, it's a doc that chronicles a life of a real person so maybe the film wasn't ripping the documentary off, maybe it was just following that person's life too. Yeah, the doc is given thanks in the credits but unless we get some definitive proof that Dustin Lance Black sat down and adapted from it, I don't think we should consider this an adapted script. Had it said 'Based on the documentary...' I'd agree with you but it doesn't. It's based on a life really. Well the thing is the semi-dishonesty coming from campaigns, or filmmakers, is common in order to place a film in a certain category. This is an issue where I don't think you can trust the filmmakers. Moonlight was placed original at first, but was eventually moved to adapted. I believe Loving also had to be moved into adapted, for consideration, when it was recognized how much it took from a documentary on the subject. Milk acknowledges the documentary in the credits and I think if more scrutiny had been placed on Black's screenplay it probably would've been forced into adapted (where it would've lost to Slumdog).
If we just trusted the filmmakers then Fistful of Dollars needs to be looked at as an original screenplay, as Leone didn't recognize it was based on anything until he was sued over it.
I feel ya man, I really do. I dunno, I personally just tend not to get into this issue too deeply because it'd just make me go nuts to think about every screenplay's placement in such a way, I'd goddamn question every movie  Which is why I just tend to believe the credits, unless it's a special case like "Moonlight" or something when it literally was an adaptation of a play. Again, with something like "Milk" it's a bit tough for me to agree with you because I consider it based on a life rather than a doc. |
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Post by dadsburgers on Apr 7, 2019 1:39:24 GMT
Vera Farmiga, The Boy in the Striped Pajamas- LEAD
Frances McDormand, Burn After Reading- LEAD
Cate Blanchett, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button- SUPPORTING
Heath Ledger, The Dark Knight- SUPPORTING
Philip Seymour Hoffman, Doubt- LEAD
Michael Sheen, Frost/Nixon- LEAD
Michael Pitt, Funny Games- SUPPORTING
Brendan Gleeson, In Bruges- LEAD
Lina Leandersson, Let the Right One In- LEAD
James Franco, Pineapple Express- LEAD
Kate Winslet, The Reader- SUPPORTING
Queen Latifah, The Secret Life of Bees- LEAD
Dev Patel, Slumdog Millionaire- LEAD
Robert Downey Jr., Tropic Thunder- SUPPORTING
Javier Bardem, Vicky Cristina Barcelona- LEAD
Rebecca Hall, Vicky Cristina Barcelona- LEAD
Scarlet Johansson, Vicky Cristina Barcelona- LEAD
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Post by Sharbs on Apr 8, 2019 14:57:38 GMT
LEAD
Frances McDormand, Burn After Reading (5-3)
Cate Blanchett, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (6-2)
Mikael Persbrandt, Everlasting Moments (2-1)
Michael Sheen, Frost/Nixon (8-0)
Brendan Gleeson, In Bruges (7-1)
Lina Leandersson, Let the Right One In (7-0)
James Franco, Pineapple Express (6-1)
Kate Winslet, The Reader (6-2)
Queen Latifah, The Secret Life of Bees (1-0)
Dev Patel, Slumdog Millionaire (8-0)
Javier Bardem, Vicky Cristina Barcelona (6-1)
Rebecca Hall, Vicky Cristina Barcelona (7-0)
Scarlet Johansson, Vicky Cristina Barcelona (5-2)
SUPPORTING
Martina Gedeck, The Baader Meinhof Complex (1-3)
Johanna Wokalek, The Baader Meinhof Complex (1-3)
Russell Crowe, Body of Lies (0-2)
Vera Farmiga, The Boy in the Striped Pajamas (1-6)
Heath Ledger, The Dark Knight (0-8)
Philip Seymour Hoffman, Doubt (2-5)
Misty Upham, Frozen River (1-5)
Michael Pitt, Funny Games (1-6)
Andreus Lust, Revanche (0-3)
Ursula Strauss, Revanche (0-3)
Robert Downey Jr., Tropic Thunder (0-8)
Vinessa Shaw, Two Lovers (0-5)
Gwyneth Paltrow, Two Lovers (0-5)
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