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Post by Mattsby on Mar 24, 2019 17:58:46 GMT
Terrific opening scene - the busy colorful visuals, editing, conveying POV (feeling "behind" and alienated and curious), and especially the sound design. The next 30min or so are great too, lotta details, creepy score, a felt family unit and starts of psychological disorder. At this point it's better than any of Get Out imo. And then Peele runs out of good ideas. He has a controlled set-up but nothing really clever or eerie to add after. This would've worked better if they kept it domestic, close, psychological - bc the movie just doesn't deliver on the broader development when they bring in the global epidemic of sorts in the news I think then Peele tries to overcompensate in his execution for a lack of much going on that is 1) remotely believable or 2) scary. Ultimately so-so and predictable. My audience was audibly calling out "the twist" and generally didn't seem to like the movie. Idea: bring in the twist earlier, nix the other clones (maybe bring up as a twist later on...or not), make Red's arrival more personal and vengeful, have them one by one assume 'take over' each family role where once this safety net is breached they have to question each other So all in all, I think I prefer Get Out, which despite being overrated has the better perfs and plays more cleverly to the audience.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Mar 24, 2019 18:30:36 GMT
Y’all are being too harsh on a horror flick released in March. I thought it was enjoyable as hell and the performances were great across the board. Don’t disagree with most that Peele should have skipped the big speech from Red and kept things more ambiguous. Didn’t mind the final twist though.
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Post by quetee on Mar 24, 2019 18:32:40 GMT
I think there is more going on in this movie then oh, I can guess the twist. There is a lot of social commentary in regards to the class system.
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Post by Mattsby on Mar 25, 2019 0:09:25 GMT
One more thing...... The Right Stuff VHS is clearly visibly featured in both this and Captain Marvel. No other '80s movie you'd wanna champion??
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Post by morton on Mar 25, 2019 0:51:53 GMT
One more thing...... The Right Stuff VHS is clearly visibly featured in both this and Captain Marvel. No other '80s movie you'd wanna champion?? I didn't notice The Right Stuff VHS, but I did see the C.H.U.D one. I also read that there's also The Goonies one too which ties in with "it's our time down here" message.
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Post by Mattsby on Mar 25, 2019 1:13:14 GMT
One more thing...... The Right Stuff VHS is clearly visibly featured in both this and Captain Marvel. No other '80s movie you'd wanna champion?? I didn't notice The Right Stuff VHS, but I did see the C.H.U.D one. I also read that there's also The Goonies one too which ties in with "it's our time down here" message. It was to the right of the TV in that same shot - one of those double-VHS packages so I noticed it first.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 2:28:01 GMT
I agree with the general criticisms (exposition, etc.) but I really liked this. Overall it was a lot messier and didn't flow as well as Get Out, but had higher highs imo. Lupita Nyong'o will likely make my end of the year line-ups, but the rest of the cast was all pretty exceptional as well (I agree with DeepArcher, Moss did amazing with her limited screentime and was probably the 2nd MVP). Give this a strong 7 or maybe an 8. Very excited to see what Peele does next.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Mar 25, 2019 12:44:33 GMT
I think there is more going on in this movie then oh, I can guess the twist. There is a lot of social commentary in regards to the class system. Yeah, and the twist is definitely in reference to the old adage that people’s success is tied to their environment and opportunities and we are all victims of circumstance.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 25, 2019 18:41:05 GMT
~6+ish/10
The film has echoes in it of many films where the limited talented director takes on waaaaaaaaaaaay too much as a writer (especially) and it just overwhelms him and what he’s showing.
This evokes The Prestige to me in a way (not kidding) but without Nolan’s artistic rigor (and not as good) or Unbreakable (which is better for far longer than this before it implodes) where you can literally spot where it goes wrong and you start writing a better movie in your head. Because it’s so messy it has some real thrills in it early on – more creepy and more jolts than Get Out - but Get Out had less room to spin wildly out of control like this does too.
Because it loses control it also creates room for a great performance (which Get Out also didn’t have), where Nyong'o seizes this film and goes all the way with it – she’s a memorable character played with great energy, sadness and fear – you genuinely feel for her.
It does entertain for a while but the social aspects of this film are a hilariously wild mistake (and that’s all Get Out got right) and sadly they are also anti-horror - like a dumbed down Polanski if Rosemary’s Baby had a pro-life vs. pro-choice subtext at the expense of everything else or if The Tenant was about something like renter’s rights (the horror, the horror). That is where the director then forgets he's a director at all - he conflates plot points with logic, social “awareness” with film meaning and those are all laid out as narrative equivalents rather than narrative components – so that now he’s gone so far off the rails he can just take his audience anywhere he wants and he does ..........and he and they and the bunny rabbits all go off a cliff together.
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Mar 25, 2019 23:08:13 GMT
Y’all are being too harsh on a horror flick released in March. He won an Oscar for his previous screenplay. I'd like to think he's raised the bar for the standard standard "March" horror film.
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Mar 25, 2019 23:15:05 GMT
I'll echo what everyone else is saying. Loved the first two acts but hated the ending. Peele tries to pack in too many ideas for social commentary and it makes the narrative extremely messy. I almost wish he didn't reaveal as much at the end because it brings up more questions/potential plot holes.
Still entertaining. Great visuals and music. Excited to see what Peele does next.
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Post by morton on Mar 26, 2019 0:54:39 GMT
I didn't notice The Right Stuff VHS, but I did see the C.H.U.D one. I also read that there's also The Goonies one too which ties in with "it's our time down here" message. It was to the right of the TV in that same shot - one of those double-VHS packages so I noticed it first. I forgot that The Man With Two Brains was the other VHS tape that was in that shot.
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Post by jakesully on Mar 27, 2019 22:25:13 GMT
I can totally understand a lot of the criticisms regarding the "twist" in this and the 3rd act but I was highly entertained by this one from start to finish so its all good in my book. Lupita was flat out superb in this (all her movements and mannerisms were great).
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Post by Pavan on Apr 3, 2019 15:43:10 GMT
I was really enjoying the home invasion part of the movie but when it goes big it lost some steam and i didn't care for the 'tethered' part. Is it about duality and classism? The last nightmarish sequence was shot excellently. The final twist was good but it should've came a bit earlier. I guess Peele was going for shock value than anything. Still a worthy follow up to Get Out.
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Post by themoviesinner on Apr 4, 2019 5:09:17 GMT
As a thriller/horror film this straight out sucks. But, as some kind of satire/critical commentary on horror films this somehow works. Either way, I just couldn't figure out what it was aiming for. It's definitely jumbled and aimless, but somewhat entertaining nonetheless. 5/10
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Apr 14, 2019 2:46:06 GMT
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Post by AKenjiB on Apr 19, 2019 0:20:05 GMT
I thought it was...good and I think Jordan Peele has proven that Get Out wasn’t a fluke but it does feel like a step down.
There’s a lot to admire about its ambitions and it’s nice that Jordan Peele isn’t simply repeating Get Out. The first act does a great job at building dread and eeriness, though the film is not without its flaws unfortunately, mainly regarding story elements being confusing and a bit too much exposition near the end. Perhaps the weakest aspect was related to its humor. Get Out had plenty of humor too but it was mostly relegated to the character of Rod who wasn’t directly related to the horror aspects. Here, Jordan Peele attempts to incorporate humor into the horror, so seeing characters making jokes after people have died makes the tension feel a bit undercut.
Lupita N’yongo is genuinely excellent and the film is arguably worth watching just for her alone. Everyone else is mostly solid though nothing spectacular. There’s a strange language-free element to most of the doppelgangers, lots of grunts and screams which gave me Bone Tomahawk vibes, which I did appreciate. There’s some creepy imagery too.
Although its ambitions don’t always seem to pay off, I mostly had a fun time watching this. I wasn’t ever really bored (some people said the 2nd act was boring) and I cared about the characters, even if some of the screenplay felt lacking.
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Post by JangoB on May 28, 2019 21:15:38 GMT
I'm one of the few who feels that this is a step up from Get Out in pretty much every way. Peele certainly shows stronger directorial skills here both in terms of the visuals and in terms of his work with suspense/scares. And the less hackneyed social commentary, the better, at least in my book. As a pure thrill-ride the film worked quite well for me although I wish Peele didn't feel the need to suddenly turn on the exposition drop in the end. He should've went for "The Birds" approach with no explanations for anything. It's clear to me that Peele has some genuinely good pitch ideas in his mind but has a hard time coming up with the reveals behind the crazy concepts - the Coagula stuff in Get Out was what kinda ruined that movie for me while here the reveal was also kinda silly but at the same time so quick and insignificant that it should've just been thrown away altogether. The twist was also something I got pretty early on (and I'm not bragging here as I usually am not that perceptive) but that didn't bother me because thinking about it and its meaning for the characters was in itself a rewarding experience.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Jun 27, 2019 19:11:29 GMT
I had a dream this won for Best Original Score. But it was credited to Randy Newman.
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Post by getclutch on Jul 6, 2019 2:36:27 GMT
The characters were genuine and the plot stayed pretty consistent. Which is important in a cerebral horror movie.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Jul 8, 2019 14:58:30 GMT
It was scary in a fun way (especially the part where they are at my girl Elisabeth Moss's house) and had great acting - Lupita really shows off her chops. But I didn't like the plot at all. Get Out was less scary, yet had a story that was an instant pop culture smash. This film's story was extremely ambitious for Jordan Peele, but ultimately, I didn't care for it. The tethered clones underground behaving like versions of humans in the outside world and the predictable ending with the girls. Come on. Even if you look at the tethered metaphorically, it's still not enough for me to like the plot.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Aug 7, 2019 19:21:27 GMT
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Post by stinkybritches on Aug 7, 2019 19:54:39 GMT
probably the worst 2019 film I’ve seen to this point. nonsense all the way around.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Aug 11, 2019 22:38:25 GMT
Us’ third act >>> Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’s
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Post by Christ_Ian_Bale on Aug 11, 2019 23:34:18 GMT
Us’ third act >>> Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’s Since we're comparing things with nothing in common: The Godfather Part II's third act >>> Ted's
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